[RELEASED] The 4.3 inch "Thunderbolt" aka "Mecha" aka "Incredible HD" from HTC...beyond coming soon!

Kitten Mittens · Feb 1, 2011

2010 ZR1 said:
Why do people complain about paying for 4G even if they don't have it in their area. What if you travel to a 4G area everyday? It's like when you go to mcdonalds and tell them you want a cup for water and fill it with soda.

Well it's different for everybody, some people might not be anywhere near a 4G area and they'd feel a little ripped off having to pay for it. It's like if a cable company were to force you to pay for all the HD channels even if you don't have an HDTV, sure it'll be nice when you get one, but for the time being your paying for service you can't use.

On the other hand, I'm currently living away from home while I'm in college and here I won't be getting LTE, but when I go home to visit my family about once or twice a month and on holidays, I will get LTE. I don't mind if the ThunderBolt will cost the rumored $249 on a 2-year or in my case $329 on a 1-year as long as they keep the LTE charge up front and let me continue paying the same monthly price. Ideally I'd like to continue paying $29 for unlimited 3G and get an extra ~1GB or so for LTE, since I won't always be able to use it. I really hope this is what they plan on doing, if they charge extra for the phone, and bump the monthly price I might reconsider my options.

leehblanc · Feb 1, 2011

I really have no gripe with the price of the phone, when you consider that a 32GB microSD comes installed in the phone. No other phone has that, and a quick search of Google Shopping shows that 16GB cards are between $30-$40 for name brand, and 32GB are between $80-$100, so the price difference over the Droid X or Fascinate ($200 at launch) is justified by the inclusion of the extra space.

As far as LTE, I've heard that it will be $10-$15 more, and I've heard that it will be the same as 3G. Perhaps it will be both. Maybe early adopters/upgraders will get grandfathered in on their all you can eat data, but new subscribers will get tacked with the extra charge, very similar to what Sprint is doing right now.

NightAngel79 · Feb 1, 2011

kitten mittens said:
if they charge extra for the phone, and bump the monthly price i might reconsider my options.

+9999999

Magnus_CA · Feb 1, 2011

Here's an interesting development for all would-be thunderbolt owners:

HTC Inspire 4G hits AT&T on February 13th, does HSPA+ for $99.99 -- Engadget

If this is an At&t branded Thunderbolt for $99 I don't know how big red is going to be able to charge $249. This would actually be a nice counter to VZW picking up the iphone.

ChiTownJim · Feb 1, 2011

Magnus_CA said:
Here's an interesting development for all would-be thunderbolt owners:

HTC Inspire 4G hits AT&T on February 13th, does HSPA+ for $99.99 -- Engadget

If this is an At&t branded Thunderbolt for $99 I don't know how big red is going to be able to charge $249.

Yeah I heard about this . This might be enough for me to try waiting 2 weeks to buy the phone and hoping Verizon lowers the price by then or within price guarentee/return time

gobluejd · Feb 1, 2011

Magnus_CA said:
Here's an interesting development for all would-be thunderbolt owners:

HTC Inspire 4G hits AT&T on February 13th, does HSPA+ for $99.99 -- Engadget

If this is an At&t branded Thunderbolt for $99 I don't know how big red is going to be able to charge $249. This would actually be a nice counter to VZW picking up the iphone.

I'd rather pay a premium to be on VZW then crappy ATT. Also VZW has not officially given a price, have they?

briankeith513 · Feb 1, 2011

Magnus_CA said:
Here's an interesting development for all would-be thunderbolt owners:

HTC Inspire 4G hits AT&T on February 13th, does HSPA+ for $99.99 -- Engadget

If this is an At&t branded Thunderbolt for $99 I don't know how big red is going to be able to charge $249. This would actually be a nice counter to VZW picking up the iphone.

One of the things to keep in mind is, that while very similar, the THunderbolt has a few better specs, including having the LTE, that AT&T is moving towards getting. Does that justify a $150 difference in price, maybe not, but the Thunderbolt would be more expensive based on the few specs differences.

jfoey22 · Feb 1, 2011

briankeith513 said:
One of the things to keep in mind is, that while very similar, the THunderbolt has a few better specs, including having the LTE, that AT&T is moving towards getting. Does that justify a $150 difference in price, maybe not, but the Thunderbolt would be more expensive based on the few specs differences.

Yeah, the Inspire 4G has a 1230mAh battery. Is that what the Tbolt has?

briankeith513 · Feb 1, 2011

jfoey22 said:
Yeah, the Inspire 4G has a 1230mAh battery. Is that what the Tbolt has?

Thunderbolt has a 1400mah battery, a lot more memory, and possibly more RAM, besides having LTE, which is obviously better than HSPA+. And these are just the things that I know of off the top of my head.

Familyguy1 · Feb 1, 2011

NightAngel79 said:
They should let you upgrade a couple months early if that date is your 2 year contract ending, if that date IS the early date they should do it if its within 30 days of your upgrade. Thats how i got my incredible, i called and they changed it in the computer to 'upgrade available'

Nope, 1 year.

ckochinsky125 · Feb 1, 2011

briankeith513 said:
Thunderbolt has a 1400mah battery, a lot more memory, and possibly more RAM, besides having LTE, which is obviously better than HSPA+. And these are just the things that I know of off the top of my head.

