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I just have to say, I love these races between the iphone and androids to see who comes up with the better phone and I allways root for android, which is why the official specs release of the nexus prime (if they are the ones on the initial post in this thread) are really dissapointing...

first of all you can bet your ass the camera will be inferior to the iphone 4s, that's a given. Add the fact that it's only 5mp and that's just overkill.

Then you have an inferior GPU.. whats up with this? it may have a 1.5 CPU but wasn't the GPU in the nexus released in 2007? correct me if im wrong.

Another thing, you can get the iphone 4s in a 64gb model, the androids usualy counter this with sdcard expansion... but not this one.

The one thing that makes me geekout is the screen, that alone probably makes it the best phone in the planet but still.. very dissapointing, I wouldnt be surprised if the iphone 4s beats this phone in a benchmark test.

I am crossing my fingers so that they add a better gpu.
 
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Yeah, the Incredible has Gorilla glass, iPhone does not (as far as I know)

http://androidforums.com/htc-droid-incredible/74641-incredible-using-gorilla-glass-htc-says-so.html

Gorilla glass is a registered trademark of Dow Corning. Ony Dow Corning can sell Gorilla glass. However, Gorilla glass is just aluminosilicate glass. Anyone can sell aluminosilicate glass. Its generic vs trade name.

Is that Jell-O on your plate, or just geletin? Do you have a Droid, or an Android hanset?

So whether the iPhone actually has Dow Corning provided Gorilla glass, or a generic, it's the same thing. That's true with a lot of other manufacturers regarding gorilla glass. Also, Apple is notorious for keeping many of it's suppliers secret, so infact they could be buying from Dow.
 
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I agree with most of your points. I also don't like Apple's attitude, business practices but they do manage their iOS devices, eco-system very well. I think Google needs to make Nexus line like iPhone of androids appealing to masses, not just for tech geeks, and always receiving updates from them. Nexus One and S were somewhat their experimental devices, but Nexus Prime can be huge seller if they market it better properly I think.

Yea I never really minded Apple. Their products weren't exactly my cup of tea, but I can't say I disliked the company. Then the patent wars started and Apple became the bully of the tech world. At least in my mind... Now I refuse to buy anything that features their logo.
 
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Did you see at the very bottom where it stated;

"Availability Disclaimer

This product is intended for high-volume wireless OEMs and ODMs and is not available through distributors. If your company meets this description, please contact your TI sales office."

I did, and nearly pointed it out until I decided to check the page with OMAP5 info on it and it had the same disclaimer. :(
 
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I found this old article pretty funny. Eldar Murtazin, the same guy that told us that features were being removed from ICS a few days ago, was the same guy that was saying the Nexus S had a dual core last year.

Dual-Core processor for Samsung Nexus S is confirmed by a tweet

These reporters was idiots, or they were just stoned.. Is there anywhere in his tweet name 'Nexus'? He tweeted right - he played with "Galaxy 2; i9100", which is SGSII, and is dual-core, indeed.. Peaple..!
 
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I have always hated apple always ever since the first time i tried to use itunes and I COULD NOT GET IT TO WORK, this was back when the first ipod nano released, anyways this whole debacle of releasing phones with the bionic and now the prime....if the prime doesn't blow me out of the water.....I really might consider getting an iphone. I just pick up an iphone and its so smooth and polished and just works....and i can't say I have ever had an experience like that with android...
 
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Again, whether you call it fragmentation, dev stupidity, idiot rooters, or whatever, the point is that the user experience on the iPhone is generally more fluid, smooth, and problem free than anyone on a given Android device.

That's my understanding too. (I don't consider rooters idiots, they're just people who enjoy pushing their phones to the limits.)

The nature of the Android market is such that devs constantly have to tweak and update their apps in order to run on constantly changing phone specs, software, etc. A developer for iPhone's app store has to make 1 app, and tweak it only very little.

The barrier to entry to be an Android developer is low. Buy some PC hardware, install a free Linux and free Android dev tools, and you're good to go. So the quality of apps isn't uniform, and google doesn't remove from the market mediocre apps, just spammy or virusy ones.

