Swype avail for Eris

lbidaytripper · Feb 10, 2010

HELP!! I just d/led swype and it messed up my phone hardcore. I just got the phone last week and have been d/ling a bunch of apps and trying them out. just d/led swype tonight and followed everyones instructions on here and when i rebooted the phone, a ton of things force closed upon startup. i am on the Sense home screen now and my phone app wont even work (it says no service at the top and force closes everytime i try to call someone)

please please please somebody help!

bberryhill0 · Feb 10, 2010

It's prolly one of the tons of programs that force closed not Swype. Add apps one at a time.

lbidaytripper · Feb 10, 2010

I figured it out it was loopt that was conflicting with swype. I wasn't downloading a bunch of apps at once either I was downloading them one at a time but when I rebooted everything went screwy so I uninstalled everything I downloaded before swype and everything was cool again

pkopalek · Feb 10, 2010

This happens when you have too many apps installed, in general.

Go home and hit Menu > Settings > Applications > Manage Applications > Browser > Clear Cache, to save yourself a few MB.

Uninstall apps that you don't use like sound boards or icon sets.

I will almost guarantee Swype didn't mess anything up. It's the fact that you have too much in your memory. If you go Menu > Settings > SD Card and phone storage > look at 'Available Space' on your phone internal memory, at the bottom.

The last time I had huge crashing like this, my phone had like 26MB left.

Now, I keep it above 50. I'm guessing the phone temporarily uses that space when starting up, or needs a certain amount there for some reason, and if you don't have it, all your Google apps force close, Location isn't on, you have 0 bars, even Dialer won't open.

A lot of us have been there.

You just have too much stuff installed.

I promise.

Menu > Settings > Applications > Manage apps > Uninstall some apps that you don't use, clear Browser's cache, clear Album's cache. Your phone will be fine.

lbidaytripper · Feb 10, 2010

hey thanks for the help and the tip it is much appreciated I am a little puzzled with this phone. I have less than fifty apps I didn't think that would be a lot. why do all these apps run automatically? shouldn't the phone be smart enough to allocate its resources a little better to prevent that kind of crash at start up? really confused

pkopalek · Feb 10, 2010

Some will run automatically, if they're either set to in their Settings, or just because they are installed.

I use a Task Manager, (something like Advanced Task Killer or TasKiller Free), to Kill All of them as soon as my phone starts up. They could be running, but the processes could be taking almost 0 resources.

Either way, those resources that the running apps take up are RAM. What you're running out of is 'ROM' (misnamed). It's where I described in Settings > SD Card and Phone storage.

You can have 2 apps. If the apps are 20MB each, or have HUGE caches, they can take up as much space as 20 apps or 200 apps. It's not about how many. It's about how much space. Some apps are just 50-100k. Some apps are 5-10MB. Pay attention, before you download them in Market.

I would make sure I have 40MB free space. I don't know what the low limit is there, but that's what I'd do.

My point kind of was, more importantly, that Swype probably isn't your problem. It DOES store a lot of data (I don't know if it calls it cache or data), and gets big (10mb++) because it learns your swyping. So it can act like you installed 10 more apps (in terms of how much space it takes up). Same with Browser, which is why I suggested to clear the cache from Browser.

elliot46 · Feb 10, 2010

Are there more than one version available for our phone? I installed the original apk but I don't know if it's different from the one at Swype for HVGA Devices - *updated* | IQ0: News, Chat, Life ...

Also - how do I make the keyboard disappear? With the OEM keyboard, I'd hit the bottom-left button.. With swype, I hit the bottom-left button and it gives me tips or a tutorial. Thanks.

Edit: Realized the file sizes are the same, so I assume it's the same version.

NPH- · Feb 10, 2010

man... this is hard to get use to

i keep on losing track of what letters i am "swyping" because I cant see them....

anyone have any tips on how to improve this???

lbidaytripper · Feb 10, 2010

pkopalek said:
Some will run automatically, if they're either set to in their Settings, or just because they are installed.

I use a Task Manager, (something like Advanced Task Killer or TasKiller Free), to Kill All of them as soon as my phone starts up. They could be running, but the processes could be taking almost 0 resources.

Either way, those resources that the running apps take up are RAM. What you're running out of is 'ROM' (misnamed). It's where I described in Settings > SD Card and Phone storage.

You can have 2 apps. If the apps are 20MB each, or have HUGE caches, they can take up as much space as 20 apps or 200 apps. It's not about how many. It's about how much space. Some apps are just 50-100k. Some apps are 5-10MB. Pay attention, before you download them in Market.

I would make sure I have 40MB free space. I don't know what the low limit is there, but that's what I'd do.

My point kind of was, more importantly, that Swype probably isn't your problem. It DOES store a lot of data (I don't know if it calls it cache or data), and gets big (10mb++) because it learns your swyping. So it can act like you installed 10 more apps (in terms of how much space it takes up). Same with Browser, which is why I suggested to clear the cache from Browser.

ok that clears it up much better for me thank you. i cleared my cache and i do have ATK but i have been hesitant using it because of all the bad threads about it hurting your phone (what is your take on it?) i also downloaded ATM (the free one) but im not sure how it works yet. do you use that one at all?

lbidaytripper · Feb 10, 2010

elliot46 said:
Are there more than one version available for our phone? I installed the original apk but I don't know if it's different from the one at Swype for HVGA Devices - *updated* | IQ0: News, Chat, Life ...

