Gingerbread 2.3 was here, then gone, now it's back

johnt519 · Sep 19, 2011

euph_22 said:
Interestingly, while I blame the developing team for making this mistake I don't really blame the QA people for not catching it. It's a very minor issue, that would only effect the market and only cause a problem if you are trying to install a Verizon app. It's not hard to imagine that even a very rigorous testing regime would miss that. About the only test for that problem would only be useful for check the build.prop file, and if it didn't occur to the developers to change the build.prop, they wouldn't have told the testers to test it.

Ummm.. developers generally don't tell QA what to test - good QA departments have their own testing, then report to the developers what is wrong.

Maybe the market thing may have slipped by, hell, normal users even had a hard time finding the Sprint section. But where in the About Phone it shows an Evo with a 4.3" screen? That should have been trivial to check! So sure, I'd blame QA.

euph_22 · Sep 19, 2011

johnt519 said:
Ummm.. developers generally don't tell QA what to test - good QA departments have their own testing, then report to the developers what is wrong.

That should have been trivial to check! So sure, I'd blame QA.

It's also completely meaningless. That doesn't/shouldn't effect how any actual software on the phone acts. That's like somebody acidently point a "Frod Focus" on the back of the car, and then getting upset when the crash safety technician doesn't catch it. It's completely outside the scope of the testing.

And it's a CRITICAL part of software testsing/verification to have the Dev team tell the testers what needs testing. The testers then test to make sure it meets the requirements, checks for bugs in the newly implemented/revised software itself and check to make sure implementing the new software didn't cause any new bugs. They also test to make sure it will be installed correctly. If the dev team didn't tell them what needed testing, how could the testing people possibly do their jobs.
"Ok guys, were done with the update. We changed roughly 4% of the overall code. So retest the entire system from top to bottom, and report everything you find. Never mind that the vast majority of those bugs are completely known, and completely unrelated to our new software. And the fact that would take months and months, an army of software testers and will generally be a complete waste of time for 96% of the code."

jsmuli2 · Sep 19, 2011

I'm a tester, and though Dev doesn't tell us what to test, we take the time to ask them what they think we should focus more on.

So I blame the entire Dev department including QA.

jrmckins · Sep 19, 2011

jsmuli2 said:
So I blame the entire Dev department including QA.

I blame Canada.

JaRN99 · Sep 19, 2011

I blame the lobsters.....and the dang Cheetos.

euph_22 · Sep 19, 2011

jrmckins said:
I blame Canada.

That goes withoot saying.

BabyBlues · Sep 19, 2011

Hey now, some of the best things come from our neighbors to the north....especially fun things like police called Mounties. And a lot of my favorite bands come from Canada.
I'm blaming the lobsters, the dingos, the gargoyles (cause I just know they're lying in wait) and the cheetos.

Crashumbc · Sep 19, 2011

BabyBlues said:
Hey now, some of the best things come from our neighbors to the north....especially fun things like police called Mounties. And a lot of my favorite bands come from Canada.
I'm blaming the lobsters, the dingos, the gargoyles (cause I just know they're lying in wait) and the cheetos.

Damn Gargoyles!

I plan on jumping to one of the mostly stock GB roms this week... been needing to wipe and reload my phone for awhile :/

That should keep me going till my upgrade in Dec. Hopefully the HTC Vigor (incredible HD?) Is everything their claiming it should be!

tbcurtis · Sep 19, 2011

I blame NightAngel79... :eek:

If only I could find a picture of lobsters, cheetos, and gargoyles all fighting together! I might have to get creative in photoshop!

FramCire · Sep 19, 2011

While the rollout has been slowed drastically/halted to most likely fix the Apps on SD card issue , it does take about 14 days for the rollout to be complete and usually another 7-14 days for all to be updated.

Once the update is back in full swing, it will be at least 14 days until all phones are updated.

This has to do with how the phone is updated. This is also why the date change trick often works after 14-21 days.

johnt519 · Sep 19, 2011

FramCire said:
While the rollout has been slowed drastically/halted to most likely fix the Apps on SD card issue

And you know this for a fact, how? I've seen zero responses from Verizon confirming or denying such thing. The closest we've seen is someone's response to their tweet saying the rollout is ongoing.

FramCire said:
it does take about 14 days for the rollout to be complete and usually another 7-14 days for all to be updated.

Once the update is back in full swing, it will be at least 14 days until all phones are updated.

This has to do with how the phone is updated. This is also why the date change trick often works after 14-21 days.

I do remember you saying the rollout takes 7 to 14 days... but I don't recall a statement saying it'll take ANOTHER 7 to 14 days. So I could wait up to a month to see this update? Not withstanding any updates to the update?

Wonderful.

jrmckins · Sep 19, 2011

johnt519 said:
I do remember you saying the rollout takes 7 to 14 days

I'm not sure where that came from. I've heard that the rollout can take many weeks.

johnt519 · Sep 19, 2011

jrmckins said:
I'm not sure where that came from. I've heard that the rollout can take many weeks.

