Official Update to 2.3/Gingerbread?

deanshep85 · Feb 8, 2011

Hadron said:
Froyo is not that bad!

haha very good spot..

actually I think microsoft should use that little table when they are creating the next 'best thing' as in the.....how it SHOULD be like...not how it IS like

RedBob62 · Feb 8, 2011

ivoradev said:
Well, this ain't a proper example .... you compare apples with melons ..

At the end, we do not ask them for bigger screen, or new display type or another hw change /going with the car example/ ... we just ask for the present software available, which is nothing different than the usual thing in the computer world.

I fully accept that the world of computing is slightly different from the world of cars. But as SU root pointed out, even on PC operating systems you only get so many upgrades before a whole new suite is released for which you normally have to pay (XP - Vista - 7).

I am happy that I'm getting Android upgrades for free. If they did bring out a new version and then charge for it, I doubt many people would pay for it as it is unlikely to provide a sufficiently large jump forward in functionality to justify the cost of upgrading. My gut feel is that big improvements in the phone will probably more likely be hardware or ap dependent rather than OS (but then I'm in marketing so what do I know about things technical??).

stringent · Feb 9, 2011

Been using Gingerbread for a while now, rooted and have the Ginger Villain ROM installed. So glad I did the root. Be nice to see if HTC improve the Sense for the official 2.3 release. I bet the community modded ROMS will still be better though than anything HTC push out.

SUroot · Feb 9, 2011

I would expect since sense 2.0 is new, that they will overlay this onto 2.3 with minimal tweaks or changes.

Deleted User · Feb 15, 2011

breaking news lol
HTC Desire owners face long wait for Android 2.3 Gingerbread update | Crave | CNET UK

turbohobbit · Feb 16, 2011

But that's hardly surprising, is it? From HTC's point of view, why release an OS upgrade for older phones when you're about to release a new model with the upgrade pre-installed. The DHD and Z may become discounted when the Desire S and Incredible S are released, the Desire almost certainly will be, so why risk losing money by encouraging a) current users to retain their phones instead of upgrade or b) new punters to invest in discounted older models (especially when the older models bear more than a passing resemblance to the new ones)? That's business folks.

Take heart in the fact that a) many of us have rooted so can have Gingerbread today if we want it, and b) this will at least force app producers like CoPilot to ensure that their wares are 2.3-compatable.

partridge · Feb 16, 2011

I'd given up on getting an official upgrade to 2.3 and I can't really see a reason to root, I'm happy with my phone as it is.

Shame that, for all its success (two of my colleagues have only just got theirs) it has been replaced in less than a year.

That said, I'm not overly impressed with the Desire S so hopefully by the time I upgrade toward the end of this year HTC will have something better to move onto, otherwise I'll be looking at the Galaxy S2 or Sony.

EddyOS · Feb 16, 2011

turbohobbit said:
But that's hardly surprising, is it? From HTC's point of view, why release an OS upgrade for older phones when you're about to release a new model with the upgrade pre-installed. The DHD and Z may become discounted when the Desire S and Incredible S are released, the Desire almost certainly will be, so why risk losing money by encouraging a) current users to retain their phones instead of upgrade or b) new punters to invest in discounted older models (especially when the older models bear more than a passing resemblance to the new ones)? That's business folks.

Take heart in the fact that a) many of us have rooted so can have Gingerbread today if we want it, and b) this will at least force app producers like CoPilot to ensure that their wares are 2.3-compatable.

What about those (like me) wanting 2.3/4 AND Sense?? I'm sure we'll see Desire S ports once it's out but I'm hoping for an official update at some point in the next few months

Deleted User · Feb 16, 2011

If you read the link it does say that they WILL update the original desire (at some point).
I dont mind waiting as I cant upgrade until summer 2012 so this update will give my phone a new lease of life just as I'm getting bored of it.

EddyOS · Feb 16, 2011

Ultimately, until I see 2.4 on MY Desire I'll be sceptical that we'll ever get it officially. Better to have a nice surprise then to be let down

Yathushan · Feb 16, 2011

I think I that I am fine with them leaving it at 2.2. As stated earlier no one else is making the effort I don't think. Also, if people want it that badly they could move to roms like oxygen and cyanogen.

matttye · Feb 16, 2011

HTC Desire will get Gingerbread but could be a long wait.

Hadron · Feb 16, 2011

matttye said:
HTC Desire will get Gingerbread but could be a long wait.

Same link was posted 7 posts earlier. :eek:

matttye · Feb 16, 2011

Hadron said:
Same link was posted 7 posts earlier.

I even checked first and didn't see that post!!