You know, if Apple only released one phone and never released another or even any upgrades, you'd have a perfect lack of fragmentation and perfect compatibility of every app released for it. Is that really the direction you want to take Android?!

Elimination of all manufacturer skins and optimization of Google's vanilla Android would be a great start.

I think it's great to have all of these different skins competing to be the most appealing and useful for buyers. Most of us here want the Prime vanilla, but we're not most phone buyers.

Yes, Apple is fragmented, but only to a slight degree. Over all, Apple takes care of their customer base. Who here, who bought an OG Droid, ever saw an official update to Gingerbread? No one. It's possible to run it on the OG Droid, because I'm doing it as we speak. But the manufacturers and carriers leave you high and dry because they want you to buy new and higher-spec'd phones. Apple is pushing iOS 5 to all devices as far back as iPhone 3GS. And that's voluntary.

Why not iPhone 2 or iPhone 1? You have to draw the backward compatibility line somewhere, and I guess Apple drew theirs at the 3GS. I've been tempted to GB my OG, but have been put off by the countless reports of crashes and that yeah it sorta works, but there really isn't enough RAM to run smoothly -- which is plenty of reason for Moto not to have offered it themselves.
 
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These reporters was idiots, or they were just stoned.. Is there anywhere in his tweet name 'Nexus'? He tweeted right - he played with "Galaxy 2; i9100", which is SGSII, and is dual-core, indeed.. Peaple..!

I rarely trust most of these tech bloggers... they tend to go bananas with rumors and such. Some are more reputable than others but I'd rather just wait till an official announcement before hang my hopes upon the latest leak.
 
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Again, whether you call it fragmentation, dev stupidity, idiot rooters, or whatever, the point is that the user experience on the iPhone is generally more fluid, smooth, and problem free than anyone on a given Android device. The nature of the Android market is such that devs constantly have to tweak and update their apps in order to run on constantly changing phone specs, software, etc. A developer for iPhone's app store has to make 1 app, and tweak it only very little. They almost always come off much more polished than in our market.

Those are opinions, especially based on a "given Android device" regarding performance.

My mileage varies a lot.

As for the magic of Apple apps - let's talk Retinal display.

It didn't happen at all because they so loved the world and it was so perfect.

960x640 is a straight 2x2 (read: doubling) of 480x320, the iP3gs resolution.

So, first people were straight-jacketed into a single form factor, then the iOS devs were (oh, yes, dealing with C# and the Apple Store is just not a walk thru the daisies) - but then, in order to compete with our handsets killing that at 800x480, they had to come up with a double-res screen to piss off their devs.

And they called that innovation.

And that nav app on a iPhone along with most others of any use whatsoever that are just so fluid and smooth?

Nice. They should be for what you pay in apps to get locked into that stuff.

I'll stick with Android.

Srsly - I handed out my Evo last July to the guys I worked with who tried to shove their new iP4 phones down my throat. That's all I did - hand them an Evo. 6 out 9 (literal numbers) got an Evo.

So, this whole iPhone is smoother mystique is a large degree of what you do and how you use your phone and how you configure it.

And after ten minutes with my 3D, all of the iSheep I've met have gotten way quiet, way quick, saying only - I hope Apple gives us something like that.

And if you want easy - my 80 year old mom came to visit last year, needed a phone, I handed her my Evo. And within two minutes of launching apps (I showed her how to slide home screens and where the app drawer was) - her very words were, Why didn't your sister get something simple like this instead of that crap iPhone she always complains about.

Nothing personal - but mileage varies, and I just felt the need to speak up on these opinions.

Like I said - my mileage varies - a lot.
 
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Our app developers have to make 1 app, and then tweak it to no end to make sure it works fine on a million different devices. That, to me, is the definition of fragmentation.

That is not true for the majority of apps on Android. You might have to tweak the app to scale to different resolutions, but it is fairly pain free to make it run on all the standard Android phones.

Phone manufacturers want their phones to run the majority of apps so they will build to the standards set by Google and the market.
 
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