Help HTC EVO 3D: Full specs for TECHIES & DUMMIES!

EarlyMon · Jun 4, 2011

jerofld said:
The thing about the schematics showing 756 megs instead of 1 gig of RAM could be the result of the Sensation having being built first. I'm sure they copied a lot of the schematics for the E3D and neglected to change that part in the schematics, but hopefully remembered to change the parts in the BOM.

If not, it'll be interesting to see how HTC will fix it.

Except the Sensation doesn't have 4GB eMMC.

It's either a typo, or there's 256 MB squirreled away inside the 8660, or after 3 months of saying otherwise, they'll change the spec. (Last one - I doubt.)

Sgt. Slaughter · Jun 4, 2011

EarlyMon said:
Except the Sensation doesn't have 4GB eMMC.

It's either a typo, or there's 256 MB squirreled away inside the 8660, or after 3 months of saying otherwise, they'll change the spec. (Last one - I doubt.)

You guys got me all confused with the memory talk and theres too much college baseball with beer going on for me to go back and read slow.

Are they counting the memory card as part of the internal memory or is it really 4GB on board for storage without the memory card in the phone?

EarlyMon · Jun 4, 2011

Sgt. Slaughter said:
You guys got me all confused with the memory talk and theres too much college baseball with beer going on for me to go back and read slow.

Are they counting the memory card as part of the internal memory or is it really 4GB on board for storage without the memory card in the phone?

See my earlier post explaining this when time permits.

There is one MCP one the motherboard.

That one MCP has ram + 4 GB rom in it.

Total ram on the phone will be 1 GB.

The microSD card - the memory card - is completely separate, and allows you to add 32 GB of user-storage space.

Jensen · Jun 4, 2011

I don't think you have to worry about there not being 1GB:

AnandTech - Gallery - HTC EVO 3D Tour - 29 Photos

That is about right considering a portion of the memory is cordoned off for the Adreno GPU.

novox77 · Jun 4, 2011

EarlyMon said:
(Fun fact if you've read this far. Flash memory is factory-built with one of two types of logic - NOR (not or) or NAND (not and). The flash we use in our phones is the nand logic type. So when you hear rooters talking about the NAND bootloader or making a nandroid backup of their rom - it's all about using slang for the actual type of flash memory the phones have.)

a NORdroid backup just doesn't have the same ring to it. glad they chose NAND.

Vanquished · Jun 4, 2011

EarlyMon said:
To Vanquished:

I'd keep the specs simple. Just replace CDMA2000 with CDMA and I'd spec 4G like this:

4G: WiMAX (same as on Evo 4G, even the same radio chip)

I'd spec memory like this:

1 GB RAM (LPDDR2 type)
4 GB ROM (eMMC type)

Up to 32 GB microSD user storage optional, 8 GB stock

Cool, I made those changes, and added a bunch of pictures after the links as well.

Sgt. Slaughter · Jun 4, 2011

EarlyMon said:
See my earlier post explaining this when time permits.

There is one MCP one the motherboard.

That one MCP has ram + 4 GB rom in it.

Total ram on the phone will be 1 GB.

The microSD card - the memory card - is completely separate, and allows you to add 32 GB of user-storage space.

Okay you were explaining how there was one chunk of memory that they seperated into defining 2 types then. gotcha. Was thinking when i skimmed it quick that they were saying with the memory card it was considered 1. thats where i read too fast and was completely lost/shocked.

EarlyMon · Jun 4, 2011

Yep, cool. MCP - two very different memory chip types (RAM and eMMC/ROM) and the controller inside one black package - instead of a bunch of separate chip packages on the board. Then SD card is separate.

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Pity the Samsung owners. They're being told they have an internal SD card and an external SD card - and their internal SD card shares with the rom.

I really, really, really hate how Samsung marketing re-explains things until people are confused, but believe.

There's no correcting the poor devils now - Samsung told them they have an internal SD memory card, so they have an internal SD memory card now.

They have a Sammy ram+eMMC package, just like the 3vo.

/sigh

EarlyMon · Jun 4, 2011

Jensen said:
I don't think you have to worry about there not being 1GB:

AnandTech - Gallery - HTC EVO 3D Tour - 29 Photos

That is about right considering a portion of the memory is cordoned off for the Adreno GPU.

You know - I just realized something:

369 free on that phone - 256 = 113 MB

If this were the Sensation running the same out of the box stuff, then it would only have 113 MB free -- possibly explaining its browser sluggishness the longer the phone runs (per user comments I've seen + that video).

Yeah - no question the 3vo has more memory and ought therefore outperform the Sensation for just regular people loading apps and going to town, Android-style.

Sgt. Slaughter · Jun 4, 2011

EarlyMon said:
You know - I just realized something:

369 free on that phone - 256 = 113 MB

If this were the Sensation running the same out of the box stuff, then it would only have 113 MB free -- possibly explaining its browser sluggishness the longer the phone runs (per user comments I've seen + that video).

Yeah - no question the 3vo has more memory and ought therefore outperform the Sensation for just regular people loading apps and going to town, Android-style.

