Root Koush has released CWR for the Bionic

p8ntballah21 · Sep 23, 2011

amageus said:
Could it be that CWM doesn't work if SU isn't working properly? It does need to ask for SU permissions to make changes. So I am guessing if you have SU issues then CWM will not work for you?

Its hard to tell for me at least because I never really noticed when my SU icon disapeared. I do know that when I first installed CWM it did NOT ask for SU permissions. But all my previous root apps were working all along.

When I reverted back I had my SU app and all is well now. Im going to wipe and reinstall the deox rom and see what happens

dmbfan13 · Sep 23, 2011

amageus said:
Could it be that CWM doesn't work if SU isn't working properly? It does need to ask for SU permissions to make changes. So I am guessing if you have SU issues then CWM will not work for you?

Yes, SU does need to work i believe. Like I said, SU works just fine for me and everything seems to install correctly, but when I try to boot in to recovery mode, it just reboots back to the OS. I think it has to do with where ROM Manager is putting the clockwork folder. It's putting it on internal memory and not the sdcard.

amageus · Sep 23, 2011

I know there was that issue with the OG Droid and we had to flash the alternate recovery and then back to CWM to get it work. Unfortunately we dont have that option unless you try to install the Bootstrap Recovery and the flash CWM again to try to get it to work?

As far as where the files are being installed I dont think that's the issue cause mine is working and I have no changed the location of the file.

p8ntballah21 · Sep 23, 2011

dmbfan13 said:
Yes, SU does need to work i believe. Like I said, SU works just fine for me and everything seems to install correctly, but when I try to boot in to recovery mode, it just reboots back to the OS. I think it has to do with where ROM Manager is putting the clockwork folder. It's putting it on internal memory and not the sdcard.

CWM is installing a file on the internal memory, but it actually is storing the back up in the same folder as bootstrap, so when you go into cwm and you cannot see your backups because the program is pointing to the internal memory while the back up is on the sd card.

aearles · Sep 23, 2011

bigbabys said:
How can bootstrapping not be necessary on a locked bootloader? I could never get ROM Manager to properly boot into CWR.

I am curious about this as well. CWR is just another method of performing the same procedure as the Bionic Bootstrapper app, right? Except that it can manage the ROMs in the GUI and all that...

This does not mean that we can cold boot into recovery right?

Mine installed fine, requested root access, flashed the recovery, and rebooted into recovery, but as I suspected above the VOL+/- startup does not trigger CWR, but the stock recovery. Just want to confirm my thoughts on this...

Thanks!

OutOfPhase · Sep 23, 2011

Ok I wiped everything and flashed http://androidforums.com/bionic-all-things-root/417848-first-bionic-rom-unl3ash3d-v1-0-a.html . SU app was back. opened and flash new recovery in rom manager. hit reboot into recovery and it just rebooted the phone. Then I ran the bootstrap app, hit boot strap recovery, got success and exited without booting into recovery. Went back into rom manager and selected boot into recovery, loaded right into recovery. rebooted phone, went to rom manager and hit boot into recovery again and booted right back into recovery again.

Short story. You need the super user app showing in your app drawer, bootstrap app and select bootstrap recovery once. After that there should be no problem running rom manager.

BenDroid · Sep 23, 2011

bigbabys said:
As I stated above I've never had ROM Manager fully work with any ROM based on the motorola kernel. This includes every custom ROM on my X. It did work with 2init roms like CM7 however.

Well, I came from the OG and ROM Manager worked like a charm everytime for me, so it not working properly on a Motorola device is completely new to me.

messenger13 · Sep 23, 2011

OK, so I had issues with Rom Manager and Superuser, like some of you. I had to uninstall Superuser, then reinstall it from the Market, open it up and let it update the binaries. Then I uninstalled BootStrap recovery. Then open Rom Manager and install CWM version 5.0.2.5.

OutOfPhase · Sep 23, 2011

If you check your recovery against the latest there is an update from 5.0.2.4 to 5.0.2.5

Vixer · Sep 23, 2011

Has anyone successfully backed up a ROM using ROM Manager?

Or at this point is everyone just doing a Nandroid backup?

EDIT: Nevermind, using Messengers advice it rebooted into backup just fine.

