Maybe the Galaxy Nexus does have an SD slot

TonyHoyle · Oct 22, 2011

Puppa said:
I believe that tweet was referring to the Nexus S. Just says "Samsung Nexus", not "Samsung Galaxy Nexus". Move along, nothing to see here...

the nexus S didn't have an SD card either. The last Nexus with SD was the Nexus 1.

This was for good technical reasons.. before Honeycomb Android apps only understood 2 places to store data - internal and external... which initially was SD. However when phones started adding large storage internally External became the non-OS partition, leaving nowehere for an SD. For Honeycomb Google added a third memory area, which is used for SD on tablets and addressable by apps aware of it*.

So its possible that the GN has SD, but I'm not holding my breath.

* Edit: I might be wrong about honeycomb fixing it.. last time I worked on an app there were lots of references to a third type of memory, but I didn't pay much attention as I had to be compatible back to 2.2.. however I can't find any API support now I look more carefully. You can tell whether the 'external' memory is on removable storage, but the location of extra SD storage is not officially defined even in the ICS SDK.

redraider1 · Oct 22, 2011

rushmore said:
NAYSAYER!!!!!!!!

Sammy did that with the SGS2 and the devices before that. Europe or At&t in the US would get the models with more flash and VZW would get the lowest versions. Sammy does it since they make more margin on the higher end models, but offer the options (sometimes for differentiation too).

Maybe the slot is inside, but since Google is pushing the cloud, the are not mentioning it...... Anybody pop the Nexus open and look inside?

yes but the sgs2 and sgs1 both had a sd card slot and smaller internal memory. I would say since google is pushing the cloud it wont have one just like the nexus s.

redraider1 · Oct 22, 2011

sean76 said:
I'd say they're going for the 32 Gig only! With the 16 it may hurt Razr sales.

My price point outlook...

Razr- $299 on contract
$649 off contract

Nexus- $399 on contract
$749 off contract

For the Nexus they will probably follow the 32 gig iphone pricing...

Those off contract prices are crazy. The nexus has similar specs to the bionic and it is going to be over 150 more off contract? I think the razr and nexus will prob be 560-590 off contract like the other dual core lte phones. Plus maybe google is helping lower the cost somehow like how amazon does with their devices.

sean76 · Oct 22, 2011

redraider1 said:
Those off contract prices are crazy. The nexus has similar specs to the bionic and it is going to be over 150 more off contract? I think the razr and nexus will prob be 560-590 off contract like the other dual core lte phones. Plus maybe google is helping lower the cost somehow like how amazon does with their devices.

When my lady bought her Bionic is was $649! When you think about it, its right up there with the 16gig iphone 4s...which is also going for $649!

So if vzw does drop the 32 gig Nexus I would expect to see $749 off contract.

If its 16 gig expect it to be the same as the Bionic when it dropped...$649

redraider1 · Oct 22, 2011

sean76 said:
When my lady bought her Bionic is was $649! When you think about it, its right up there with the 16gig iphone 4s...which is also going for $649!

So if vzw does drop the 32 gig Nexus I would expect to see $749 off contract.

If its 16 gig expect it to be the same as the Bionic when it dropped...$649

The difference is apple overprices their goods, not to mention that since it is a google phone and if I am correct the nexus 1 and nexus s were both $529 full retail I could see google with all their services off setting the costs some of the phone. Your lady got ripped then if she paid $649 for her bionic.

sean76 · Oct 22, 2011

redraider1 said:
The difference is apple overprices their goods, not to mention that since it is a google phone and if I am correct the nexus 1 and nexus s were both $529 full retail I could see google with all their services off setting the costs some of the phone. Your lady got ripped then if she paid $649 for her bionic.

Lol...that was the Retail price the day the Bionic dropped! Granted she returned it in a week because of the pentile screen!

But that was the price...all Vzw's phones are up there when they release...I cant see the Nexus being sold at vzw for $529! Would be awesome...but I doubted man.

redraider1 · Oct 22, 2011

sean76 said:
Lol...that was the Retail price the day the Bionic dropped! Granted she returned it in a week because of the pentile screen!

