My next phone Incredible S!

ikadakimas · Feb 15, 2011

I guess the S on the Incredible S stands for 'sorta' :thinking:

terryzx · Feb 15, 2011

It seems to be kinna nice in comparison to the 1st gen....but I'm holding out for that 1.5 Snapdragon and more RAM. Aside from a slightly larger screen and a dual camera which I will seldom use, it just doesn’t sound like much of a PERFORMANCE boost even with a 2nd Gen Snapdragon. By this summer they will have most all with 1.5 Snapdragons and 4.3 screen. I saw where their Windoz phone is 4.3 and 1.5. But I hate Windoz so as soon as they sell to the people who want them, they will add to the other phones. I'm thinking that early 3rd quarter will see some GREAT specs that I can wait for since my 1st gen Dinc is still running great.

dragonsamus · Feb 15, 2011

Is it lte? I saw no mention of it.

This looks nice but I'm passing on it.

pirate943 · Feb 15, 2011

i'm passing. im not up for an upgrade for a year anyway. im 100% my inc can last me that long. i'll be looking for dual core and a giant screen for my next phone.

terryzx · Feb 15, 2011

Also have to have LTE on any upgrade

Raven93 · Feb 15, 2011

Why is not running Gingerbread (2.3), it shows it running 2.2.1 which is still Froyo :thinking:

Medion · Feb 16, 2011

Raven93 said:
Why is not running Gingerbread (2.3), it shows it running 2.2.1 which is still Froyo

HTC is skipping 2.3 in favor of 2.4. Phones that are out now or have been in development for awhile launch with 2.2.x with the possibility of an upgrade to 2.4. Other phones will ship with 2.4 (Desire S, the Facebook phones).

WBMc36 · Feb 16, 2011

I signed a one year agreement for my Inc since I am the type of person that wants the newest best fastest thing out. Honestly I am terribly underwhelmed by the lack of progress in Verizon's android lineup. Its like one step forward two steps back. Motorola's locked bootloaders give me no reason to touch any of their phones. HTC has barely improved the specs on their devices tablets included. Nvidia has quad core processors for phones now so double core is obselete and its not even out yet. 4g is only available in one of the cities in which I reside so the thunderbolt is kind of a flop for me. I never thought in a million years I would be saying this now but the incredible is still the best thing Verizon has to offer android wise and its not changing for awhile as it seems right now.

zerocool79346 · Feb 16, 2011

WBMc36 said:
I signed a one year agreement for my Inc since I am the type of person that wants the newest best fastest thing out. Honestly I am terribly underwhelmed by the lack of progress in Verizon's android lineup. Its like one step forward two steps back. Motorola's locked bootloaders give me no reason to touch any of their phones. HTC has barely improved the specs on their devices tablets included. Nvidia has quad core processors for phones now so double core is obselete and its not even out yet. 4g is only available in one of the cities in which I reside so the thunderbolt is kind of a flop for me. I never thought in a million years I would be saying this now but the incredible is still the best thing Verizon has to offer android wise and its not changing for awhile as it seems right now.

I don't understand this line of thinking. Sure the S is not a quantum leap forward, but it is an improvement in every measurable way (well screen size is subjective). I think we've all just been too spoiled by the rate of change in the Android world. Think of it this way, the S represents a leap in technology much like the 2G to 3G or 3G to 3GS Iphones. In fact I would say its even a bigger leap (ie. 3G to 4G) yet we aren't satisfied like Iphone owners generally are because we're used to seeing insane shifts. The world can't stop turning every time a phone is released, but that seems to be what we want to happen. Its progress, sometimes it comes in waterfalls, sometimes it comes in raindrops.

Right now, with the Inc S, TB, and Bionic dropping, Verizon has an equally competitive line-up with every other carrier out there (sure the Atrix docking is cool, but honestly how many of you would use that more than a few times before it became something to just show off?). That's different because Verizon used to be dominate, but the other carriers have played their catch-up and realized that Android was here to stay so they bought in as whole-heartedly as Big Red did.

euph_22 · Feb 16, 2011

WBMc36 said:
I signed a one year agreement for my Inc since I am the type of person that wants the newest best fastest thing out. Honestly I am terribly underwhelmed by the lack of progress in Verizon's android lineup. Its like one step forward two steps back. Motorola's locked bootloaders give me no reason to touch any of their phones. HTC has barely improved the specs on their devices tablets included. Nvidia has quad core processors for phones now so double core is obselete and its not even out yet. 4g is only available in one of the cities in which I reside so the thunderbolt is kind of a flop for me. I never thought in a million years I would be saying this now but the incredible is still the best thing Verizon has to offer android wise and its not changing for awhile as it seems right now.

There is a 12-24 month lag between when a chip is released and when it rolls out on devices near you. It's not fair to say Quad Core processors are obsolete. Especially since there is nothing that needs the processing power when have right now, let alone what a dual/quad core will bring.

Medion · Feb 16, 2011

WBMc36 said:
Nvidia has quad core processors for phones now so double core is obselete and its not even out yet

Nvidia has only officially announced the Tegra 2, which is dual-core. But, you said that Nvidia has quad-core processors out for phones NOW. I'm not one to call someone a liar.

So, please educate me. Name me ONE phone that is available today that is running an Nvidia quad-core processor. Just one is all I ask.

hrbib21 · Feb 16, 2011

WormDoes said:
This phone has only been announced for Europe and Asia so don't get your hope up

Exactly. I am also willing to bet it wouldn't be on Verizon anyway.

Beatlesfan · Feb 16, 2011

hrbib21 said:
Exactly. I am also willing to bet it wouldn't be on Verizon anyway.

