JackClark - THE Apple fanboy.

It's amusing that he mentions the 'hard work of Apple' and the fact that it does updates.. and that they are first.
LOL?

How many Linux distributions have been updating apps and the OS for years?
Windows Update?

Because Apple did it they think it's a first when in reality they are virtually dead last.

As far as I know (correct me if I am wrong), Apple is indeed the first one to release an app store on a personal computer. And it's a pretty good idea I would say. I have plenty of small and single purpose apps on my computer (mp3tag, video players, cheat engine, fraps, etc.) that can potentially become apps. I say give them credit where it is due.

Remember, we are supposed to be BETTER than them, which includes NOT acting all high and mighty. We accept all truths even if it hurts us to admit it. We do NOT live in denial.

snapper.fishes said:

As far as I know (correct me if I am wrong), Apple is indeed the first one to release an app store on a personal computer. And it's a pretty good idea I would say. I have plenty of small and single purpose apps on my computer (mp3tag, video players, cheat engine, fraps, etc.) that can potentially become apps. I say give them credit where it is due.

Remember, we are supposed to be BETTER than them, which includes NOT acting all high and mighty. We accept all truths even if it hurts us to admit it. We do NOT live in denial.

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You are in fact, incorrect:
Welcome to Steam

Steam store has been online since circa 2004 or so. And, they already had "BitLocker" (Or something similar), where if you bought a game, it was yours, and it could be installed on 1000 computers. Could only be used on one at a time, however.

I wish ALL software makers licensed this way.

PSkeptic said:

You are in fact, incorrect:
Welcome to Steam

Steam store has been online since circa 2004 or so. And, they already had "BitLocker" (Or something similar), where if you bought a game, it was yours, and it could be installed on 1000 computers. Could only be used on one at a time, however.

I wish ALL software makers licensed this way.

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I know what Steam is. Been using it ever since it came out. I pre-ordered HL2. Back then it was horrible.... (Steam, not the game.)

Can you call those apps though? Isn't there a difference between programs and apps? Plus Steam only sell games, so it's quite different from the Apple app store, but I agree the fundamental idea might be the same.

Edit: Just checked wikipedia. A program is a sequence of instructions. Which means an application would be a compilation of programs... bloody computer jargons. Good thing I dropped computer science after first year. Anyway, that means you are correct. Apple app store is in fact not the first online application store, but probably the first successful attempt at a multi-purpose app store.

snapper.fishes said:

I know what Steam is. Been using it ever since it came out. I pre-ordered HL2. Back then it was horrible.... (Steam, not the game.)

Can you call those apps though? Isn't there a difference between programs and apps? Plus Steam only sell games, so it's quite different from the Apple app store, but I agree the fundamental idea might be the same.

Edit: Just checked wikipedia. A program is a sequence of instructions. Which means an application would be a compilation of programs... bloody computer jargons. Good thing I dropped computer science after first year. Anyway, that means you are correct. Apple app store is in fact not the first online application store, but probably the first successful attempt at a multi-purpose app store.

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True, you can only buy games on Steam. However, the fundamental principle is the same: A Portal (haha liked the pun?) used to purchase software, which can then be tracked across computers.

Yes, Steam sucked when it first came out. So did the Google App Market. So did Microsoft's Digital Locker (Which has since closed, but was a pretty cool concept for OS distribution). And, I'm sure Apple's MacStore will such on iteration number 1.

It's hardly "revolutionary" as JackClark on the other forum posits, however.

buy a programme, go into program files, open the file and you'll find the name of it with its file type being an 'Application' with other files in there too. therefore, games are apps

It's simply not new.
Remember lindows?
Complete with a store to buy apps.

They simply did not do it first, and they won't be last.

I'm reminded of the Streisand effect.

Barbara Streisand.

I do agree that it is a good idea, however it was flawed from the getgo. Apparently anyone that knows how to copy and paste can pirate apps to his/her heart's content. I am sure this is going to be patched, but seriously? these flaws are often common from Apple (and I say this having been a huge iPhone fan from launch... I even got one of the new MacBook pro's an an air). They tought how amazingly secure they are and then this? I can't imagine a slip-up like this from any other company. Well, actually SEGA basically did it with the dreamcast, and then promptly decided to get out of hardware completely and let others worry about anti-piracy.

I do plan to closely watch what kinds of Apps gets released though. I am not sure the same kinds of apps as we have on mobile devices would really work on the Mac Appstore. I mean I really don't need/want an IMDB, Wells Fargo, Fart Maker, etc. app on my home computer, and those are the vast majority of apps that the appstore has. Quite frankly, most of the apps that I tend to use on my mobile devices are apps that are basically quicker mobile versions of online websites, and I think this is probably the case for others as well. Where those sorts of apps are convenient on a mobile, I am not so sure that they would be as convenient on a computer. My prediction is that the Mac Appstore is going to become a place to buy games for a couple bucks to pass the time with.

LOL@fanbois.

IIRC, OS/2 Warp had an online app/extension store, circa 1995. The fact that he thinks this is something new is pretty funny. I KNOW Irix (Silicon Graphics OS) had an online store pre-Y2K.

"others will once again have to follow"

Because of this statement, I dislike him...ahh how cockiness annoys me...lol

Bearo said:

Its not just what he says, its the way he says it. This guy is the one being all high n' mighty and is totally deluded. Anything you say will not change his way of thinking. Apple is his god.

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Reminds me of a few Android fans I know There's people on both sides of the table. Best we all just avoid them and enjoy our products.

*huggles Nexus One and iPad*

Oops... didn't see this one posted too :/

snapper.fishes said:

As far as I know (correct me if I am wrong), Apple is indeed the first one to release an app store on a personal computer. And it's a pretty good idea I would say. I have plenty of small and single purpose apps on my computer (mp3tag, video players, cheat engine, fraps, etc.) that can potentially become apps. I say give them credit where it is due.

Remember, we are supposed to be BETTER than them, which includes NOT acting all high and mighty. We accept all truths even if it hurts us to admit it. We do NOT live in denial.

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Ubuntu has had an app catalog on their OS for awhile. Open it up, search for what you want, install, done. Updates are automatic if you so choose or do it manually yourself.

Xoom said:

Reminds me of a few Android fans I know There's people on both sides of the table. Best we all just avoid them and enjoy our products.

*huggles Nexus One and iPad*

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I think it's how arrogant many, not all, of the Apple fanboys are. I know there are some on the Android side, but I don't see as many that are on the scale of the Apple guys.

I'm a grown up i don't need aa Nanny app store

IOWA said:

I'm a grown up i don't need aa Nanny app store

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What?? But how will you know if EA really is a legitimate game manufacturer if someone doesn't tell you? How will you ever get updates? What if someone tries to (I blush as I type this) sell a pornographic application? Or worse, what if they try to sell an innovative application?? The horrors!!!!

What's worst than "Apple fanboy" is "Android fanboy" (or any other fanboy for that matter) who feels the need to go above & beyond to call out "said fanboy".

Fanboy threads seem to never go further than a round robin of finger pointing.

Fanboys have probably existed since the discovery of fire. They find products to infect. They occlude good thinking everywhere. They cause your dog's breath to worsen, your cat to climb walls -

And by then, politeness leaves the room.

/thread

Anyone having a good reason to re-open the thread, please PM me.