[International / GSM] root/roms/recoveries/bootloaders on Samsung devices ?s

rexdog1888 · Oct 21, 2011

I have questions about root/roms/recoveries/bootloaders on Samsung devices(or more specificaly the Galaxy Nexus)
I have only had motorola and HTC devices in the past and both have handled things differently(rsdlite/hboot[pg05img]). I was wondering if someone could make a thread about how all of this works on Samsung devices.
Also rooting on a Nexus device is supposed to be very easy, right? Could someone explain how it is usually achieved and a usual time frame?

EDIT:Sorry i didnt post it here originally, didnt realise the all things root section was open yet, they're no other posts

trophynuts · Oct 21, 2011

i recommend you read through this thread for the Nexus S it will be similar

Nexus S - All Things Root - Android Forums

B2L · Oct 21, 2011

rexdog1888 said:
I have questions about root/roms/recoveries/bootloaders on Samsung devices(or more specificaly the Galaxy Nexus)
I have only had motorola and HTC devices in the past and both have handled things differently(rsdlite/hboot[pg05img]). I was wondering if someone could make a thread about how all of this works on Samsung devices.
Also rooting on a Nexus device is supposed to be very easy, right? Could someone explain how it is usually achieved and a usual time frame?

EDIT:Sorry i didnt post it here originally, didnt realise the all things root section was open yet, they're no other posts

It's quite easy as long as you have basic computer knowledge. Not quite as easy as most devices that have one click root, but it's as simple as setting up ADB, unlocking the bootloader, flashing Superuser, and flashing a custom recovery image. The only things that were hard/confusing for rooting the Nexus S was installing the drivers from the SDK, and stopping the phone from uninstalling the custom recovery on boot. (Which really weren't that hard at all.)

Other than One Click Root methods, it really couldn't be easier.

burntorangefan · Oct 21, 2011

B2L said:
It's quite easy as long as you have basic computer knowledge. Not quite as easy as most devices that have one click root, but it's as simple as setting up ADB, unlocking the bootloader, flashing Superuser, and flashing a custom recovery image. The only things that were hard/confusing for rooting the Nexus S was installing the drivers from the SDK, and stopping the phone from uninstalling the custom recovery on boot. (Which really weren't that hard at all.)

Other than One Click Root methods, it really couldn't be easier.

Agree, the hardest part of rooting any phone, regardless of manufacturer IMO is setting up the SDK and ADB. Took me like 3 or 4 hours to get everything done correctly and about 15 minutes to actually root most of the phones I've rooted.

rexdog1888 · Oct 21, 2011

Oh then that's awesome. I've had adb set up since the droid1 days.

dmodert66 · Oct 23, 2011

rexdog1888 said:
Oh then that's awesome. I've had adb set up since the droid1 days.

Same here. Going to give custom themeing a tray again on Galaxy Nexus (made quite a bit of progress with my Lakers theme on the D1, but tired of it after a while. I had fun learning how to do it all though (not using themeing sofware, doing it by hand in photoshop, editing files, pushing files, etc).

It will also be interesting to see some of the ICS roms that the devs come up with!

rexdog1888 · Oct 24, 2011

I've been interested in getting into themeing, got any tips?

trophynuts · Oct 24, 2011

rexdog1888 said:
I've been interested in getting into themeing, got any tips?

https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AcdxIJRSH9ypZGZzc2pxNDlfMjdnazk4OHNxZA&hl=en_US

good luck...

that is a guide i found over a year ago. I'm not sure how up to date it is...i gave up half way through it. I'm on a MAC and its missing a lot of info i need on how to set things up. You may want to search around for a newer guide possibly

VoidedSaint · Oct 24, 2011

dmodert66 said:
Same here. Going to give custom themeing a tray again on Galaxy Nexus (made quite a bit of progress with my Lakers theme on the D1, but tired of it after a while. I had fun learning how to do it all though (not using themeing sofware, doing it by hand in photoshop, editing files, pushing files, etc).

