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Sprint about to unveil $20 billion LTE deal with Lightsquared?

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Not to burst some bubbles, but it probably will not be lte. It will more then likely be wimax. Cost wise it would way cheaper to deploy wimax then lte. Wimax will also be a better use of spectrum.

But let us really look at what happen here.

Lightsquared needs to leave the their current spectrum because of gps issues. They agreed to pay sprint 20 billion over the next 15 years to use sprints spectrum and whole sell it out. In the process, it will take about 2 years to get the system up and running, in the short term clear will still remain with wimax.

There is zero reason for sprint to use lte on the equipment of lightsqaured, only if they want to pay alot more for the roll out.

It just makes zero sense to go with lte over wimax. They will pay more for the same service.
 
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Still looks like there's a lot up the air (really, no pun intended) when it comes to Lightsquared and GPS. Unless/until the dispute is settled, I really hope Sprint isn't throwing too much money into this venture. It could all end up being a waste.

One (of many, I'm sure) articles here...
Chasm exists between LightSquared, GPS sector over interference issues -- Urgent Communications article
I think the deal was made because of these issues. Sprint as a ton of open spectrum. See above post.
 
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Not to burst some bubbles, but it probably will not be lte. It will more then likely be wimax. Cost wise it would way cheaper to deploy wimax then lte. Wimax will also be a better use of spectrum.

But let us really look at what happen here.

Lightsquared needs to leave the their current spectrum because of gps issues. They agreed to pay sprint 20 billion over the next 15 years to use sprints spectrum and whole sell it out. In the process, it will take about 2 years to get the system up and running, in the short term clear will still remain with wimax.

There is zero reason for sprint to use lte on the equipment of lightsqaured, only if they want to pay alot more for the roll out.

It just makes zero sense to go with lte over wimax. They will pay more for the same service.

I hope its Wimax and not LTE.
 
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Not to burst some bubbles, but it probably will not be lte. It will more then likely be wimax. Cost wise it would way cheaper to deploy wimax then lte. Wimax will also be a better use of spectrum.

But let us really look at what happen here.

Lightsquared needs to leave the their current spectrum because of gps issues. They agreed to pay sprint 20 billion over the next 15 years to use sprints spectrum and whole sell it out. In the process, it will take about 2 years to get the system up and running, in the short term clear will still remain with wimax.

There is zero reason for sprint to use lte on the equipment of lightsqaured, only if they want to pay alot more for the roll out.

It just makes zero sense to go with lte over wimax. They will pay more for the same service.

Not to argue with you but:

 
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Two, where the hell is Lightsquared going to raise the money to pay Sprint..

I'll be honest, I don't know for certain as I'm not really into econ/finance. However, I do know that LightSquared is backed by a very lucrative hedge fund that is currently providing large amounts of funding for Falcone and his LS project. Also, they plan to go public soon, which should (ideally) bring in more funding.
 
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I'll be honest, I don't know for certain as I'm not really into econ/finance. However, I do know that LightSquared is backed by a very lucrative hedge fund that is currently providing large amounts of funding for Falcone and his LS project. Also, they plan to go public soon, which should (ideally) bring in more funding.

The hedge fund is worth about 7-9 billion now. The investors are not happy with the Lightsquared deal and several want them to change direction or pull out of the fund..

They plan to issue an ipo soon..
 
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Warning rant...
If they go to lte, they will be bankrupt in about 5 years.

Here is why. The flat out truth is this. Sprint would need to spend about 6-7 billion dollars on top of the 5 billion dollars they already spent. The 20 billion will barely covers sprints debt, they would have to take out 5 billion more to get lte out. By the time they get full lte coverage with the first 5 billion, which would take about 3-4 years. Verizon would be on lte-a. Which would out perform sprints network by leaps and bounds. Top that off with the operating costs of the network going up about 3 times more then they are now, will offer the nothing new to the market, have a smaller foot print then the other two, and still have to build out the rest of the 3g and 4g networks in the areas they do not cover? Not going to happen.

