Nexus One to Sensation or Galaxy S2?

Mostly Harmless · Apr 23, 2011

mkrmec said:
I'm going for the Galaxy S2 if it has a open bootloader. I'd rather see Samsung truly release open source drivers of the phone, then it would be perfect.

Sensation is a piece of crap phone if you ask me. I hate the aluminum body .. one bad drop and it's all bent up, 1 GB of storage???, qHD display is probably crap compared with SuperAMOLED+, I don't even wanna talk about the battery and encrypted/signed bootloader on the sensation, etc etc....

The Nexus One has an aluminum body and I never had any issue with it. I will agree that I do like the SAMOLED.

mkrmec · Apr 23, 2011

Mostly Harmless said:
The Nexus One has an aluminum body and I never had any issue with it. I will agree that I do like the SAMOLED.

If Nexus One falls on the edge it opens up like a flower, and you have to send the phone to replace it because it can't be fixed any other way. it's the same with HTC Desire, and probably more HTC Al phones.

Rusty · Apr 24, 2011

mkrmec said:
If Nexus One falls on the edge it opens up like a flower, and you have to send the phone to replace it because it can't be fixed any other way. it's the same with HTC Desire, and probably more HTC Al phones.

Fell from chest height, in it's neoprene pouch, which annoyingly leaves one side unprotected:

Pretty robust really.

mkrmec · Apr 25, 2011

Rusty! said:
Fell from chest height, in it's neoprene pouch, which annoyingly leaves one side unprotected:

Pretty robust really.

The neoprene pouch probably helps more than we think. I was at a friends yesterday. He has a HTC desire.. and he dropped it once. It's opened like a flower on the edge ... so much you can see the insides of the phone.

I'd rather go with breakable plastic next phone, this bending and stuff isn't for me.

volsey · Apr 29, 2011

It's aluminum, a relatively soft and light metal. Any concentrated force is going to cause deformation obviously. But I can't see how in anyone's mind a shattered, or completely mangled or broken phone (plastic) is better than a small dent (aluminum body)?

Not only that, but the aluminum is usually part of the frame, in a uni-body type design, which essentially means that while there might be physical deformation, other than the screen, the phone will most likely continue working.

So I'm not sure I follow your reasoning.

mkrmec · Apr 30, 2011

volsey said:
It's aluminum, a relatively soft and light metal. Any concentrated force is going to cause deformation obviously. But I can't see how in anyone's mind a shattered, or completely mangled or broken phone (plastic) is better than a small dent (aluminum body)?

Not only that, but the aluminum is usually part of the frame, in a uni-body type design, which essentially means that while there might be physical deformation, other than the screen, the phone will most likely continue working.

So I'm not sure I follow your reasoning.

1. Plastic absorbs shocks better than aluminium, plus the plastic used isn't just ordinary plastic, it's designed to be durable. Samsung has excellent plastic.
2. if a plastic phone has a interior magnesium reinforcement like new Samsung phones, it won't break
3. Aluminium body does not absorb the shocks, it just transfers it on the components next to it, screen, interior of the phone etc.

The thing is that if you want to fix a Aluminium frame phone it costs into hundreds of $$, for a plastic phone it's much much cheaper.

mkrmec · Apr 30, 2011

ironass said:
I have been pondering on the HTC Sensation since its announcement but the more I read, the more doubts I'm having.

Since, by their very nature, phones are not "future proof" and are constantly evolving it seems to make sense to me to get the handset that has most under the hood so to speak. That way I figure that it will be up for Android firmware updates for awhile (unlike the SE X10) and also Cyanogen Mod's.

I have been comparing the HTC Sensation side-by-side with the Samsung Galaxy S 2 here:-

HTC Sensation vs. Samsung I9100 Galaxy S II - GSMArena.com

and notice that the Galaxy seems to have the edge on the Sensation in several areas...

