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This or the droid razr?

Same issue here with choosing...

However, with the Rezound it's going to come down to 3 things IMO

Size? If it really feels good in the hand and not as think and heavy as it looks, I'll give it a hard look!

Battery? Jeez HTC, why? Don't you guys get it by now? Have you learned nothing the last 2 years. That battery is laughable. If its no better then the TB they can keep it.

Screen and Build Quality? HTC makes a pretty decent phone, however they usually can't glue down screens and light leakage usually ends up rearing its ugly head. If they nailed it this time and things look as beautiful as they should on that 720p resolution screen...I will 100% give it a look.

Those 3 things pan out, and I would most likely pick it over the Razr.

Why?

Because I use my camera phone a ton, and right now HTC is putting kick ass cameras in they're phones, and the thought of a kick ass camera being used on a 720p resolution screen is something that fits my need quite well. Also viewing the web will probably be a wonderful experience on the Rezound as well.

This phone is deff going to be on more peoples radars then it was 2 weeks ago.

Vzw customers have alot to choose from right now...That's a good thing!
 
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I wish HTC did not bother with Beats (they are bass blown, average sounding and overpriced) and use that money from the branding and material costs towards a BETTER LTE CHIP.

Though my position ATM is a "wait and see" on both, here IMO is the good & bad of both devices (both seem just as fast in speed BTW).

Razr good = Build, easy access microsd
Razr bad = Same radio issues as Bionic, heat, fixed battery, awkward to use with one hand unless big hands.

Rezound good = Feels better in the hand than the Razr, AMAZING display
Rezound bad = Same LTE as Thunderbolt, thicker than it needs to be (darn LTE chip) and beat branding weighs the device down with style over substance Beats.

Serious on the Beats, the Klipsch S4 for $70 blow the Beats away in every way possible (sound, build, comfort and cables do not tangle like the Beats). Of course, the Beats are "free". eBay is the best place for them buds. Added: Get the S4s with the eBay $ :)
 
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Same issue here with choosing...

However, with the Rezound it's going to come down to 3 things IMO

Size? If it really feels good in the hand and not as think and heavy as it looks, I'll give it a hard look!

Battery? Jeez HTC, why? Don't you guys get it by now? Have you learned nothing the last 2 years. That battery is laughable. If its no better then the TB they can keep it.

Screen and Build Quality? HTC makes a pretty decent phone, however they usually can't glue down screens and light leakage usually ends up rearing its ugly head. If they nailed it this time and things look as beautiful as they should on that 720p resolution screen...I will 100% give it a look.

Those 3 things pan out, and I would most likely pick it over the Razr.

Why?

Because I use my camera phone a ton, and right now HTC is putting kick ass cameras in they're phones, and the thought of a kick ass camera being used on a 720p resolution screen is something that fits my need quite well. Also viewing the web will probably be a wonderful experience on the Rezound as well.

This phone is deff going to be on more peoples radars then it was 2 weeks ago.

Vzw customers have alot to choose from right now...That's a good thing!


I had an Incredible and have a Thunderbolt, now. I have had numerous annoyances and issues with these phones. I love Sense and I really like HTC, but I doubt that I'm going to give them another chance to disappoint me.

Both the Incredible and the Thunderbolt did feel very good in the hand and the Rezound will probably be a great phone to hold, though it will be thick and heavy. If history is any indication, this phone will feel great in hand.

The battery is going to be terrible. If they really did use the same LTE for this... oh man, it can't be saved. With my lat two HTC devices I have had to nearly cripple them or stay near a power source to make it though a work day (between 10 and 12 hours, generally) and that is with the phone being mostly inactive. I have absolutely no faith in this phone when it comes to the battery.

Light leakage aside, the build quality feels good of most of the HTC phones. They are built like tanks, but not everyone wants that. Sometimes I want something compact and light. Sometimes I want to be able to put my phone in my pocket. The screen probably won't be any more spectacular than that of the GNex and once more people start shipping 720 phones, it probably won't seem that awesome at all. It is better than the Razr, but I doubt it'll do much competing with other upcoming phones with similar screen specs.

The Beats deal does nothing for me and TBH, the camera is just so/so. The Incredible had a camera that was worse than my Voyager (8mp vs 2mp). The Thunderbolt takes much better pictures, but the flash washes a lot of stuff out. It's hard to say that these cameras are "good". I could get a sub 100 dollar point and shoot that takes better pictures, easily.
 