Vixer · Sep 23, 2011

Vixer said:
Has anyone successfully backed up a ROM using ROM Manager?

Or at this point is everyone just doing a Nandroid backup?

EDIT: Nevermind, using Messengers advice it rebooted into backup just fine.

Oh dang, I cannot find the /sdcard/.android_secure or the sd-ext so it doesn't complete backup of the system or the applications.....

Vixer · Sep 23, 2011

Vixer said:
Oh dang, I cannot find the /sdcard/.android_secure or the sd-ext so it doesn't complete backup of the system or the applications.....

Hmmm. Using the Files app I navigated to SD Card/clockworkmod/backup and found my backup, but using ROM Manager with the Manage and Restore Backups program this backup does not appear.

Seems like part of it is working, but not completely. :thinking:

OutOfPhase · Sep 23, 2011

messenger13 said:
OK, so I had issues with Rom Manager and Superuser, like some of you. I had to uninstall Superuser, then reinstall it from the Market, open it up and let it update the binaries. Then I uninstalled BootStrap recovery. Then open Rom Manager and install CWM version 5.0.2.5.

Thanks. I wish I new this before I did a full wipe.

johnlgalt · Sep 23, 2011

It's time to pwn my BIONIC.

Nuff sed.

johnlgalt · Sep 23, 2011

tehsusenoh said:
Yes, it is here.

Check the ROM Manager, it's on the list!

Reports show that this version is a bit slower than CVPCS's version, but it's still official.

Also, the progress bar works!

No bootstrapping needed anymore, and ROM Manger supposedly works.

With RM premium, you have the option of disabling the progress bars, which speeds up the backup / restore process. So, it makes sense that with the progress bars enabled he backup and restore process takes longer.

I'm flashing CM Recovery now - I wonder if I'll get any updates from now on?

tehsusenoh · Sep 24, 2011

johnlgalt said:
With RM premium, you have the option of disabling the progress bars, which speeds up the backup / restore process. So, it makes sense that with the progress bars enabled he backup and restore process takes longer.

I'm flashing CM Recovery now - I wonder if I'll get any updates from now on?

That's interesting that a simple thing like progress bars could increase backup times like that.

And we've already gotten an update twice today, if that means anything!

johnlgalt · Sep 24, 2011

Without the progress bar no CPU utilization is required to calculate exactly (or relatively) how much of the process is completed.

And, yeah. Prolly got it out on a rush, and then the bug reports started flowing in....

PerCompLLC · Sep 24, 2011

messenger13 said:
OK, so I had issues with Rom Manager and Superuser, like some of you. I had to uninstall Superuser, then reinstall it from the Market, open it up and let it update the binaries. Then I uninstalled BootStrap recovery. Then open Rom Manager and install CWM version 5.0.2.5.

And after all that, were you able to see your backups with ROM Manager? Just checking before I follow your lead...

OutOfPhase · Sep 24, 2011

Yes, rom manager will see any backup you make with rom manager, it saves it on the internal sd card. If you made a backup with the bootstrap into cw recovery method then it will not see it under manage and restore backups. If you do use rom manager to back up your phone I would copy the backup to the sd-ext because cwr does not see the internal sd card and you will not be able to use it to restore.

p8ntballah21 · Sep 24, 2011

dfib said:
Yes, rom manager will see any backup you make with rom manager, it saves it on the internal sd card. If you made a backup with the bootstrap into cw recovery method then it will not see it under manage and restore backups. If you do use rom manager to back up your phone I would copy the backup to the sd-ext because cwr does not see the internal sd card and you will not be able to use it to restore.

I have not found that to be the case. I made a back up with CWM and it was not visible in ROM Manager. I did some digging with root explorer and found some interesting things. It looks as thoough CWM installed a clockworkmod folder on the internal sd, but there is no backup folder in it. If I go into the sd-ext There is another clockworkmod folder (the one installed by the bootstrap) and that is where my backup I made with CWM is. Seems odd, but I think ROM manager is looking for your backups somewhere else other than the external sd card back up folder.

