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Help Why don't more people like the Moment?

The blue tint is a cold hard fact about this phone. It exists and there are threads and professional reviews all over the net stating this exact flaw. And the somewhat disappointing low resolution is also a fact as stated in the official specs of the phone - 320x480. And the 16 million colors doesn't compare to the 65 million of the droid. I don't need glasses. Despite the fact its amoled, this screen has much to be desired.


Actually the droid as 16million colors not 65 million I bet the higher resolution on the droid would look nice though. But there is a blue tint if you tilt the phone in a awkward position. Ive owned the phone since nov 2nd & as long as your not tilting it awkwardly there isnt a blue tint.

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The blue tint is a cold hard fact about this phone. It exists and there are threads and professional reviews all over the net stating this exact flaw. And the somewhat disappointing low resolution is also a fact as stated in the official specs of the phone - 320x480. And the 16 million colors doesn't compare to the 65 million of the droid. I don't need glasses. Despite the fact its amoled, this screen has much to be desired.
65 million colors? What are you smoking.. P.s. the droid screen is a piece of shit TFT-LCD that is skewed red as much as the moment's amoled screen is skewed blue..
Also note since it is backlight be a physical bulb, it will dim over time and the color will start to shift.. while a LED display does not suffer this problem
 
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65 million colors? What are you smoking.. P.s. the droid screen is a piece of shit TFT-LCD that is skewed red as much as the moment's amoled screen is skewed blue..
Also note since it is backlight be a physical bulb, it will dim over time and the color will start to shift.. while a LED display does not suffer this problem

Yeah I may have been smoking about the 65 million colors. I think the was an early rumor about the nexus phone....and that was stuck in my head. Either way the whites are awful on this phone which is my main gripe. All being said I love this phone. I am not bashing the phone. Merely stating a flaw....which for a potential buyer could be a deal breaker.
 
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Yeah I may have been smoking about the 65 million colors. I think the was an early rumor about the nexus phone....and that was stuck in my head. Either way the whites are awful on this phone which is my main gripe. All being said I love this phone. I am not bashing the phone. Merely stating a flaw....which for a potential buyer could be a deal breaker.

I wonder if possibly some moments have a worst blue tint then others like i said i dont really have a problem with it(it is there) if i tilt my phone back and forth on a white picture or website I see it but if i hold it how i normally hold my phone i dont at all.
 
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The blue tint is more extreme at an angle yes. But its still blue when viewed head on. I just did a side by side comparison with my wifes hero and it is very blue.....viewed head on. Some may never notice it. I personally find it very noticable. Maybe because I see my wifes phone every day. To the OP........I would still choose the Moment over the Hero. Pros of the moment definitely outweigh the pros of the Hero. And for the record I was aware of the blue tint BEFORE I purchased the phone and it didn't affect my decision. 2010 will definitely be the year to buy an android phone. I don't think we are far away from a much more impressive phone than the Moment. And to future buyers.....an AMOLED Screen would be a requirement for me on any future android phones
 
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The tint is definitely always there. I side by side compare it with my Hero all the time. I like black or gray text on a crisp white background and the Moment looks just plain dingy. I don't care about movies and such. That part is fluff. Something that's nice to have if/when I need it. But when it comes to reading things like emails and webpages, I find it easier on the Hero. I'll take color accuracy over saturation any day. Add that to better contrast on the Hero and depending upon your needs you can prefer one over the other.

For me, AMOLED will only be a requirement if they get the white balance correct or allow the user to adjust the color temp, gamma and such of the screen to their liking. If you can adjust tv's and computer monitors, there's no reason not to offer these adjustments on better phone screens as well.

And Zombie, there are quite a few programs in the market to do shortcuts of all sorts including direct sms and calls. To me that's one of the lesser benefits of HTC's implementation of android. But it still adds up to a bunch of things that should be part of the stock OS and not something they rely on 3rd parties to develop.
 
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The blue tint is a cold hard fact about this phone. It exists and there are threads and professional reviews all over the net stating this exact flaw. And the somewhat disappointing low resolution is also a fact as stated in the official specs of the phone - 320x480. And the 16 million colors doesn't compare to the 65 million of the droid. I don't need glasses. Despite the fact its amoled, this screen has much to be desired.


A review is an opinion. That opinion is skewed by the person writing it. What makes someone a professional? Does writing 1 review or 100 make you pro? I dont recall there being an actual college level degree based on cell phone review. I love watching cell phone reviews, where they claim to be professional and then spend 5 minutes talking about the "feel" of the material on the back of the phone. I am a tech geek. I dont care about the feel of the case on a phone I am purchasing. I dont plan on sitting there caressing it daily.

I have had my moment for two months. I have not seen a blue tint. Maybe I am just color blind. Maybe I just need to hold it at an akward angle more often, which wont happen in normal operation of the device. The screen looks much better when placed next to the droid IMO. Two of my co-workers and a college buddy of mine all purchased the droid. I have placed each of their phones next to mine individually and watched the same videos. Also, opened a coupled different games to compare the image quality. The moment looks better. Yes all of them agree'd with me.

There. That is my "professional" review. Its my opinion. Oh, but I have actually used the phone for 2 months. Not 20 minutes. In various lighting environments. In darkness. In the bathroom. In my car. Still no blue tint.

I guess those professional reviewers know something I dont.

Now back to caressing my phone....
 
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A review is an opinion. That opinion is skewed by the person writing it. What makes someone a professional? Does writing 1 review or 100 make you pro? I dont recall there being an actual college level degree based on cell phone review. I love watching cell phone reviews, where they claim to be professional and then spend 5 minutes talking about the "feel" of the material on the back of the phone. I am a tech geek. I dont care about the feel of the case on a phone I am purchasing. I dont plan on sitting there caressing it daily.

