***Official Samsung Fascinate 2.2 Speculation Thread***

nitsuj17 said:

From what I gather (suxor feel free to chime in) verizon has a newer build as of 3/17 (assuming its ec17 then).

theoretically it could ota in 2-3 weeks if it passes testing, but dont hold your breath

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Awww... you IRC people always being "in the know".

I think it is taking so long because Verizon don't really care if it is late. They would like to have it right but are not putting a ton of money into testing because the majority is happy with their phone. The people wanting 2.2 is just a drop in the bucket compared to how many out there own them. I see people everyday that don't know their phone is slow or glitchy. "It just runs that way" is what I was told today until I showed her my phone with voodoo SC 2.9...

Well and I was cheating a bit I had SPB Mobile shell running but she really wants an update now...

Wow...I missed the Fascinate Forums. I can not believe Froyo still Isnt released for our beloved Fascinate. Well I may be back here soon enough, I'd rather deal with 2.1, then horrid battery life with this Thunderbolt. Yes its that bad peeps!

sean76 said:

Wow...I missed the Fascinate Forums. I can not believe Froyo still Isnt released for our beloved Fascinate. Well I may be back here soon enough, I'd rather deal with 2.1, then horrid battery life with this Thunderbolt. Yes its that bad peeps!

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HTC = Bad battery rep

nklenchik said:

HTC = Bad battery rep

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Get an HTC EVO 3D battery. 4000mah!!!! LOL

Oh btw, don't know if anyone has seen this.

2.2/Froyo pulled? - xda-developers

speedfreak said:

... I see people everyday that don't know their phone is slow or glitchy. ...

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It's all point of view I suppose. My Fascinate is stock 2.1 still and it is not slow or glitchy. It runs just fine. I want many things that Froyo offers, but I still think it is very very good as is now. It's all in one's point of view ...

Meh. I just want 2.2 to be released so they dev's can get the source. I tried running 2.2 voodoo on superclean ROM but the calling was so glitchy, it made the phone aspect unbearable to use.

Running 2.1 jt's voodoo kernal with undervolt, getting 1-3 days per charge. On 2.2 my phone would die by the end of the day..

bxojr said:

I think it's a combination of two things: first, ineptitude on the part of Samsung Mobile (which is, after all, not a software company); and second, Verizon's rigorous testing. The first is a bad thing, and the second is a good thing. But both mean delays.

There is plenty of evidence that Samsung has been trying. They've delivered multiple builds of Froyo to Verizon; unfortunately, it has taken them forever to do so, and the builds have been too buggy for Verizon to release. (This would also explain why Samsung is so tight-lipped about what's going on: they can't exactly admit that they keep screwing it up.)

I wish Samsung were better at this, but they're not. And given their apparent quality problems, I'm glad Verizon is testing the hell out of it.

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What you say is likely partially true, but I did some more digging, and my inside source in Verizon (you can choose to believe whether it's legit or not, but I believe him/her) said "working for Verizon sucks now because of the internal changes that have been made in order to cater to Apple's demands." He also claims that the iPhone is the sole reason they got rid of or drastically reduced the "New every 2" program as well.

They still have AT&T by the balls as well. Anyone that wants to get an early upgrade (not eligible for a 2 year contract renewal) can get an iPhone for only $100 over the normal 2 year commitment price ($200 + $100 = $300). With any other phone you have to pay $200 on top of the normal 2 year commitment price (Atrix $200 + $200 = $400). Why should Apple users get special treatment when we all pay the same for phone and data plans?

Like I mentioned before. This is of course, Samsung's fault for being late on all the builds, and sending them to Verizon and other carriers in ridiculously imperfect states. But regardless of Verizon's rigorous testing, sweeping changes have had to be made company wide to both accommodate the current iPhone 4 and get ready for the new version coming soon. I think this is part of the reason why Verizon resisted for so long. But I don't believe the additional delays specific to Verizon now are solely because of their rigorous testing process. I still believe one of their overarching priorities, perhaps the most prominent one now, is the iPhone. I hope I'm wrong, but I see too much evidence. And not one person has yet been able to point out another smartphone that's received as much special treatment as the iPhone 4 did, even though it was a 6th months late release.