Weight: Galaxy 116g Sensation 148g

Display: Galaxy Super AMOLED Sensation S-LCD

RAM: Galaxy 1Gb Sensation 768Mb

Phone Storage: Galaxy 16/32Gb Sensation 1Gb

HSDPA: Galaxy 21 Mbps Sensation 14.4 Mbps

Secondary camera: Galaxy 2MP Sensation VGA

CPU: Galaxy Mali-400MP GPU Sensation Adreno 220 GPU

Battery: Galaxy 1650 mAh Sensation 1520 mAh

In fairness, the Sensation does seem to have a better (more solid) build quality and more screen pixels as well as the Sense3 UI eye candy.

My question is, owning the HTC Nexus One, modded with CM7, which I am over the moon about and having experienced Samsung phones on symbian, some years ago (not in a good way), I wondered if any of the above differentials in spec's would, or should, sway anyone to either handset and why?

Alternatively, is there something now, or in the near future, that eclipses both of these. For instance... a new Nexus?

The S2 has everything better than Sensation.. EVEN the screen is better with a bit less resolution than Sensation SLCD screen. You can't compare the two displays because SAMOLED+ is just soo much better.

Sensation is just a last year phone with newer software nothing else.

All new HTC phones have encrypted bootloader, counting custom ROMs out, atleast until somebody hacks it, if they are able to do it.

HTC build quality vs Galaxy S2 quality is negligible. If you still think Aluminium is better than plastic, I personally think it's not for more than one reason. HTC build quality isn't that great either, thinking of all those dust victims etc.

Rusty · Apr 30, 2011

Look at the SoC of the Sensation and tell me what it was used in last year please.

mkrmec · May 3, 2011

Rusty said:
Look at the SoC of the Sensation and tell me what it was used in last year please.

And that's all the difference besides the screen...

For the price it will sell for it's not enough.

Roze · May 3, 2011

mkrmec said:
Sensation is just a last year phone with newer software nothing else.

Wait...you're calling an A9 Cortex 1.2 Ghz dual core Snapdragon processor last year technology :thinking:

mkrmec · May 3, 2011

Roze said:
Wait...you're calling an A9 Cortex 1.2 Ghz dual core Snapdragon processor last year technology

If you think about it, it was designed last year and produced this year

NO I'm not calling it last years tech, I'm saying the phone has nothing really new to offer, only the SoC changed and the screen, other things are the same as phones from last year let's say Desire HD.

Roze · May 3, 2011

Sorry intoxicated atm but what the bloody hell is SoC?

Soupdragon · May 4, 2011

Roze said:
Sorry intoxicated atm but what the bloody hell is SoC?

Was beginning to think I was the only one
:eek:

Roze · May 4, 2011

Soupdragon said:
Was beginning to think I was the only one

Intoxicated or don't know what SoC is?

Soupdragon · May 4, 2011

Roze said:
Intoxicated or don't know what SoC is?

lol, Ambiguity rules .... or does it? :thinking:

I confess to not knowing what SoC means, and tho', atm, I'm not playing for Bacchus' team, it's not an unknown occurrence.

mkrmec · May 4, 2011

SoC = System on Chip

and it represents all the good stuff in the main chip aka... Snapdragon, Orion, Tegra, etc

You don't "exactly" have a CPU inside your phone, you have a System on Chip inside it. That means the main SoC has CPU+GPU+loads of other things in one chip. It's like having a entire standard motherboard in one chip. inputs and outputs etc.

Get it?

Roze · May 4, 2011

Oui! Lol

Mostly Harmless · May 4, 2011

Roze said:
Sorry intoxicated atm but what the bloody hell is SoC?

Drinking and browsing the forums, nice.

aviator · May 4, 2011

Mostly Harmless said:
Drinking and browsing the forums, nice.

Something wrong with that?

Rusty · May 7, 2011

Not in my book, I do it all the time.

Occasionally I've woken up wondered about performing damage control

karthikrg · May 9, 2011

Roze said:
Wait...you're calling an A9 Cortex 1.2 Ghz dual core Snapdragon processor last year technology

The snapdragon is based on a modified Cortex-A8 micro-architecture and not the A9.

The A9 is more efficient clock-for-clock as compared to the snapdragon IMHO.

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