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I wish HTC did not bother with Beats (they are bass blown, average sounding and overpriced) and use that money from the branding and material costs towards a BETTER LTE CHIP.

Though my position ATM is a "wait and see" on both, here IMO is the good & bad of both devices (both seem just as fast in speed BTW).

Razr good = Build, easy access microsd
Razr bad = Same radio issues as Bionic, heat, fixed battery, awkward to use with one hand unless big hands.

Rezound good = Feels better in the hand than the Razr, AMAZING display
Rezound bad = Same LTE as Thunderbolt, thicker than it needs to be (darn LTE chip) and beat branding weighs the device down with style over substance Beats.

Serious on the Beats, the Klipsch S4 for $70 blow the Beats away in every way possible (sound, build, comfort and cables do not tangle like the Beats). Of course, the Beats are "free". eBay is the best place for them buds. Added: Get the S4s with the eBay $ :)



As I mentioned before, I have the S4s which I agree I love, but one question I have for you, do you notice the sound of the cord rubbing on your clothes carries through to the earphone and actually seems to distort the music a bit? I found that kind of odd since at first I thought the distortion was within my music file itself. /thread jack


As far as all phones in question, I keep looking at them and I'm running into the same dilemma. For me this is what I've broken it down to...

Razr

Pros: Lightweight, great looking screen (at least my experience compared to the Thunderbolt and watching a 720p video from Youtube), slim design, sd card access that doesn't require you to remove the battery.

Cons: You CAN'T remove the battery, dual core speeds is slower than the Rezound, screen resolution is a little less than the other 2, Motorola camera reputation isn't the best.


Rezound

Pros: faster processor than the GN and Razr, better video than the both (on paper at least), Beats if you believe the hype (although someone posted that the combination of the Beats earphones and the phone itself make for some great sounding audio), battery that can be removed and a slot for an SD that can be removed (unlike the GN).

Cons: (This may be a bit unfair since I had the misfortune of owning a Thunderbolt) Will the Rezound have the quality issues that the Thunderbolt experienced, reboots, light leakage, power button that recedes after a few weeks, screen that has the specs behind it but has bland color and contrast, HTC's questionable refurbished practices should I need to return the phone, styling that doesn't differentiate the phone from previous HTC phones (see Thunderbolt), red trim that may look a little like that Caprice that's always bumping loud music with the accessorized red-trimmed 22" wheels that's driving slow through the neighborhood, and finally will dual core save HTC's battery woes?


Galaxy Nexus (to be honest I know less about this phone than the other 2 because it just doesn't peak my interest)

Pros: ICS out of the box, unique curved design, a pure google phone. (told you I didn't have much)

Cons: Online order only so no checking it out at the store, no removable SD card, other than the curve of the phone the styling is really bland, especially looking at it from the front.



The more I see these phones the more I feel like it's the Android manufacturers' version of the iPhone 4S, just short enough of the mark in enough areas to make you want to wait for the next wave of phones. The biggest dilemma for me right now is my Thunderbolt's screen is dying so do I jump on the Rezound so I can have a phone that actually works, do I jump on the Razr since there's no reason to give HTC my business at this point, do I wait for the Galaxy Nexus even though there's nothing I find spectacular about it? Decisions, decisions. Maybe I'll just flip a coin, if I can find a 4 sided one....
 
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Does the rezound have led notification lights?

I saw this pic and wondering if thats the led light.

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As far as what I have read, the light leakage only affected the Thunderbolt. Neither of my Incredible's had it, and I don't recall any other HTC phones reportedly having it.

The camera is kinda a whole new animal compared to the previous HTC phones. It has a higher quality sensor (better low light) and lens (f 2.2), and the software has also been updated to minimize lag and add options like burst shooting & slo-mo for video. So comparing it to the Inc1's camera isn't really going to be indicative of the Rezounds performance here.

As far as size and weight, the reviewers and people who have already received their phones say it's around the same size as the Tbolt, but lighter, not heavier. The only real difference in size is it is not as wide as the Tbolt, but more like to Droid X.

As far as screen, most reviewers have said it is the best screen they have seen on a mobile device, so no washed out picture like some of the Tbolts had.
 