But that was the price...all Vzw's phones are up there when they release...I cant see the Nexus being sold at vzw for $529! Would be awesome...but I doubted man.

The bionic was $589 from day one and the thunderbolt was the only one whose full retail dropped it started at $589 on launch and then like 3 days later it dropped to $569

Android26 · Oct 22, 2011

rushmore said:
NAYSAYER!!!!!!!!

Sammy did that with the SGS2 and the devices before that. Europe or At&t in the US would get the models with more flash and VZW would get the lowest versions. Sammy does it since they make more margin on the higher end models, but offer the options (sometimes for differentiation too).

I have a GalaxyS1 for AT&T and I can tell you for certain that it was ONLY offered for sale 16GB. The AT&T SGS2 is the same way. No 32GB option.

Yes, there is an SD card slot in both, like you mention. BUT, I think the point that the person you're quoting was trying to make was this:

Samsung phones that come with SD card slots are not offered with different internal memory sizes, only one. From a business standpoint, its almost nonsensical to do it both ways.

The Galaxy Nexus is already announced to have different internal sizes options. If they were going to have an SD card slot, why wouldn't they just put 16GB in the thing, forget about the 32, and just assume you'd get a SD card if you needed one?

sean76 · Oct 22, 2011

redraider1 said:
The bionic was $589 from day one and the thunderbolt was the only one whose full retail dropped it started at $589 on launch and then like 3 days later it dropped to $569

Ease up killa....I just had her check, she paid $642.35 out the door with tax...

Lol...what's the point? Its still expensive? And the Galaxy nexus is going to be around the same price or a little more!

Your forgetting something...The Nexus S went for $529, but that was not for a 4G LTE device! Vzw is charging a higher premium for 4G LTE phones...So I'd forget all about seeing this phone for the same price as the S

redraider1 · Oct 22, 2011

sean76 said:
Ease up killa....I just had her check, she paid $642.35 out the door with tax...

Lol...what's the point? Its still expensive? And the Galaxy nexus is going to be around the same price or a little more!

Your forgetting something...The Nexus S went for $529, but that was not for a 4G LTE device! Vzw is charging a higher premium for 4G LTE phones...So I'd forget all about seeing this phone for the same price as the S

You also have to take into account I am sure google has something to do with what the price of the phone will be sort of how apple says what the iphone can be sold at. I never said it would be cheaper I was just saying a possibility and how the previous nexus devices were priced.

sean76 · Oct 22, 2011

redraider1 said:
You also have to take into account I am sure google has something to do with what the price of the phone will be sort of how apple says what the iphone can be sold at. I never said it would be cheaper I was just saying a possibility and how the previous nexus devices were priced.

We'll have to wait and see in a few weeks. Right now VZW is high as a kite with they're prices lately! But that's the price u gotta pay for speed...They are after all the only ones with LTE right now. Oh well, is what it is bro...

redraider1 · Oct 22, 2011

sean76 said:
We'll have to wait and see in a few weeks. Right now VZW is high as a kite with they're prices lately! But that's the price u gotta pay for speed...They are after all the only ones with LTE right now. Oh well, is what it is bro...

Plus I would rather pay an extra $100 dollars up front rather than a 10 a month add on like sprint charges.

Deleted User · Oct 22, 2011

I suspect Verizon will end up going with the 16GB version at $299 and no 32GB option.

They're seriously pushing LTE as justification for the $299 entry point on the new LTE phones. I don't see them breaking that pattern simply due to lack of an SD slot (despite the significance to us), especially on their first Nexus phone and the first phone on the market with ICS. Even though many people here weren't overly impressed with the upgrade in spec from the SGSII, Verizon's marketing guys will still be able to sell $299 to the masses who aren't quite so spec-savvy. Sprint and AT&T still have the SGSII at $199, so Verizon will easily justify adding the extra $100 for a new "upgraded version" of that phone (again, despite the lack of SD slot).

