Root CIQ / HTC & Google Checkin / HTC loggers / Tell HTC Info & Removal

McLabia · Nov 14, 2011

So, for those that arent up on the news as of late, there are some MAJOR privacy concerns on our phones. Not just Bolts, nor just HTC, but almost all android phones, and even BBs have been found with this stuff. Check out this article/POC.

CarrierIQ | Android Security Test

TrevE has been rippin this stuff apart, and if you havent seen whats in here yet, Heres a sneak peak. If you dont care about what shes actually saying, just pay attention to the boobs...
Logging Test by TrevE [SassiBoB Review] - YouTube

defTwitch · Nov 16, 2011

Oh this is fun

Thanks for sharing...

defTwitch · Nov 17, 2011

surprised no one else has any input on this.

I ran it. I'd say about 60% of what it looks for is resident on my phone.

I'm not going to bother manually removing it all. At least not right now. If I decide its worth it I'd prolly just pay the dollar and be lazy and have the app do it.

I'm also not all that concerned about all this.

I'm all for transparency and applaud the work being done. I hate some of the sneakier methods companies take data and profit off it. Especially when they flat out lie about how, why, if, when, etc.

But... I realize for some companies thats the business model and they put out some great products which are free and supported by aggregating such data. And, that other companies use this data for product support and improvement.

AKA nothing this app checks for is something i find immediately alarming but it couldn't hurt to nuke it all the same. Or so it seems.

I bet a lot of people install app's that do much worse and they don't realize it. "OH SWEET... NEW FREE ZYNGA GAMES"... "read what permissions before i install"???

McLabia · Nov 17, 2011

defTwitch said:
surprised no one else has any input on this.

I ran it. I'd say about 60% of what it looks for is resident on my phone.

I'm not going to bother manually removing it all. At least not right now. If I decide its worth it I'd prolly just pay the dollar and be lazy and have the app do it.

I'm also not all that concerned about all this.

I'm all for transparency and applaud the work being done. I hate some of the sneakier methods companies take data and profit off it. Especially when they flat out lie about how, why, if, when, etc.

But... I realize for some companies thats the business model and they put out some great products which are free and supported by aggregating such data. And, that other companies use this data for product support and improvement.

AKA nothing this app checks for is something i find immediately alarming but it couldn't hurt to nuke it all the same. Or so it seems.

I bet a lot of people install app's that do much worse and they don't realize it. "OH SWEET... NEW FREE ZYNGA GAMES"... "read what permissions before i install"???

Have you read more into what Trev has done? It's a lot more serious to me. Your phones basically an rfid chip that keeps its own logs and sends them to others. There's a lot more to this, but it's also something I'm surprised more people haven't said anything about.

Then again, I wonder how many actually understand what it means. /takes off tin foil hat

PoweredByLE5 · Nov 18, 2011

its the gov keeping tabs on all of us, duh

McLabia · Nov 18, 2011

PoweredByLE5 said:
its the gov keeping tabs on all of us, duh

Well, considering this started on a sprint phone and the government has stakes in sprint, and the feds were buying Nextel... No tin foil hat needed.

McLabia · Nov 18, 2011

Judge Rules Law Enforcement Must Have a Warrant To Access Your Location Data http://phandroid.com/?p=73426

Yet another reason it matters. Warrant or no warrant.

scotty85 · Nov 18, 2011

McLabia said:
If you dont care about what shes actually saying, just pay attention to the boobs...

Pay attention to what? You mean she was talking? :eek:

Seriously,there prolly hasn't been much comment cause we had similar discussions not too long ago. I personally donated to trevE for his effforts in digging this up.

This is definately why I root my phones and run custom firmware.

defTwitch · Nov 18, 2011

scotty85 said:
Pay attention to what? You mean she was talking?

Seriously,there prolly hasn't been much comment cause we had similar discussions not too long ago. I personally donated to trevE for his effforts in digging this up.

This is definately why I root my phones and run custom firmware.

I guess I missed those other discussions.

Gonna watch this video a few more times and then go search for them

scotty85 · Nov 18, 2011

http://androidforums.com/thunderbolt-all-things-root/422720-htc-really-really-screwed-up.html

yeah. ima watch it a few more times as well. and follow on twitter

digdug1 · Nov 18, 2011

Ok I just watched it with the volume down. ALL the way down lol. Nice rack but she's really annoying

McLabia · Nov 18, 2011

digdug1 said:
Ok I just watched it with the volume down. ALL the way down lol. Nice rack but she's really annoying

I concur. Lol. Great rack, but she's one of those chicks that should be seen and not heard if you know what I mean. Lol.

PoweredByLE5 · Nov 19, 2011

McLabia said:
Well, considering this started on a sprint phone and the government has stakes in sprint, and the feds were buying Nextel... No tin foil hat needed.

damn...

McLabia said:
Judge Rules Law Enforcement Must Have a Warrant To Access Your Location Data Judge Rules Law Enforcement Must Have a Warrant To Access Your Location Data

Yet another reason it matters. Warrant or no warrant.