SirKronan said:

What you say is likely partially true, but I did some more digging, and my inside source in Verizon (you can choose to believe whether it's legit or not, but I believe him/her) said "working for Verizon sucks now because of the internal changes that have been made in order to cater to Apple's demands." He also claims that the iPhone is the sole reason they got rid of or drastically reduced the "New every 2" program as well.

They still have AT&T by the balls as well. Anyone that wants to get an early upgrade (not eligible for a 2 year contract renewal) can get an iPhone for only $100 over the normal 2 year commitment price ($200 + $100 = $300). With any other phone you have to pay $200 on top of the normal 2 year commitment price (Atrix $200 + $200 = $400). Why should Apple users get special treatment when we all pay the same for phone and data plans?

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I wouldn't sweat it too much, It's all technical sales numbers mumbo jumbo, without getting into too much detail and/or lingo, there are always ways around stuff like that, manufacturer rebate's, online rebates, subsidies, intro offers and stuff like that, that can be used to level the playing field.

Just saw this!

Gingerbread for Samsung Galaxy S, Vibrant, Fascinate next week. Update Kies to get ready for Android 2.3

Fingers crossed!

**I think this might only be in Europe.**

Dammit!

^^ old news. europe only.

I hope that new build (ec17 or whatever it is) makes it's way out to our devs, I'd love to try that build out... I'd like it even more if it became an official release, but not holding my breath.

Seriously? The Mesmerize for US Cellular gets 2.2 today. Never again Samsung.

http://www.androidcentral.com/android-22-froyo-samsung-mesmerize-now-available-us-cellular

FragDroidX said:

Seriously? The Mesmerize for US Cellular gets 2.2 today. Never again Samsung.

Android 2.2 Froyo for the Samsung Mesmerize now available from U.S. Cellular | Android Central

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Well that's good news, I've got to believe mesmerize kernel source could be useful to the devs.

FragDroidX said:

Seriously? The Mesmerize for US Cellular gets 2.2 today. Never again Samsung.

Android 2.2 Froyo for the Samsung Mesmerize now available from U.S. Cellular | Android Central

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I'm willing to bet a large sum of money that Verizon shares a lot of if not an equal share of the blame as well. You call Verizon, they blame Samsung and tell you to contact them. You call Samsung, they blame Verizon and tell you to contact them. As usual, the customers get screwed because there is no accountability.

Do you guys think Samsung is skipping Froyo and goes straight to Gingerbread for us? =D

fortesquieu said:

Do you guys think Samsung is skipping Froyo and goes straight to Gingerbread for us? =D

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I don't see why they would do something like that, but I wouldn't put anything past them at this point in time.

fortesquieu said:

Do you guys think Samsung is skipping Froyo and goes straight to Gingerbread for us? =D

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No. If we ever get Gingerbread it will be after Froyo. Else what would you dip your gingerbread in?

SirKronan said:

No. If we ever get Gingerbread it will be after Froyo. Else what would you dip your gingerbread in?

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Those little cups of icing you get from Burger King with their cini-minis?

n0ct3m said:

Those little cups of icing you get from Burger King with their cini-minis?

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damnit now i have a craving *looks at clock* BK is closed........i know where I'm stopping for coffee in the morning

hasnt this thread become rather silly because the ODIN file for stock FROYO
has been out for ages. I am running it on my Fascinate and have been for a while. I dont see how anyone who knows what FROYO is hasnt already updated their phones.

..we still need the source files to built better kernals and roms. ..

n0ct3m said:

Those little cups of icing you get from Burger King with their cini-minis?

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I have it on good authority that those are supplied by The American Dental Association. In unmarked trucks, of course.

nunyazz said:

..we still need the source files to built better kernals and roms. ..

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mesmerize source is out ....frankly i still feel sorry for the nonroot crowd, but im done complaining for awhile

zaphodbebleebrox said:

hasnt this thread become rather silly because the ODIN file for stock FROYO
has been out for ages. I am running it on my Fascinate and have been for a while. I dont see how anyone who knows what FROYO is hasnt already updated their phones.

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I wouldn't say so seeing how the thread is about the official version to be released over-the-air. Despite how easy it is, most people aren't comfortable with going that route and should not have to.

Foxcow said:

...should not have to.

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^^^^^^That's the whole thing right there.