So assuming $299 for the 16GB, a 32GB version would have to sit at $399. Except I think that's a non-starter because it puts it directly up against the 64GB iPhone 4S, which immediately highlights the disparity in capacity. (They could do $349, but I don't see them bothering to carry two versions with that small a price difference.)

Sandroidfan · Oct 22, 2011

overfloater said:
I suspect Verizon will end up going with the 16GB version at $299 and no 32GB option.

They're seriously pushing LTE as justification for the $299 entry point on the new LTE phones. I don't see them breaking that pattern simply due to lack of an SD slot (despite the significance to us), especially on their first Nexus phone and the first phone on the market with ICS. Even though many people here weren't overly impressed with the upgrade in spec from the SGSII, Verizon's marketing guys will still be able to sell $299 to the masses who aren't quite so spec-savvy. Sprint and AT&T still have the SGSII at $199, so Verizon will easily justify adding the extra $100 for a new "upgraded version" of that phone (again, despite the lack of SD slot).

So assuming $299 for the 16GB, a 32GB version would have to sit at $399. Except I think that's a non-starter because it puts it directly up against the 64GB iPhone 4S, which immediately highlights the disparity in capacity. (They could do $349, but I don't see them bothering to carry two versions with that small a price difference.)

But do you realize those $299 LTE phones have 32Gb or more total memory? $299 for 16Gb, LTE is quite a bit of increase in price/value. So I guess there will be only 32Gb version at 299.

redraider1 · Oct 22, 2011

Sandroidfan said:
But do you realize those $299 LTE phones have 32Gb or more total memory? $299 for 16Gb, LTE is quite a bit of increase in price/value. So I guess there will be only 32Gb version at 299.

Agree since they all come with an sd card preinstalled plus internal memory. I could see verizon pricing their version at$250 unless they do have a 32 gb version and then maybe could justify them putting it at $299.

rushmore · Oct 22, 2011

Sandroidfan said:
But do you realize those $299 LTE phones have 32Gb or more total memory? $299 for 16Gb, LTE is quite a bit of increase in price/value. So I guess there will be only 32Gb version at 299.

Great for Nexus buyers if correct, but seems that due to the premium display and 4460, that convention is offset. The premium display and 4460 must have a higher cost curve, so somebody has to eat the margin.

I would say, "not long to find out", but VZW was a tad vague with the "Later this year" statement. At least they said something, which is again, a minor miracle.

redraider1 · Oct 22, 2011

rushmore said:
Great for Nexus buyers if correct, but seems that due to the premium display and 4460, that convention is offset. The premium display and 4460 must have a higher cost curve, so somebody has to eat the margin.

I would say, "not long to find out", but VZW was a tad vague with the "Later this year" statement. At least they said something, which is again, a minor miracle.

For verizon to even announce it this far ahead of the supposed nov 10 launch(which could change) means that 1. they are getting many inquiries about the device or 2. they have a real reason to want to announce it ahead of time and build up some more hype. I still think that google is going to try and help off set some of the costs since lte phones are already expensive as it is.

Deleted User · Oct 22, 2011

rushmore said:
Great for Nexus buyers if correct, but seems that due to the premium display and 4460, that convention is offset. The premium display and 4460 must have a higher cost curve, so somebody has to eat the margin.

Right, that's what I'm thinking. I hope I'm wrong and that they put the 32GB at $299, because I want all the onboard capacity I can get for music storage, but I'm preparing myself for the worst. Best thing about being a pessimist is that you're rarely disappointed and sometimes pleasantly surprised.

dmodert66 · Oct 23, 2011

redraider1 said:
For verizon to even announce it this far ahead of the supposed nov 10 launch(which could change) means that 1. they are getting many inquiries about the device or 2. they have a real reason to want to announce it ahead of time and build up some more hype. I still think that google is going to try and help off set some of the costs since lte phones are already expensive as it is.