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As I mentioned before, I have the S4s which I agree I love, but one question I have for you, do you notice the sound of the cord rubbing on your clothes carries through to the earphone and actually seems to distort the music a bit? I found that kind of odd since at first I thought the distortion was within my music file itself. /thread jack


As far as all phones in question, I keep looking at them and I'm running into the same dilemma. For me this is what I've broken it down to...

Razr

Pros: Lightweight, great looking screen (at least my experience compared to the Thunderbolt and watching a 720p video from Youtube), slim design, sd card access that doesn't require you to remove the battery.

Cons: You CAN'T remove the battery, dual core speeds is slower than the Rezound, screen resolution is a little less than the other 2, Motorola camera reputation isn't the best.


Rezound

Pros: faster processor than the GN and Razr, better video than the both (on paper at least), Beats if you believe the hype (although someone posted that the combination of the Beats earphones and the phone itself make for some great sounding audio), battery that can be removed and a slot for an SD that can be removed (unlike the GN).

Cons: (This may be a bit unfair since I had the misfortune of owning a Thunderbolt) Will the Rezound have the quality issues that the Thunderbolt experienced, reboots, light leakage, power button that recedes after a few weeks, screen that has the specs behind it but has bland color and contrast, HTC's questionable refurbished practices should I need to return the phone, styling that doesn't differentiate the phone from previous HTC phones (see Thunderbolt), red trim that may look a little like that Caprice that's always bumping loud music with the accessorized red-trimmed 22" wheels that's driving slow through the neighborhood, and finally will dual core save HTC's battery woes?


Galaxy Nexus (to be honest I know less about this phone than the other 2 because it just doesn't peak my interest)

Pros: ICS out of the box, unique curved design, a pure google phone. (told you I didn't have much)

Cons: Online order only so no checking it out at the store, no removable SD card, other than the curve of the phone the styling is really bland, especially looking at it from the front.



The more I see these phones the more I feel like it's the Android manufacturers' version of the iPhone 4S, just short enough of the mark in enough areas to make you want to wait for the next wave of phones. The biggest dilemma for me right now is my Thunderbolt's screen is dying so do I jump on the Rezound so I can have a phone that actually works, do I jump on the Razr since there's no reason to give HTC my business at this point, do I wait for the Galaxy Nexus even though there's nothing I find spectacular about it? Decisions, decisions. Maybe I'll just flip a coin, if I can find a 4 sided one....


You forgot to mention that the Rezound actually has a 720p screen, unlike the razr
 
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You forgot to mention that the Rezound actually has a 720p screen, unlike the razr


The reason I didn't touch on that is because I'm still unsure how well the Rezound's video will look compared to the Razr. I've compared the Razr's video playback to that of the Thunderbolt and while the Razr is supposed to be slighty better than the Thunderbolt, the side by side comparison was night and day. I'm hoping HTC has improved their display's sharpness, color, and contrast over that of the Thunderbolt, if not then they could be 2160p for all I care and it's still going to look faded and worn.
 
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This one's the most comprehensive chart I've found when comparing the phones.

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I think it's funny how the iPhone is near the bottom in most all the hardware stats yet probably outsells all the phones. Please no "fanboi" rebuttal, that was merely an observation. The whole, "iPhone users are sheep" is so played out.
 
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As I mentioned before, I have the S4s which I agree I love, but one question I have for you, do you notice the sound of the cord rubbing on your clothes carries through to the earphone and actually seems to distort the music a bit? I found that kind of odd since at first I thought the distortion was within my music file itself. /thread jack


As far as all phones in question, I keep looking at them and I'm running into the same dilemma. For me this is what I've broken it down to...

Razr

Pros: Lightweight, great looking screen (at least my experience compared to the Thunderbolt and watching a 720p video from Youtube), slim design, sd card access that doesn't require you to remove the battery.

Cons: You CAN'T remove the battery, dual core speeds is slower than the Rezound, screen resolution is a little less than the other 2, Motorola camera reputation isn't the best.


Rezound

Pros: faster processor than the GN and Razr, better video than the both (on paper at least), Beats if you believe the hype (although someone posted that the combination of the Beats earphones and the phone itself make for some great sounding audio), battery that can be removed and a slot for an SD that can be removed (unlike the GN).