Also - how do I make the keyboard disappear? With the OEM keyboard, I'd hit the bottom-left button.. With swype, I hit the bottom-left button and it gives me tips or a tutorial. Thanks.

Edit: Realized the file sizes are the same, so I assume it's the same version.

to make the keyboard disappear, hit the back button. that works for me

lbidaytripper · Feb 10, 2010

NPH- said:
man... this is hard to get use to

i keep on losing track of what letters i am "swyping" because I cant see them....

anyone have any tips on how to improve this???

you could invest in a stylus pen. i think they are pretty cheap and that would do the trick if you cant get it right with just your fingers

pkopalek · Feb 10, 2010

lbidaytripper said:
to make the keyboard disappear, hit the back button. that works for me

Or just long press the Menu button. That will always show/hide the keyboard.

pkopalek · Feb 10, 2010

elliot46 said:
Are there more than one version available for our phone? I installed the original apk but I don't know if it's different from the one at Swype for HVGA Devices - *updated* | IQ0: News, Chat, Life ...

Also - how do I make the keyboard disappear? With the OEM keyboard, I'd hit the bottom-left button.. With swype, I hit the bottom-left button and it gives me tips or a tutorial. Thanks.

Edit: Realized the file sizes are the same, so I assume it's the same version.

The notes seem to indicate that the "new" version relates to fixing it for a couple of phones it wouldn't really work/install on.

hybridowner · Feb 10, 2010

There's a new update that is much more stable and enhanced than the original beta that works on the Eris. You don't have to disable sound, keyboard layout is better, there is an editing keyboard, the dictionary is more stable and actually adds words and recalls them. Search xda swype eris and go to about page 12 of the thread to find a link to a rapidshare download (I hate rapidshare). There is still the problem that you can't remove icons and widgets from the lower half of any sense home screens with swype enabled, but just disable swipe if you need to remove or move anything that is on the lower half of any home screen. That's my experience anyway. This is the killer app for capacitive screen text input!

droidkevlar · Feb 10, 2010

hybridowner said:
There's a new update that is much more stable and enhanced than the original beta that works on the Eris. You don't have to disable sound, keyboard layout is better, there is an editing keyboard, the dictionary is more stable and actually adds words and recalls them. Search xda swype eris and go to about page 12 of the thread to find a link to a rapidshare download (I hate rapidshare). There is still the problem that you can't remove icons and widgets from the lower half of any sense home screens with swype enabled, but just disable swipe if you need to remove or move anything that is on the lower half of any home screen. That's my experience anyway. This is the killer app for capacitive screen text input!

Thanks for the update. I will update my post to reflect the file size people should be searching for from now on since its 7MB instead of 2MB. This way it helps people know which is newer.

downloaded and waiting to install after uninstall and reboot (just to be safe)

qbot · Feb 10, 2010

Newbie here. Can you post a quick how-to on uninstalling the old swype and installing the new one?

pkopalek · Feb 10, 2010

Someone probably had it installed and used an Application Back-Up feature (like from ES File Explorer or something), and has all that user's stored Swype data.

I bet the program's only a little bigger than the old one.

droidkevlar · Feb 10, 2010

qbot said:
Newbie here. Can you post a quick how-to on uninstalling the old swype and installing the new one?

Settings -> Applications -> Manage applications and find swype. Click it and hit uninstall. I rebooted after this as well. Again, not needed but I just did it.

pkopalek · Feb 10, 2010

Use ES File Explorer or Quick Uninstall or Astro File Manager or something that can uninstall, or just Settings > Applications > Manage Applications, find Swype, and uninstall it.

droidkevlar · Feb 10, 2010

pkopalek said:
Someone probably had it installed and used an Application Back-Up feature (like from ES File Explorer or something), and has all that user's stored Swype data.

I bet the program's only a little bigger than the old one.

Dont think so. Using audio and it not FCing and I believe the keyboard is bigger now too from looking at it.

hybridowner · Feb 10, 2010

The program is much bigger, over 8 MB with over 4 MB of data on top of that. But it works much better. I've also read that users believe there is less battery drain too, and so far in my limited use of the updated version I would concur with that. Much better overall!

jaybigboy34 · Feb 10, 2010

i cant find the new version. can someone pm me the link.

thanks

droidkevlar · Feb 10, 2010

jaybigboy34 said:
i cant find the new version. can someone pm me the link.

thanks

Look at the first post on what to google for. That is what I did and found it with no problems. Only issues I had was that the link was rapidshare and had to wait a little bit. I would send you the link in PM, but cleared cache and too lazy to search again, sorry.

jenzziim · Feb 10, 2010

jaybigboy34 said:
i cant find the new version. can someone pm me the link.

thanks

I am with you or just being blonde...can't find the update either..

droidkevlar · Feb 10, 2010

I changed my first post again to reflect what makes it even easier to find. Ill be nice and Pm you guys though.

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