And you know LTE is better than HSPA+ how? these forums are getting as bad as people with iphones. People always feel the need to talk up something they want or have

jfoey22 · Feb 1, 2011

ckochinsky125 said:
And you know LTE is better than HSPA+ how? these forums are getting as bad as people with iphones. People always feel the need to talk up something they want or have

I would say LTE is better at this point because of Coverage and that is saying a lot considering LTE has coverage in only 38 markets. What is AT&T's HSPA+ coverage?

ckochinsky125 · Feb 1, 2011

jfoey22 said:
I would say LTE is better at this point because of Coverage and that is saying a lot considering LTE has coverage in only 38 markets. What is AT&T's HSPA+ coverage?

I'm not supporting either I'm just saying if you are going to make a claim that one is better than the other atleast provide some evidence or something.

odnerd · Feb 1, 2011

jfoey22 · Feb 1, 2011

odnerd said:
Didn't AT&T say that 98% of it's 3G customers would see hspa+ with a comparable phone?

I don't know, I was asking the question. Verizon has advertised and marketed LTE whereas I haven't heard much about AT&T's HSPA+ network. I searched quickly on AT&T's site to see try and find a coverage map and couldn't.

dbgoolsby · Feb 1, 2011

Life, politics and the confessions of a Tech addict…

Thunderbolt or Bionic.. Round 1 Fight!!

Black_Man_X's Blog

Specs confirmed on both devices and he even mentions a Feb launch of the Bolt

briankeith513 · Feb 1, 2011

ckochinsky125 said:
And you know LTE is better than HSPA+ how? these forums are getting as bad as people with iphones. People always feel the need to talk up something they want or have

Well, riddle me this? If LTE is not better than HSPA, why would both ATT and Tmobile go to it?

jfoey22 · Feb 1, 2011

briankeith513 said:
Well, riddle me this? If LTE is not better than HSPA, why would both ATT and Tmobile go to it?

Well I think there are several factors that need to be considered when saying "better". LTE is the future, however it isn't widely available. HSPA+ I suspect is more readily available right now. So, if LTE is available to you then I say it is better, if not but you are in an HSPA+ market than that would make since. If you have both options, then LTE would win. The other wild card is T-Mo's HSPA+ network. They are claiming 42Mbps which would trump LTE as it stand now. I am not sure if T-MO's claim is theoretical max or what a person could get today. LTE and LTE2 have much higher theoretical maxes than HSPA+. I would suggest reading this if you have time.

briankeith513 · Feb 1, 2011

jfoey22 said:
Well I think there are several factors that need to be considered when saying "better". LTE is the future, however it isn't widely available. HSPA+ I suspect is more readily available right now. So, if LTE is available to you then I say it is better, if not but you are in an HSPA+ market than that would make since. If you have both options, then LTE would win. The other wild card is T-Mo's HSPA+ network. They are claiming 42Mbps which would trump LTE as it stand now. I am not sure if T-MO's claim is theoretical max or what a person could get today. LTE and LTE2 have much higher theoretical maxes than HSPA+. I would suggest reading this if you have time.

LTE is the future, as you said, and I don't know about "theoretical max", but I find it interesting that as fast as Tmobile claims its speeds can get, it never tells you what your average real world speeds should, as VZW does with LTE. You also then said, "LTE and LTE2 have much higher theoretical maxes than HSPA+.". Sounds like you actually agree with me. Then it's been stated that LTE gives better in-building penetration.

jfoey22 · Feb 1, 2011

briankeith513 said:
LTE is the future, as you said, and I don't know about "theoretical max", but I find it interesting that as fast as Tmobile claims its speeds can get, it never tells you what your average real world speeds should, as VZW does with LTE. You also then said, "LTE and LTE2 have much higher theoretical maxes than HSPA+.". Sounds like you actually agree with me. Then it's been stated that LTE gives better in-building penetration.

I wasn't arguing one way or another. I was just saying "Better" at this date depends on who you talk to and their applicable situation (Coverage Area, Price, Data Plans, etc). To me , clearly, LTE is a superior technology for the future.

digdug1 · Feb 1, 2011

omg!!! i just saw this on droidforums and it is sooo funny and somewhat true lmao!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-ix-8INgD4

dbgoolsby · Feb 2, 2011

Verizon, on Twitter, says we may see Thunderbolt 'sooner than we expected' | Android Central

UBRocked · Feb 2, 2011

digdug1 said:
omg!!! i just saw this on droidforums and it is sooo funny and somewhat true lmao!!

Thanks for posting...It's good but I was really hoping for something a little bit more different than the almost identical video produced below last year. Where is the originality? :rolleyes:

This one does have strong language so listen at your own risk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg

ECFfighter7232 · Feb 2, 2011

UBRocked said:
Thanks for posting...It's good but I was really hoping for something a little bit more different than the almost identical video produced below last year. Where is the originality?

This one does have strong language so listen at your own risk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg

rofl I was looking at your avatar for a solid minute (like playing the "photo-hunt" game at the bars) until I noticed the difference then laughed my ass off! that is great!

gobluejd · Feb 2, 2011

dbgoolsby said:
Verizon, on Twitter, says we may see Thunderbolt 'sooner than we expected' | Android Central

They actually responded to me, which BTW NEVER HAPPENS

VerizonWireless Verizon Wireless
@gobluejd I know, right?! Cool how we did it this time. No further info though.

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