It will also be interesting to see some of the ICS roms that the devs come up with!

rexdog1888 said:
I've been interested in getting into themeing, got any tips?

themes is very challenging to learn, but once you learn them, its kinda simple

the .9's are the biggest pain in the but, and if you get into themes, myself and bouchigo will gladly lend some words of wisdom, let it be known bouchigo knows more about it than i do, i go to him for help on numerous occasions, and i will be looking to bring Rogue Cell X back once the new phone is out, and we can get prepared for it with some roms, but i may run stock for quite a while and just enjoy it

trophynuts · Oct 24, 2011

i want to contribute more to the android community as well but man its hard to find some up to date info on learning the process.

VoidedSaint · Oct 24, 2011

you already provide enough help with what you do!

tsargent347 · Oct 24, 2011

Since someone mentioned adb in this thread how do you set it up? and is it the same for everyphone such as a moto and a samsung? or do you have to set up different adb's? ive only rooted with one click root options on my phones

trophynuts · Oct 24, 2011

VoidedSaint said:
you already provide enough help with what you do!

Thx...but i would like to get my hands dirty also on some roms/themes/mods or something

yohobojo · Oct 24, 2011

Hardest part for me. Actually being able to afford the phone =P

zanoodi · Oct 24, 2011

Trophynuts, I noticed you said you use a Mac. I assume there are Mac equivalents to the programs you mentioned, or do you use Windows on the Mac through bootcamp or some virtual alternative?

iowabowtech · Nov 1, 2011

This is a very diluted explanation, but I believe it will work similar to this:

Install SDK
Install fastboot for Win/Linux/Mac depending on your setup
CMD prompt > fastboot oem unlock
CMD prompt > fastboot flash recovery.img (Clockwork I assume)
Use Clockwork to flash SU or could fastboot install
Flash rom via Clockwork once a working rom is available

VoidedSaint · Nov 3, 2011

i dont think i will be flashing any roms for quite some time, i would like to get to know the system better since i am a guide, and parts of my job are to help others, and i like to provide enough useful information to help others out as much as possible, so until then

rexdog1888 · Nov 5, 2011

One quick ?: On the nexus i plan to root but stay stock at first but im going to assume that their will be a few updates right after the phone comes out(new os, new issues), my ? is: how can i accept ota updates with a custom recovery(on the tbolt its not possible) or can unlock, flash recovery, flash su, remove recovery and keep root?

I think that made sense but im not sure.

dmodert66 · Nov 5, 2011

rexdog1888 said:
One quick ?: On the nexus i plan to root but stay stock at first but im going to assume that their will be a few updates right after the phone comes out(new os, new issues), my ? is: how can i accept ota updates with a custom recovery(on the tbolt its not possible) or can unlock, flash recovery, flash su, remove recovery and keep root?

I think that made sense but im not sure.

For a phone like this, we should see rooted updates within a day or 2. So if already rooted, I would just go that route.

On some phones, you can still update while rooted, but you loose root. You would then need to wait for root for that update, then root again.

Lastly, if the root blocks the update (like with custom roms), you would likely need to RSD back to the original OS, then update. Sorry about using the term RSD, I think that is specific to Moto phones, but that's all I've used. I'm not sure what it's called on Samsung phones, but basically you would be putting your phone back to stock via ADB and a program to do as mentioned.

xliderider · Nov 24, 2011

dmodert66 said:
Lastly, if the root blocks the update (like with custom roms), you would likely need to RSD back to the original OS, then update. Sorry about using the term RSD, I think that is specific to Moto phones, but that's all I've used. I'm not sure what it's called on Samsung phones...

The RSD/.sbf equivalent for Samsung is Odin/.tar, you flash .tar files using the utility Odin.

VoidedSaint · Nov 24, 2011

yeah i been utilizing this on my sisters captivate, its not quite the same, i cannot see the cwr so i kinda gave up on it, thinkin i was doing something completely wrong lol

xliderider · Nov 24, 2011

Flashing the .tar files just gets the rom flashed, unless you are flashing the cwr .tar file.

VoidedSaint · Nov 25, 2011

well i had to use root recovery to place some kind of file within something (a lot of help huh

) and no matter what it would install, however, once you push a button it disappears, and even sometimes you would get the awkward lines of different colors that would remind you of a rainbow. so yeah not to keen on it right now

i wonder if i wait will moto be the next nexus, and will it come back to verizon again......?

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