Let me but it in plain simple English. If sprint goes with lte, it would be like a person that earn 10,000 dollars spending 100,000,000 dollars on a car to drive to work. Honestly, lightsquared ideas have been tried before and do to the problems with solar interference and maintenance cost it was quickly abandoned.

I could understand the move if sprint had about 10 billion dollars just laying around. But even with this deal, they are still about 8 billion short in the next 15 years and they have to spend 10 billion dollars more to get the network to compete with verizon.

Sprint was given about 6.4 billion dollars to begin with. They spent out 5 billion dollars on wimax. They screwed it up so badly, I am frankly surprise it works. Verizon is spending about 5 billion to upgrade lte. The cost is so low because they own the patients and license for the technology.

Verizon already said it was 5 billion in the next 5 years and x billion on down the road. With this deal sprint will have about 5 billion dollars and zero partners, besides lightsquared, which in my personal opinion will not work.

If they go lte, they will have to go it alone, not even verizon can do that, verizon had to get 8 partners to build out lte. Sprint wants to spend the faction of the money that verizon and att are spending, with a partner with a company that could not figure out 4 years ago that it would screw with gps. I could have told you that.

But you want the big kicker? You know how they are going to have to get around the gps issue? You really want to know? They are going to have to cut back the power on the tower by 50%? So each tower will produce 50% less signal and off the top of my head 3/8 less speed, off the top of my head.

Lightsquared, I just don't see how it is going to work, it has been tried before, it will just not work with lte. They simply can not build out a network alone. If sprint does these, they will go it alone and going it alone is going to be a colissal failure. Why? Because sprint had the best technology handed to them, they had the 6.4 billion dollars handed to them, they had over 30 partners fully backing them up, and they failed.


The only pratical way this is going to work.

Sprint rents out tower space to lightsquared, not spectrum, and continues to build out wimax.

This would not cause sprint to have to redo the 5 billion dollars already spent and spend 5 billion more on upgrades. It would give them a permanent renter for their towers, and allow satellite back haul in remote areas.

But if sprint wants to deploy a lte network with or replace wimax with lte, it would be like buying a space shuttle to get to the work.

They already have a great technology, all they have to do is get it working right.

PS. Lightsquared uses satellites to backhaul ground based towers. Sprint is letting letting lightsquared build out lte on sprint towers for the 20 billion dollars. They are just renting tower space. No spectrum, at least as far as I understand, is not exchanging hands.

Bottomline, sprint need to cross the river, not stop in the middle and try to figure out what to do, they wasted a ton of money on stupid stuff already. I hope they will stop wasting money and build out the network, regardless what they use.

/rant off
 
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Warning rant...
If they go to lte, they will be bankrupt in about 5 years.

Here is why. The flat out truth is this. Sprint would need to spend about 6-7 billion dollars on top of the 5 billion dollars they already spent. The 20 billion will barely covers sprints debt, they would have to take out 5 billion more to get lte out. By the time they get full lte coverage with the first 5 billion, which would take about 3-4 years. Verizon would be on lte-a. Which would out perform sprints network by leaps and bounds. Top that off with the operating costs of the network going up about 3 times more then they are now, will offer the nothing new to the market, have a smaller foot print then the other two, and still have to build out the rest of the 3g and 4g networks in the areas they do not cover? Not going to happen.

Let me but it in plain simple English. If sprint goes with lte, it would be like a person that earn 10,000 dollars spending 100,000,000 dollars on a car to drive to work. Honestly, lightsquared ideas have been tried before and do to the problems with solar interference and maintenance cost it was quickly abandoned.

I could understand the move if sprint had about 10 billion dollars just laying around. But even with this deal, they are still about 8 billion short in the next 15 years and they have to spend 10 billion dollars more to get the network to compete with verizon.