Here is one:
http://androidforums.com/htc-droid-...re-has-update-been-pulled-54.html#post3185628

NightAngel79 · Sep 19, 2011

jrmckins said:
I blame Canada.

M A C!

tbcurtis said:
I blame NightAngel79... If only I could find a picture of lobsters, cheetos, and gargoyles all fighting together! I might have to get creative in photoshop!

You sir have just been banned!! Bye Bye!!

(j/k)

or am I?

FramCire said:
Please go to the gingerbread thread at top of page. It is still rolling out and many do not have it yet. Do not be surprised if it takes 12-14 days for last devises to be updated.

This is a ballpark estimate

jrmckins said:
I'm not sure where that came from. I've heard that the rollout can take many weeks.

Very true... just think of how many Inc there are in the wild... i think it is reasonable to assume at least 500k

johnt519 said:
Here is one:
http://androidforums.com/htc-droid-...re-has-update-been-pulled-54.html#post3185628

Yes, it may take a month... unfortunately that is how it goes i'm afraid

FramCire · Sep 19, 2011

johnt519 said:
And you know this for a fact, how? I've seen zero responses from Verizon confirming or denying such thing. The closest we've seen is someone's response to their tweet saying the rollout is ongoing.

I do remember you saying the rollout takes 7 to 14 days... but I don't recall a statement saying it'll take ANOTHER 7 to 14 days. So I could wait up to a month to see this update? Not withstanding any updates to the update?

Wonderful.

It is possible to have to wait that long. Usually you can get it earlier using the date trick. (This is usually after day 14 or so that the date trick becomes a possibility)

Verizon says very little officially because that is the way they do business. Many companies believe bad communications are worse than no communications. Thanks to forums and social media, a small communication can go from a person giving someone some extra info into people getting up in arms because the company did not deliver "as promised" even though no promise was ever made.

Despite the point made in this thread about the problems being minor, it is always best to wait a few more weeks and have the update flawless (as flawless as it can be)

For those unhappy about the wait, while understandable, remember that this update is not needed for the phone to perform at the level expected when your phone was purchased (and subsequently retained). Also, this update is of an EOL phone and thus is really above what was expected.

While I understand that the incredible does have some issues that people hope are addressed (out of space error and battery life), and thus feel the update is needed for the phone to perform as expected, I still maintain this update is more enhancement to phone than an update fix.

This is the only problem to having forums like this one (And there are way too many benefits to list) . People raise their expectations based on threads like this and then get angry when those expectations aren't met.

Trooper · Sep 19, 2011

Im glad I popped in here to see this thread. I heard a few weeks ago on Droid Life that it was rolling out, yet my wife's phone has still not received the update.

Good to know Im not alone.

Cheers.

tbcurtis · Sep 19, 2011

NightAngel79 said:
M A C!

You sir have just been banned!! Bye Bye!!

(j/k)

Didn't all this blaming get started by the dingos you suggested?!

dingos=verizon

Pretkomel · Sep 19, 2011

Almost 2/3 of September already gone. Having a blast waiting for GB.

Minimike · Sep 19, 2011

The update is on UARS. It will be spread around Friday.

NightAngel79 · Sep 19, 2011

Uars??

Minimike · Sep 19, 2011

Upper Atmosphere Research Satellite. It is in the process of an uncontrolled deorbit. 6.5 metric tons of goodness.

http://www.n2yo.com/?s=21701

jdaghir · Sep 19, 2011

NightAngel79 said:
Uars??

UARS = Upper Atmosphere Research Satellite

Dead weather satellite that is supposed to crash into the atmosphere soon.

euph_22 · Sep 19, 2011

jdaghir said:
UARS = Upper Atmosphere Research Satellite

Dead weather satellite that is supposed to crash into the atmosphere soon.

Isn't this how the Andromeda strain started?

mkdanz · Sep 20, 2011

2.3 has rendered my phone inoperable. I am receiving phone storage low errors and application errors. Voice recognition stopped working. Now all apps force close. Spoke to HTC, they were aware of the problem and are working on a patch, but there is no ETA. Verizon had the same story. Nice QA job HTC...

captainm27 · Sep 20, 2011

People, the solution to all your problems / issues is to forget the OTA and take the plunge to rooting. Seriously, I was so fed up with all these issues, that I decided to find an alternative and found Business Gingersense 3.0

All my problems / issues are fixed. Everything works on my phone, plus I'm using Sense 3.0

[ROM] Nils' Business GingerSense - Android 2.3.3 - Sense 2.1/3.0 + 3D (8/14/11 V3.0) - xda-developers

Gingerbread 2.3 was here, then gone, now it's back

When will VZW push a fixed GB OTA

10/11/11

10/17/11

10/24/11

10/31/11

11/07/11

11/14/111

11/21/11

Don't care (rooted already, etc)

Before Christmas

Never, the lobsters ate all the testers so it got cancelled

It isn't coming at all now

Any minute now

Immediately after Jimmy Hoffa's body is found

The day after the apocalypse

Sometime after the sun goes supernova

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