Cons: (This may be a bit unfair since I had the misfortune of owning a Thunderbolt) Will the Rezound have the quality issues that the Thunderbolt experienced, reboots, light leakage, power button that recedes after a few weeks, screen that has the specs behind it but has bland color and contrast, HTC's questionable refurbished practices should I need to return the phone, styling that doesn't differentiate the phone from previous HTC phones (see Thunderbolt), red trim that may look a little like that Caprice that's always bumping loud music with the accessorized red-trimmed 22" wheels that's driving slow through the neighborhood, and finally will dual core save HTC's battery woes?


Galaxy Nexus (to be honest I know less about this phone than the other 2 because it just doesn't peak my interest)

Pros: ICS out of the box, unique curved design, a pure google phone. (told you I didn't have much)

Cons: Online order only so no checking it out at the store, no removable SD card, other than the curve of the phone the styling is really bland, especially looking at it from the front.



The more I see these phones the more I feel like it's the Android manufacturers' version of the iPhone 4S, just short enough of the mark in enough areas to make you want to wait for the next wave of phones. The biggest dilemma for me right now is my Thunderbolt's screen is dying so do I jump on the Rezound so I can have a phone that actually works, do I jump on the Razr since there's no reason to give HTC my business at this point, do I wait for the Galaxy Nexus even though there's nothing I find spectacular about it? Decisions, decisions. Maybe I'll just flip a coin, if I can find a 4 sided one....

I was under the impression that the snapdragon processor was a generation behind of the OMAPs used. So the 1.5ghz is really not more powerful then the 1.2ghz OMAP. Anybody else care to comment on that?
 
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I was under the impression that the snapdragon processor was a generation behind of the OMAPs used. So the 1.5ghz is really not more powerful then the 1.2ghz OMAP. Anybody else care to comment on that?

I'll try. From what I can gather:

They are about the same generation...


The OMAP 4430 in the Razr is the one thats behind, the 4460 in the Nexus is better. The Snapdragon S3 in the Rezound is "older" in that it utilizes Cortex A8 tech, whereas the OMAPs are A9. However, the S3 is a custom chip that behaves nothing like normal A8 processors. I think at equal clock speeds the 4460 and S3 are about a wash (maybe the tiniest, undetectable edge to the OMAP).

However, the GPU that is on the Snapdragon 8660 S3 (in the Rezound) is the Adreno 220. This, from what I've read, is significantly better than the Power VR SGX540 in the Razr and Nexus...
 
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I'll try. From what I can gather:

They are about the same generation...


The OMAP 4430 in the Razr is the one thats behind, the 4460 in the Nexus is better. The Snapdragon S3 in the Rezound is "older" in that it utilizes Cortex A8 tech, whereas the OMAPs are A9. However, the S3 is a custom chip that behaves nothing like normal A8 processors. I think at equal clock speeds the 4460 and S3 are about a wash (maybe the tiniest, undetectable edge to the OMAP).

However, the GPU that is on the Snapdragon 8660 S3 (in the Rezound) is the Adreno 220. This, from what I've read, is significantly better than the Power VR SGX540 in the Razr and Nexus...

from what i have read you are mostly correct on this. The only thing i would add is that the VR SGX540 is overclocked on the Nexus and supposedly that will even it up with the Adreno220
 
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I'll try. From what I can gather:

They are about the same generation...


The OMAP 4430 in the Razr is the one thats behind, the 4460 in the Nexus is better. The Snapdragon S3 in the Rezound is "older" in that it utilizes Cortex A8 tech, whereas the OMAPs are A9. However, the S3 is a custom chip that behaves nothing like normal A8 processors. I think at equal clock speeds the 4460 and S3 are about a wash (maybe the tiniest, undetectable edge to the OMAP).

However, the GPU that is on the Snapdragon 8660 S3 (in the Rezound) is the Adreno 220. This, from what I've read, is significantly better than the Power VR SGX540 in the Razr and Nexus...

from what i have read you are mostly correct on this. The only thing i would add is that the VR SGX540 is overclocked on the Nexus and supposedly that will even it up with the Adreno220


Now all we need is some hot blonde to break up the monotony of all this techno-speak...

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Which reminds me, if all those guys were really techno geeks, why do they all appear to own iPhones?
 
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After testing both devices, the Rezound seems like a far better device:

Display on Rezound is a LOT better than the Razr

Better camera

Runs cooler

More powerful, based on hi def Flash, N64oid and Quadrant performance

More comfortable to hold and use with one hand

IMO, the Razr's style has been trumped by Rezound's substance.
 
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