Why wouldn't it be? Verizon has the original incredible, why wouldn't they have the new one?

jj3699 · Feb 16, 2011

Once again I must say HTC and VZW shot themselves in foot when they released the DInc, most phones are barely improving on what we have in the DInc and the little improvements for surely do not warrant the price and new contract... And I rather have the TBolt over the Incredible S just for the form factor.

hrbib21, in the video the interviewer asks will it been in the U.S. on Verizon and the HTC rep confirms that it will be (but also says that is will not be CDMA so it may be like the TBolt and have SIM card, but he also says its running 2.3 and is GSM... so I am :thinking:

)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCa74X71okw&feature=related

chmura · Feb 16, 2011

Great phone!

WBMc36 · Feb 16, 2011

Medion said:
Nvidia has only officially announced the Tegra 2, which is dual-core. But, you said that Nvidia has quad-core processors out for phones NOW. I'm not one to call someone a liar.

So, please educate me. Name me ONE phone that is available today that is running an Nvidia quad-core processor. Just one is all I ask.

No phone has a quad core out I obviously know that. But they have been announced. Why buy a single core phone with almost the same generation chip in it that the Inc has running an obsolete version of android, in my eyes at least. 2.3 is out and the honeycomb gingerbread mashup should be coming soon. The Inc s is pretty much the same phone. And the Inc is already a great device. I'm not going to waste an upgrade for something that is obsolete before it is even released.

zerocool79346 · Feb 16, 2011

WBMc36 said:
No phone has a quad core out I obviously know that. But they have been announced. Why buy a single core phone with almost the same generation chip in it that the Inc has running an obsolete version of android, in my eyes at least. 2.3 is out and the honeycomb gingerbread mashup should be coming soon. The Inc s is pretty much the same phone. And the Inc is already a great device. I'm not going to waste an upgrade for something that is obsolete before it is even released.

A. It is not the same generation chip, the disparity in performance between the two is HUGE.

B. HTC is not putting 2.3 on any of their phones. Why should they waste the time and money to do that when 2.4 is literally less than 4 months away from being released, and will probably be released less than a month or so after the Inc S is released.

Again, this phone, and the Thunderbolt, represent leaps and bounds of improvements over the Inc, that your opinion does not match up with that does not make it any less of a fact.

najaboy · Feb 16, 2011

WBMc36 said:
I'm not going to waste an upgrade for something that is obsolete before it is even released.

I take it, then, that you'll never be upgrading your phone again.

ral2108 · Feb 16, 2011

najaboy said:
I take it, then, that you'll never be upgrading your phone again.

what a useless comment. he obviously is waiting for something a little more bleeding edge than the Inc S. Sure it's an improvement, but worth signing a 2 year contract for? I think not.

Medion · Feb 16, 2011

WBMc36 said:
No phone has a quad core out I obviously know that. But they have been announced.

No, they haven't. While companies have said that they are working on quad-core chips, no one has commented on a release date other than "no sooner than 2nd half of 2012."

Nvidia's Tegra 2 is dual-core, not quad. The ONLY quad-core mobile chip being released this year is for Sony's NGP/PSP2 gaming platform.

So I don't see how a quad-core chip possibly being released in 24 months makes a dual-core obsolete today.

najaboy · Feb 16, 2011

ral2108 said:
what a useless comment. he obviously is waiting for something a little more bleeding edge than the Inc S. Sure it's an improvement, but worth signing a 2 year contract for? I think not.

No more useless than any other interjection in this thread. It's a constant that any hardware announced will be "obsolete" by the time it hits the market.

Regardless, a vastly improved processor, better gpu, more video codecs supported, larger screen, eight generation GPS engine, and front facing camera can be compelling reasons for some. If they aren't for you, that's great, too.

The new phones from HTC address what many feel is the greatest shortcoming of the Incredible- it's cpu. Moving to a 45nm processor should keep temperatures down and alleviate the relatively common random reboot issue that we see with the Incredible. Additionally, performance is going to increase despite the same advertised clock speed. There is also more room to OC, since the ceiling for the MSM8255 is 1.4GHz.

That being said, we aren't going to see this phone in its current iteration on Verizon. Support for CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel 0/A/B is not one of the features of the MSM8255 chipset. As it stands, this is a GSM only phone.

Medion · Feb 16, 2011

Additionally, performance is going to increase despite the same advertised clock speed.

Due to RAM or other changes in the system. Despite the process size reduction, it's still the same core, so it's the same performance at the same clock speed. The benefits will be the better battery life, stability, and overclock headroom. Also, the new GPU is no slouch

That being said, we aren't going to see this phone in its current iteration on Verizon. Support for CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel 0/A/B is not one of the features of the MSM8255 chipset. As it stands, this is a GSM only phone.

8255 is the GSM version while 8655 is the CDMA version. Or, they can use the 8255 and tack on a separate CDMA radio for Verizon support and world roaming capability. The Incredible uses the 8650 and is based on the HTC Desire (8250). They could move the Desire S or Incredible S over to Verizon and call it the Incredible 2 with a similar change.

Socrats · Feb 16, 2011

Upgrading to this phone is a waste . Basically same specs. SMH

A.Nonymous · Feb 16, 2011

I'm not due for an upgrade for another year or so. I've never understood why people pay such high fees just to upgrade their phones all the time.

Beatlesfan · Feb 16, 2011

A.Nonymous said:
I'm not due for an upgrade for another year or so. I've never understood why people pay such high fees just to upgrade their phones all the time.

I've got an available upgrade on my line that's just begging to be used on my next phone. Now I just have to decide what it'll be. I thinking it has to be HTC because I'm addicted to Sense.

That bionic does look nice though, as does LG's optimus 3d if we ever get it in the US.

My next phone Incredible S!

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