Devs have alot of Twitter followers. Some of those followers are other devs who also have alot of twitter followers. Yesterday (or maybe Thursday), Koush asked his followers to twitter and email Verizon (was very specific, do not spam, just 1 twitter and 1 email per person and gave the twitter and email addresses). I'm not saying that's what caused the announcement, but I'm sure it helped, even if in the smallest of ways...

As to the SD Card/16GB internal/32GB internal issue. My max for the phone is probably $299. If the 16GB/no SD is all I can get, I'll probably do it. Most of my media is stored on the cloud already, and while I'd rather have 32GB internal along with an SD Card Slot for $299, the benefits of this phone will lead me to pay $299 for 16GB/no SD card slot. Just my 2 cents.

rushmore · Oct 25, 2011

overfloater said:
Right, that's what I'm thinking. I hope I'm wrong and that they put the 32GB at $299, because I want all the onboard capacity I can get for music storage, but I'm preparing myself for the worst. Best thing about being a pessimist is that you're rarely disappointed and sometimes pleasantly surprised.

Kind of like me too. All Sammy had to do was put the sd slot in the device and they would have even more sales than they are going to have without one (and no threads about it in every forum about the Nexus). If Google dictated design, maybe no option to do so.

The slot was the "decider" for me and others on the Razr. My guess is a lot those folks would choose the Nexus as I would- with the slot (need it). All that said, NEITHER device is a shoe in for me, since will wait to see how the dust settles and people get their new toy pixie dust cleared from their eyes

Need to know, call reception, battery life, stability, heat level, performance. NOT jumping on first day as have done in the past. Two weeks and THEN I will fire the weapon

Added:

Might not even end up getting the Razr and waiting next year- if device has issues. Motocast is nice though

Crashumbc · Oct 25, 2011

rushmore said:
Kind of like me too. All Sammy had to do was put the sd slot in the device and they would have even more sales than they are going to have without one (and no threads about it in every forum about the Nexus). If Google dictated design, maybe no option to do so.

The slot was the "decider" for me and others on the Razr. My guess is a lot those folks would choose the Nexus as I would- with the slot (need it). All that said, NEITHER device is a shoe in for me, since will wait to see how the dust settles and people get their new toy pixie dust cleared from their eyes

Need to know, call reception, battery life, stability, heat level, performance. NOT jumping on first day as have done in the past. Two weeks and THEN I will fire the weapon

Added:

Might not even end up getting the Razr and waiting next year- if device has issues. Motocast is nice though

GN - no SD slot
RAZR - non-removable battery
VIGOR - ??? (any news would be good at this point)

rushmore · Oct 25, 2011

Not heard much about the Vigor, but would be ironic if it is the dark horse, since little mention of it and all focus on Nexus & Razr.

sean76 · Oct 25, 2011

rushmore said:
Kind of like me too. All Sammy had to do was put the sd slot in the device and they would have even more sales than they are going to have without one (and no threads about it in every forum about the Nexus). If Google dictated design, maybe no option to do so.

The slot was the "decider" for me and others on the Razr. My guess is a lot those folks would choose the Nexus as I would- with the slot (need it). All that said, NEITHER device is a shoe in for me, since will wait to see how the dust settles and people get their new toy pixie dust cleared from their eyes

Need to know, call reception, battery life, stability, heat level, performance. NOT jumping on first day as have done in the past. Two weeks and THEN I will fire the weapon

Added:

Might not even end up getting the Razr and waiting next year- if device has issues. Motocast is nice though

What he just said...

Braxos · Oct 25, 2011

Normal version will have 16 and the lte version 32gb same as Note.

Edit: Note has a Sd slot

Crashumbc · Oct 25, 2011

rushmore said:
Not heard much about the Vigor, but would be ironic if it is the dark horse, since little mention of it and all focus on Nexus & Razr.

technically its called the "rezound" but everyone hates the name and refuses to use it

Maybe the Galaxy Nexus does have an SD slot

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