I have had my moment for two months. I have not seen a blue tint. Maybe I am just color blind. Maybe I just need to hold it at an akward angle more often, which wont happen in normal operation of the device. The screen looks much better when placed next to the droid IMO. Two of my co-workers and a college buddy of mine all purchased the droid. I have placed each of their phones next to mine individually and watched the same videos. Also, opened a coupled different games to compare the image quality. The moment looks better. Yes all of them agree'd with me.

There. That is my "professional" review. Its my opinion. Oh, but I have actually used the phone for 2 months. Not 20 minutes. In various lighting environments. In darkness. In the bathroom. In my car. Still no blue tint.

I guess those professional reviewers know something I dont.

Now back to caressing my phone....


It kills me how offended people get when you say something negative about something they own. My comments about the blue screen were nothing more than a mere statement. Much of reviews are based on opinion. But when the whites on this phone show a bluish tint when compared to another phone that is not opinion its fact. This thread was started to ask comparisons of the Moment and Hero. And the moments screen is washed out blue when compared to the hero. I own both phones. And this is fact not opinion. Take your phone to a sprint store and side by side it with a hero and you will see. Yes you may not notice unless you side by side compare but its there.......and that's a fact.
 
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It kills me how offended people get when you say something negative about something they own. My comments about the blue screen were nothing more than a mere statement. Much of reviews are based on opinion. But when the whites on this phone show a bluish tint when compared to another phone that is not opinion its fact. This thread was started to ask comparisons of the Moment and Hero. And the moments screen is washed out blue when compared to the hero. I own both phones. And this is fact not opinion. Take your phone to a sprint store and side by side it with a hero and you will see. Yes you may not notice unless you side by side compare but its there.......and that's a fact.


Just did this with a hero at my office. I do not see a blue tint. I dont have any trouble seeing the color blue normally. What am I missing?

Offense is only taken due to people that keep stating this as a flaw of the moment, and I cant see it. I feel like I am punching a paper bag..bothering to even post about this.
 
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YES THE MOMENT HAS A BLUE TINT.. it exists.. it is because of the color spectrum outputted by LED's.. BUT the hero/droid/all other non amoled screens have just as much of a red/yellow tint to them as an amoled screen has a blue tint.. tft lcd's are known for this (you start to see it as lcd displays age).. when you do a side by side comparison, the hero/droid/whatever doesn't actually look white unless you have partial color blindness (if most of you are guys, guess what.. you have color blindness to some degree.. i know i do in some shades)... the eye sees blue easier then red/yellow due to the shorter wavelength of the color.. Also account for what lighting you are under.. if it is a normal bulb, it is skewed to the lower wavelength colors (reds and yellows) which would bath you in a "soft white" otherwise known as yellow.. in this light your eye adjusts and the tft lcd screen will look normal.. if you go into a real white light (the new cool color CFLs or normal CFLs or any other arc lamp) the yellow/red of a tft lcd becomes much more apparent...
 
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everyone has preferences as to what they find visually pleasing whether it's skewed to warm or cool. The Hero and the Moment are skewed in different directions. Regardless of their different technologies, the screens can also be calibrated to compensate and make them more neutral. Heck, AV installers make a living out of it. Companies make products to do it as well. There's no reason why phone companies can't do the same. If their screen pushes a color over others, then they can tone it down and bump up the others to compensate. I only wish I knew why it hasn't trickled down to these touch screen devices yet.

That being said, there is a difference in the screens if you hold them up side by side with the same content. So it comes down to which one you prefer. If it was me, I would prefer the Moment if I was more media oriented. But I care more about how clean black text looks on a white background, and I prefer the Hero's screen. I have both phones and have used them extensively. For me it strictly comes down to typing. I truly don't care for on screen typing no matter how much I do of it. I had the Hero with me for my New Year's trip, and it was just reinforced. I like having more screen real estate while I'm typing. I type more intuitively on a real keyboard as the touch typing skills learn the keyboard layout, and I can take my focus away from the keyboard. So all the other diffrences aside, it's the one thing that affects me most on a daily basis.

I also think HTC and Sense add a lot to the "smartphone experience" where vanilla Android fails and 3rd parties fall short or just add way too much lag. If the kernel update helps there, great, but I still don't like relying on 3rd party software for some things I think should be built in like T9 dialing. The phone part of Android is laggy enough as it is. It's the least crisp of any phone I've ever used, and programs like aContacts that add T9 severely add to the lag. Having it built into the Hero makes it much smoother.

Of course people here will be defensive about their purchase so you'll see things skewed towards the Moment. But in the end, both phones have merits and drawbacks. Many of them personal and not universal. So take everything with a grain of salt, read forums and reviews for both to figure out which one you'd like to try first. You've got 30 days to essentially give both a shot and see which one works best for you.
 
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All the phones I have had in the last 8 years have had a bluish tint. My first phone used blue indiglo lighting on the screen.

The blue tint has never bothered me; I don't even notice. But to be honest, how could most of you know what white light is anyway? For the last several decades lights were yellow/amber tinted, and we all got used to that so much that when people see HID headlights they think they're blue (they're not).

BFD.
 
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The Palm Centro had two revisions. The first one with the shiny red, black and blue colors, and then the 2nd revision with the matte soft touch finish in the flake pea green and whatever the 2nd color was. The screens were distinictively different. The newer one had the same tonality the Moment does, while the original was more like the Hero. Same basic screen, probably a different mfg. Was annoying to not have the brighter white of the original.

Don't think you need to know what white light is or what degree Kelvin for the color temp. You just know what's pleasing to your own eye which is what matters in the end. All the back and forth arguing is useless. Walk into the store. Play with both. Check out the same websites and graphics on both and see which you like better. Problem solved.
 
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