803MB odd amount of space no? OR are you saying that the GPU takes about 221MB memory for itself?(1024MB-803MB)
That must be a later build b/c the video taken at the CTIA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ynmqtopi9g&feature=player_embedded#at=393 at about 5:16ish doesn't show values for memory at all.

noticed the 3D scored lower(Better) on the javascript test according to the photos at anandtech.com gallery.
BUT seemed the sensation scored a touch higher on the browsermark test....

you2 · Jun 4, 2011

Yea; the sd card can be removed without removing the battery. I hate it when they stick it behind the battery.

AnandTech - Gallery - HTC EVO 3D Tour - 29 Photos

NeoteriX · Jun 4, 2011

PyroSporker said:
It might not be officially confirmed but I think it is relatively safe bet since the Evo 4G and Evo Shift 4G both officially had it and HTC seems to have a good partnership with Corning. People that have done hands on with The Evo 3D should be able to tell and have not refuted it.

CORNING

EarlyMon · Jun 4, 2011

Yep, but I recall no posts on the how of it - one day somebuddy said, oh, look, we have Gorilla Glass now.

Chalk it up with the Evo having 3 different LCD suppliers and possibly 4 different touchscreens - lotta changes as they scaled up production.

EarlyMon · Jun 5, 2011

you2 said:
Yea; the sd card can be removed without removing the battery. I hate it when they stick it behind the battery.

AnandTech - Gallery - HTC EVO 3D Tour - 29 Photos

Cue the problem reports for people that don't unmount their SD card first in 3... 2...

I've always suspected SD card behind the battery is like that to force the masses to have power off before tinkering with it while running and flooding complaints.

Hmmm - looking at that picture, I wonder if the battery doesn't need to be removed first to slide the SD card back?

EarlyMon · Jun 5, 2011

Moved some posts to here - http://androidforums.com/sprint/349124-future-sprint-800-mhz-band-posts-moved-evo-3d-forum.html

Here - http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/335824-3devo-pre-release-miscellany.html

And here - http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/331783-underlying-tech-evo-3d-qhd-3d-dual-core-smp.html

All good and interesting stuff - but not specifically in place here.

you2 · Jun 5, 2011

Can't tell for sure might be able to pop it out; i hope so. I use mine for media so I often have a couple with different movies. Wish they would design them like the tablets (slot on the side).

EarlyMon said:
Cue the problem reports for people that don't unmount their SD card first in 3... 2...

I've always suspected SD card behind the battery is like that to force the masses to have power off before tinkering with it while running and flooding complaints.

Hmmm - looking at that picture, I wonder if the battery doesn't need to be removed first to slide the SD card back?

themuffinman75 · Jun 5, 2011

EarlyMon said:
Cue the problem reports for people that don't unmount their SD card first in 3... 2...

I've always suspected SD card behind the battery is like that to force the masses to have power off before tinkering with it while running and flooding complaints.

Hmmm - looking at that picture, I wonder if the battery doesn't need to be removed first to slide the SD card back?

you2 said:
Can't tell for sure might be able to pop it out; i hope so. I use mine for media so I often have a couple with different movies. Wish they would design them like the tablets (slot on the side).

From the looks of it, I would say that you will have to remove the battery before taking out the sdcard. Everything looks so flush and tight and not much room to really move without breaking something.

deltatko · Jun 5, 2011

Check this out

http://m.pocketnow.com/android/htc-evo-3d-interactive-simulator-goes-live

EarlyMon · Jun 5, 2011

Moved this over here - I think this one is way cool, maybe way nice for the OP here.

Vanquished - please note above.

ArmageddonX · Jun 5, 2011

Thanks so much deltatko! I accidentally posted in another thread about this lol... It's WAY cool!

Here is the link for the Desktop version:
Device Simulator Care

Vanquished · Jun 5, 2011

EarlyMon said:
Moved this over here - I think this one is way cool, maybe way nice for the OP here.

Vanquished - please note above.

Done.

Vanquished · Jun 5, 2011

EarlyMon said:
Cue the problem reports for people that don't unmount their SD card first in 3... 2...

I've always suspected SD card behind the battery is like that to force the masses to have power off before tinkering with it while running and flooding complaints.

Hmmm - looking at that picture, I wonder if the battery doesn't need to be removed first to slide the SD card back?

It's possible you still have to remove the battery...There still may be a way to pop it up like on the EVO though.

PyroSporker · Jun 8, 2011

Vanquished said:
It's possible you still have to remove the battery...There still may be a way to pop it up like on the EVO though.

According to the guy, who had the phone in hand, that helped dump the system files last night from the Evo 3D to help begin the root process. He answered me on the XDA IRC channel that you cannot remove the microSD while the battery is installed. He said the battery in fact blocks the access.

ebolamonkey3 · Jun 8, 2011

Man, now that they've dumped the rom on the 3vo, you guys think we'll see custom roms by release?

jerofld · Jun 8, 2011

It's possible. Personally, I'd be happy with just root, at first.

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