Sprint was given about 6.4 billion dollars to begin with. They spent out 5 billion dollars on wimax. They screwed it up so badly, I am frankly surprise it works. Verizon is spending about 5 billion to upgrade lte. The cost is so low because they own the patients and license for the technology.

Verizon already said it was 5 billion in the next 5 years and x billion on down the road. With this deal sprint will have about 5 billion dollars and zero partners, besides lightsquared, which in my personal opinion will not work.

If they go lte, they will have to go it alone, not even verizon can do that, verizon had to get 8 partners to build out lte. Sprint wants to spend the faction of the money that verizon and att are spending, with a partner with a company that could not figure out 4 years ago that it would screw with gps. I could have told you that.

But you want the big kicker? You know how they are going to have to get around the gps issue? You really want to know? They are going to have to cut back the power on the tower by 50%? So each tower will produce 50% less signal and off the top of my head 3/8 less speed, off the top of my head.

Lightsquared, I just don't see how it is going to work, it has been tried before, it will just not work with lte. They simply can not build out a network alone. If sprint does these, they will go it alone and going it alone is going to be a colissal failure. Why? Because sprint had the best technology handed to them, they had the 6.4 billion dollars handed to them, they had over 30 partners fully backing them up, and they failed.


The only pratical way this is going to work.

Sprint rents out tower space to lightsquared, not spectrum, and continues to build out wimax.

This would not cause sprint to have to redo the 5 billion dollars already spent and spend 5 billion more on upgrades. It would give them a permanent renter for their towers, and allow satellite back haul in remote areas.

But if sprint wants to deploy a lte network with or replace wimax with lte, it would be like buying a space shuttle to get to the work.

They already have a great technology, all they have to do is get it working right.

PS. Lightsquared uses satellites to backhaul ground based towers. Sprint is letting letting lightsquared build out lte on sprint towers for the 20 billion dollars. They are just renting tower space. No spectrum, at least as far as I understand, is not exchanging hands.

Bottomline, sprint need to cross the river, not stop in the middle and try to figure out what to do, they wasted a ton of money on stupid stuff already. I hope they will stop wasting money and build out the network, regardless what they use.

/rant off

I knew you would have a strong opinion about this. Thanks for your point of view (being very serious it is always educational). Yeah I am very concerned about Sprint's moves here and hope that they have a better plan then we seem to think they do. I think they are just in this spot where they don't know what to do and are scrambling. Lightsquared has also signed deals with BestBuy, Leap, Cellular South, SI Wireless which are very very small players and as someone else pointed out the investors in the Hedge Fund powering this thing are skittish and want out so where they are getting the money is beyond me. I know they are creating an IPO but it feels to me like Sprint is getting into another Clearwire situation. Add to that this article: Sprint Gets Lien on LightSquared Spectrum: Will Anybody Need It? Sprint really should just work to get better coverage with WiMax and roll forward. Unfortunately I think they are just screwed in that regard because they need cash to build out a network. Personally I think one thing that screwed Sprint's roadmaps was Verizon's buy out of Alltel followed by them selling off a bunch of towers to AT&T and then restructuring Sprint and Alltel's Reciprocal Roaming Agreement which was set to expire in 2015. The original agreement would have allowed Sprint to continue to upgrade and build out their network and slowly ween off of the Roaming agreement. Now their coverage took a major hit and they have to scramble.
 
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The rumors were true, but given the long, torrid affair between these two it shouldn't be a surprise.

Sprint and LightSquared have confirmed their intentions to the world, stepping into a whopping 15 year agreement that will be worth $9 billion in cash for Sprint and will save LightSquared an estimated $13 billion.

LightSquared will have the right to sell access to Sprint's burgeoning LTE network, while Sprint can also piggy-back on the other's existing capacity where needed.

Link:Sprint and LightSquared confirm agreement, 15 years worth of LTE network sharing and more -- Engadget
 
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