Oops

deanshep85 · Feb 16, 2011

EddyOS said:
What about those (like me) wanting 2.3/4 AND Sense?? I'm sure we'll see Desire S ports once it's out but I'm hoping for an official update at some point in the next few months

actually the port is what im waiting for....im hoping the moment the Desire S comes out that a Leedroid version with sense in there comes out...would be nice to see..and it would be pretty complete too...

SUroot · Feb 17, 2011

Does leedroid port? I've never seen that

EddyOS · Feb 17, 2011

I've only ever seen stock-based ROMs

deanshep85 · Feb 17, 2011

SUroot said:
Does leedroid port? I've never seen that

I dont know, most likely not, but given how long we all been waiting for the official update...we may see a Leedroid port...or someone who does one just as clean.

EddyOS · Feb 17, 2011

Reckon robocik might take a look at it and do something - he did the HD/Z port and the MyTouch 4G one

BurnCK · Feb 18, 2011

RedBob62 said:
Am I missing something but I just do not get this idea that there is any obligation to keep devices upgraded with the latest software.

If I buy a car it is because at the point that I make the purchase it represents the offer that best suits my needs or wallet. If it develops a fault I expect the vendor to put it right, and if the manufacturer discovers an issue which might develop in to a probelm I expect them to do a recall and fix it. But if they develop a new model with a better engine I do not expect them to upgrade my car.

Likewise with a phone, I signed up for the Desire because at the time I did so it provided the best solution for my needs. I was happy with the Froyo update because it sorted a few niggles I had, none of which were really a major problem. If they do not offer a Gingerbread upgrade then I will still have a phone that I am more than happy with.

Maybe a better approach for the sake of your peace of mind would be to just be happy if you get an upgrade rather than planning to be unhappy if you don't!!!

Except that we're not asking for a hardware upgrade. If the car manufacturer released a new firmware update for the Engine Managment Software, then you might expect that to be updated....no ??

deanshep85 · Feb 18, 2011

BurnCK said:
Except that we're not asking for a hardware upgrade. If the car manufacturer released a new firmware update for the Engine Managment Software, then you might expect that to be updated....no ??

Actually no...this isn't the same thing really..

This is more akin to computer software....of which we have purchased the hardware and we are 'licenced' as such to use the the appropriate software with it...but as we have not purchased the software seperately there is no agreement in place to update us. We get what is given really...anything else on top is a bonus.

Yes you might come back saying well android is free and not bound by the same thing but I think you'll find from a business an legality standpoint its no different.

Gingerbread is not a fix to this sytsem...its not a bug fix patching some serious complaint...so Google are not obliged to offer it for older systems....end of story.

BurnCK · Feb 18, 2011

deanshep85 said:
Actually no...this isn't the same thing really..

This is more akin to computer software....of which we have purchased the hardware and we are 'licenced' as such to use the the appropriate software with it...but as we have not purchased the software seperately there is no agreement in place to update us. We get what is given really...anything else on top is a bonus.

Yes you might come back saying well android is free and not bound by the same thing but I think you'll find from a business an legality standpoint its no different.

Gingerbread is not a fix to this sytsem...its not a bug fix patching some serious complaint...so Google are not obliged to offer it for older systems....end of story.

I was actually just trying to correct a bad analogy that someone else posted. You're correct in what you're saying, but you'd think that having a level playing field (i.e. Not so many different versions of Android) would be beneficial to Google, Developers and Consumers alike....

NorthernNoel · Feb 18, 2011

SUroot said:
Well ok,

Android 2.1 = XP
Android 2.1.1 = XP SP1

Android 2.2 = Vista
Android 2.2.1 = vista SP1

Android 2.3 = Win 7

So we're getting 1 better than Windows users already, since we went from "XP" to "Vista" for free.

However, with a PC, there will be third party drivers available (or OEM drivers) that will allow you to purchase a new version of windows, install the drivers and all will be ok. Thing is Windows is expensive itself.

If HTC released the drivers for the Desire that work on 2.3, perhaps it would be the same but they dont.

I'd class 2.2 as XP with SP2. SP2 was a fairly big OS upgrade at the time. SP3 is more like 2.3 which means Honeycomb is Vista :eek:

deanshep85 · Feb 18, 2011

BurnCK said:
I was actually just trying to correct a bad analogy that someone else posted. You're correct in what you're saying, but you'd think that having a level playing field (i.e. Not so many different versions of Android) would be beneficial to Google, Developers and Consumers alike....

Not really as I believe dealerships charge for any kind of 'after sale' upgrade/updates....unless it was something to do with the saftey of the car then I doubt it would be free so your example wouldn't work.

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