Must have warrant? BULLLLL! If law enforcement wants to know something they will find out. Law enforcement does whatever they want and they call it probable cause. They have a device now they attach to your phone to copy all your data if they find "probable cause." But that's nothing. I wouldn't be worried about law enforcement checking up on your location. I'd be more worried about big brother gov watching. Watch Jesse Ventura, you'll see. And you think facebook is bad? (for those that don't know facebook was seceretly taken over by the gov to keep tabs on everyone and to know what everyone is doing at all times and where they are hence the check in feature) google is KING of snooping and privacy invasion. It's the worst. So actually it really isn't surprising our phones have all this snoop software. Hey I don't make this stuff up. Everything I stated here can all be backed up just google it. lol thats ironic

p.s. don't think they dont use onstar to see where you drive cause they do and they listen in on ur convos despite their clause stating they would never do that. they were exposed on the snooping not too long ago.

p.p.s boxxy moment @ 1:47 on vid lmao

McLabia · Nov 19, 2011

PoweredByLE5 said:
damn...

Must have warrant? BULLLLL! If law enforcement wants to know something they will find out. Law enforcement does whatever they want and they call it probable cause. They have a device now they attach to your phone to copy all your data if they find "probable cause." But that's nothing. I wouldn't be worried about law enforcement checking up on your location. I'd be more worried about big brother gov watching. Watch Jesse Ventura, you'll see. And you think facebook is bad? (for those that don't know facebook was seceretly taken over by the gov to keep tabs on everyone and to know what everyone is doing at all times and where they are hence the check in feature) google is KING of snooping and privacy invasion. It's the worst. So actually it really isn't surprising our phones have all this snoop software. Hey I don't make this stuff up. Everything I stated here can all be backed up just google it. lol thats ironic

p.s. don't think they dont use onstar to see where you drive cause they do and they listen in on ur convos despite their clause stating they would never do that. they were exposed on the snooping not too long ago.

p.p.s boxxy moment @ 1:47 on vid lmao

Wtf is a boxxy moment?

PoweredByLE5 · Nov 19, 2011

FOAR EVERYWUN FRUM BOXXY - YouTube

FOAR LITTLE KINKY FRUM BOXXY - YouTube

McLabia · Nov 19, 2011

PoweredByLE5 said:
FOAR EVERYWUN FRUM BOXXY - YouTube

FOAR LITTLE KINKY FRUM BOXXY - YouTube

I watched about 24 seconds of the video on the bottom and wanted to kill myself. Wtf is this shit? >.< This is why I stay off youtube. It aint been the same since Capital Hill Gangsta died and turned into a show for idiots. >.>

PoweredByLE5 · Nov 19, 2011

LLOL!!!!!! hey you asked lol

scotty85 · Nov 19, 2011

McLabia said:
I watched about 24 seconds of the video on the bottom and wanted to kill myself. Wtf is this shit? >.< This is why I stay off youtube. It aint been the same since Capital Hill Gangsta died and turned into a show for idiots. >.>

i actually got thru a whole minute... then it was stop it or poke out my eyeballs and eardrums at the same time :eek:

McLabia · Nov 19, 2011

scotty85 said:
i actually got thru a whole minute... then it was stop it or poke out my eyeballs and eardrums at the same time

You're a braver(read freakin crazier) man than I. Lol.

Yeahha · Nov 19, 2011

Come on guys I sent that link to several people with the warning : want to see something dumb

@OP I like what she said about rom manager at the end

McLabia · Nov 19, 2011

Yeahha said:
Come on guys I sent that link to several people with the warning : want to see something dumb

@OP I like what she said about rom manager at the end

Lol. Yeah, that gave me a chuckle.

ALSO, Kudos to you and Scotty on earnin that green. Been a long time comin for you dudes.

scotty85 · Nov 20, 2011

Yeahha said:
Come on guys I sent that link to several people with the warning : want to see something dumb

@OP I like what she said about rom manager at the end

haha yeah that was good "work rom manager,work..."

did you try and watch either of those boxxy videos? those are the ones i couldnt stomach... made we want to reach thru the screen,smack her,and say "stf up!" lol

Yeahha · Nov 20, 2011

I tried but it wasn't happening for me

McLabia · Nov 22, 2011

SO, for those STILL not paying attention to the whole TrevE VS our Privacy(aka CIQ and their BULLISH), check these articles out.

Info/Law How Not To Secure the Net

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/11/carrieriq-censor-research-baseless-legal-threat

Two RIDICULOUS reads. CIQ, You can blow me. Twice even.

scotty85 · Nov 22, 2011

i agree. he downloaded stuff that was publicly available on their own website,and then ordered him to cease and desist(after removing said materials from their own website) and are now trying to sue him.

ill say it again... TrevE is one that everyone should be donating to. his work and findings affect almost everyone,no matter whay kind of phone you have.

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