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I think the point is that breaking a legal contract is punishable in a court if a suit is brought and the person is found guilty. To me, if it is punishable by law, then it is illegal. Just my opinion.

If you do have to call and cancel there are going to be a lot of angry VZW customers when they receive their June bill. I was never told if I didn't call to cancel I'd be charged, nor did any of the other 10 TB owners I know

I just called this afternoon and was told by "Derek" that this isn't like previous promos, and this one will automatically disenroll, and that the system didn't allow them to remove it now. When the customer goes to use it after the 15th it will prompt the user to add it to their plan at that time. Time will tell.
 
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but it's two different "laws": Criminal and Civil.
On that note. Verizon (and AT&T) are in violation of LAWS by blocking tethering
Verizon is violating the 700 Mhz open platform restrictions already


Bingo!... you get the prize.. although your citation is a little off.. ;)


Big difference between Criminal and Civil law.

Civil = "Breach of Contract" or "infringement" .

Criminal = "Penal Code Violation". This changes from state to state. Federal is altogether something different which does not apply here at all.


Also they (2nd party) has to prove malice in breach. Very difficult to do.
 
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Ok your wikidicionary site the second definition is not permitted by the rules. The tos is basically Verizon's rules to be on their service. So yes you even gave me the link but there's your proof that breaking their rules in their contract is indeed illegal to do. Should I give you my contact inconsiderate you can send my $500?:p

You are splitting hairs. The original post that started this conversation specifically stated that there are no laws being broken by tethering. You chose instead to spin the definition of the word, "illegal." It still doesn't make for a good offense. The fact is, there are NO FEDERAL, STATE OR LOCAL LAWS that ban the use of tethering your phone to your computer with a phone service provider. I dare you to try to prove me otherwise.

My offer still stands, if you give me the three legitimate sources that say it's illegal (again, for emphasis, so you can understand, illegal to mean; against any FEDERAL, STATE OR LOCAL LAW).
 
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You are splitting hairs. The original post that started this conversation specifically stated that there are no laws being broken by tethering. You chose instead to spin the definition of the word, "illegal." It still doesn't make for a good offense. The fact is, there are NO FEDERAL, STATE OR LOCAL LAWS that ban the use of tethering your phone to your computer with a phone service provider. I dare you to try to prove me otherwise.

My offer still stands, if you give me the three legitimate sources that say it's illegal (again, for emphasis, so you can understand, illegal to mean; against any FEDERAL, STATE OR LOCAL LAW).
Not splitting hairs as I used a link you posted to define Illegal and I showed you the second definition fits the Contract as verizon states its rules and its illegal to break them. You cant use just one definition to justify your point. WHen there are many different definitions. So I didnt spin nothing. I proved to you that the term illegal is justified and not just means to break the law.

I proved it to you so I would like my $500 please. Plus I was justifying that the term illegal is right in saying its illegal to tether. After all I guess a Quarterback cant break the Rule in football of illegal fwd pass as he hasnt broken any laws just a rule in football.
 
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Not splitting hairs as I used a link you posted to define Illegal and I showed you the second definition fits the Contract as verizon states its rules and its illegal to break them. You cant use just one definition to justify your point. WHen there are many different definitions. So I didnt spin nothing. I proved to you that the term illegal is justified and not just means to break the law.

I proved it to you so I would like my $500 please. Plus I was justifying that the term illegal is right in saying its illegal to tether. After all I guess a Quarterback cant break the Rule in football of illegal fwd pass as he hasnt broken any laws just a rule in football.

Yes, I can use one definition to to justify my point. The reason I did, is because that's the point that was being made.

You didn't prove it to me, you just merely proved you can't read.

I specifically stated, "Tell you what, I'll give you $500.00 U.S.D. if you can cite 3 independent, reliable sources, stating it's illegal to tether your phone to your computer through a service provider you pay for your phone service."

You haven't been able to do that hence, the whole reason why you don't have money in your pocket. :D
 
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I just called this afternoon and was told by "Derek" that this isn't like previous promos, and this one will automatically disenroll, and that the system didn't allow them to remove it now. When the customer goes to use it after the 15th it will prompt the user to add it to their plan at that time. Time will tell.
It could be that I was miss-informed. Brand new to Verizon, so I don't know how good their customer service is.
Phone should come in today. I'll play with it a bit and maybe call back to see if I get a different answer.

Tony
 
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Guys, can we stop arguing over semantics please?!? You are both right, it is not illegal in the, "gonna break down your door and get arrested by the law" sense. No one in law enforcement is going to care if you are tethering. Now illegal can also mean against the rules, so tethering is against the rules that you sign with VZW.

With that being said the person who originaly made the post was only trying to say that tethering was not illegal in the sense that you can get arrested or in trouble for it. He made sure to let people know that it was against the ToU that you sign with VZW.

He was trying to explain that because someone was confused and seemed to think that tethering was against the law. So can we please stop now with the back and forth?
 
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