Also, bootstrap is needed for CWM to work. I have heard some people say that it is not needed but I dont think thats true. I uninstalled bootstrap and when I rebooted into recovery via ROM Manager it just rebooted normally without going into recovery.

PS, Koush has released the official Bionic Bootstrap.

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.koushikdutta.bionic.bootstrap&feature=search_result

OutOfPhase · Sep 24, 2011

p8ntballah21 said:
I have not found that to be the case. I made a back up with CWM and it was not visible in ROM Manager. I did some digging with root explorer and found some interesting things. It looks as thoough CWM installed a clockworkmod folder on the internal sd, but there is no backup folder in it. If I go into the sd-ext There is another clockworkmod folder (the one installed by the bootstrap) and that is where my backup I made with CWM is. Seems odd, but I think ROM manager is looking for your backups somewhere else other than the external sd card back up folder.

Also, bootstrap is needed for CWM to work. I have heard some people say that it is not needed but I dont think thats true. I uninstalled bootstrap and when I rebooted into recovery via ROM Manager it just rebooted normally without going into recovery.

PS, Koush has released the official Bionic Bootstrap.

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.koushikdutta.bionic.bootstrap&feature=search_result

If you made a back up while in clockwork recovery it saves it to the external sd card. If you make a backup while in ROM Manager it will save it to your internal sd card. So if you have only made backups while in recovery then no rom manager will not see your backups because they are on the external sd card, and it is looking for them on the internal. If you make a backup from rom manager it will show in manage and restore backups because they are on the internal sd card. I would then copy the backup to the external sd card where you can read it from recovery.

Also for anybody using the bootstrap recovery that was free, go spend the $3, support the developers and download bootstrap from the market to thank them.

messenger13 · Sep 24, 2011

Things still aren't "right". I can use Rom Manager, or Bionic Bootstrapper to get to CwR ... but I can't get to it just by booting my phone into the stock Bootloader, then selecting 'recovery'.

This doesn't do us a whole lot of good for boot loops, or phones that won't boot at all.

The waiting is not over...

And that's OK. Patience is still a virtue.

EDIT: I think I will pay for Bootstrapper. Koush could probably use a beer 'bout now.

rockstar323 · Sep 24, 2011

messenger13 said:
Things still aren't "right". I can use Rom Manager, or Bionic Bootstrapper to get to CwR ... but I can't get to it just by booting my phone into the stock Bootloader, then selecting 'recovery'. This doesn't do us a whole lot of good for boot loops, or phones that won't boot at all.

The waiting is not over...

And that's OK. Patience is still a virtue.

EDIT: I think I will pay for Bootstrapper. Koush could probably use a beer 'bout now.

The only way to get to CWR is Rom Manager or Boostrapper because the bootloader is locked.

The way it works is it creatates a file that when the phone is rebooted it sends you to CWR instead of booting the phone into the OS. When you leave CWR and successfully load the OS it deletes the file. If you have bootloops after you flash something through CWR and don't make it into the OS it should send you back to CWR. At least that's the way I read it but I could be wrong.

OutOfPhase · Sep 24, 2011

messenger13 said:
Things still aren't "right". I can use Rom Manager, or Bionic Bootstrapper to get to CwR ... but I can't get to it just by booting my phone into the stock Bootloader, then selecting 'recovery'. This doesn't do us a whole lot of good for boot loops, or phones that won't boot at all.

The waiting is not over...

And that's OK. Patience is still a virtue.

EDIT: I think I will pay for Bootstrapper. Koush could probably use a beer 'bout now.

I don't think we will ever be able to boot right into recovery until the bootloader is unlocked. It at least we can restore after we flash an FXZ file, reroot and rebootstrap. It's not like the OG days but I will take it.

messenger13 · Sep 24, 2011

rockstar323 said:
The only way to get to CWR is Rom Manager or Boostrapper because the bootloader is locked.

dfib said:

I don't think we will ever be able to boot right into recovery until the bootloader is unlocked. It at least we can restore after we flash an FXZ file, reroot and rebootstrap. It's not like the OG days but I will take it.

Click to expand...

Yes, I understand this all too well. I just hope the devs can get it UNlocked. What we have now isn't totally useless ... but it's a far cry from what we had on the OG Droid. That freakin rocked!

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