***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

woodraskam said:

I'm testing it out. I'm going back to my original home for thanksgiving so I can test out reception there.

It's good so far. Why exactly don't I want this phone? I really want to know why you think this phone is a bad choice. Right now, I'm just gonna go a month with it, and if it's good, i'm gonna switch.

This is the second time I've been through the "stress" about a phone. I know we do it to ourselves, but if I go with T-Mobile, I know they have a history of being much more open about these things.

At this rate, I might get ICS before you do anyway.

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I'm strongly considering an unlocked T-Mobile GS2 as well. Apparently the stock UI is poorly optimized but there are several custom roms that absolutely fly on it. PM me and let me know how you like it.

Sushibagel said:

I understand your point I personally am getting really sick of Verizon playing games though. Stevens post earlier just shows they can careless about anything but making money.

Rant over.

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Well, A) How can you blame them for wanting to maximize revenue? They are a corporation answerable to shareholders. B) I want them to have lots of revenue so they can maintain their superior network. That is the number 1 reason most people are with Verizon. What is Verizon without their stellar network? Sprint. Ugh.

I understand people wanting a bit better transparency/communication, but begrudging a corporation maximizing its revenue is, well, you're failing to acknowledge reality.

nj02vette said:

Pray tell, by what games has evil Verizon played on us? Verizon has publicly stated by the end of the year. That's it.

They haven't stated 11/3, 11/21, 11/28, 12/8 or any other date, then yanked it and held it back and gave us another date, to yank again, etc. I know I'll be in the minority of this opinion, but the real culprit is all the false released info we get, that gets our hopes up, and then we blame Verizon for toying with us.

This isn't a criticism of some of our fine sources and other information that was leaked around the web. They are providing the latest information they can, but the problem is, the date is changing. Be if for technical or strategic reasons, Verizon isn't ready to release this.

But in all fairness, Verizon has NOT given us any false info so far. Now if Dec 31st comes around and we don't have it, I'll pick up the pitchforks with everyone else and storm the castles.

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Yes verizon hasn't given a confirmed release but that doesn't mean that they aren't playing games. Google officially said the phone will be out in November but Verizon is sitting on it to add their bloat or increase sales on their preferred phones. They are being tight lipped on everything nd pushing Csr's to try to make us by the RAZR

nj02vette said:

Pray tell, by what games has evil Verizon played on us? Verizon has publicly stated by the end of the year. That's it.

They haven't stated 11/3, 11/21, 11/28, 12/8 or any other date, then yanked it and held it back and gave us another date, to yank again, etc. I know I'll be in the minority of this opinion, but the real culprit is all the false released info we get, that gets our hopes up, and then we blame Verizon for toying with us.

This isn't a criticism of some of our fine sources and other information that was leaked around the web. They are providing the latest information they can, but the problem is, the date is changing. Be if for technical or strategic reasons, Verizon isn't ready to release this.

But in all fairness, Verizon has NOT given us any false info so far. Now if Dec 31st comes around and we don't have it, I'll pick up the pitchforks with everyone else and storm the castles.

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I'm still pissed off at VZ for playing these games, but I'm more pissed off at Google letting them do it.

Google should've had a release date when they announced it. Samsung should've never done the SGSII in the states when they did, and then all the carriers would be licking their chops for the Galaxy Nexus. Google could've then played all the carriers off one another and if one carrier slipped due to technical or strategic reasons, then the other carriers would be there to make them look like idiots.

Apple does launches the right way, and everyone else just tries and fails.

Steven58 said:

https://market.android.com/search?q=phandroid&so=1

Here you go. The first app, not the clock.

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That's what I love most about this crowd. Amazing help!

DiegoKokomo said:

Can someone explain to me why someone with such inside information is sitting around in a tshirt taking a picture of their laptop's screen rather than just using, say, a screenshot? They obviously weren't trying to pull information at work without anyone noticing.

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Please tell me this crappy image isn't what sparked all the furor.

DiegoKokomo said:

Can someone explain to me why someone with such inside information is sitting around in a tshirt taking a picture of their laptop's screen rather than just using, say, a screenshot? They obviously weren't trying to pull information at work without anyone noticing.

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Didn't notice that before.

It actually looks the guy from the South Park episode about World of Warcraft.

mthoren68 said:

Well, A) How can you blame them for wanting to maximize revenue? They are a corporation answerable to shareholders. B) I want them to have lots of revenue so they can maintain their superior network. That is the number 1 reason most people are with Verizon. What is Verizon without their stellar network? Sprint. Ugh.

I understand people wanting a bit better transparency/communication, but begrudging a corporation maximizing its revenue is, well, you're failing to acknowledge reality.

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It have no problem with them trying to make money its the games that pissed me off. They are holding off in the hopes that we will cave in and go with their bloated preferred phones.

woodraskam said:

That's what I love most about this crowd. Amazing help!

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And we're hot

The Cocksman said:

Please tell me this crappy image isn't what sparked all the furor.

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In part. The rest was Kellex, P3, and Phil from AC.

Of course - those 3 could have gotten their "information" from the same crappy picture we are all looking at.

Steven58 said:

Speak for yourself!

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Hey, I have a secret source who only uses Morse code to communicate with me. Super Secret! He said the Nexus will be released on November 21, November 22, November 23, November 24, November 25, November 26, November 27, November 28, November 29, November 30, December 1, December 2, December 3, December 4, December 5, December 7, December 8......or whenever Verizon feels like it.

If the Nexus comes out on any of these days we will know that my deep throat source is reliable!

Sushibagel said:

It have no problem with them trying to make money its the games that pissed me off. They are holding off in the hopes that we will cave in and go with their bloated preferred phones.

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Well then they clearly underestimate our tenacity.

i agree with many of you, that first image of the guy at the laptop and that whole 12/8 thing didnt seem totally legit, but with this image of the same screenshot from a better angle, it seems like more than one leak of the same screenshot from more than one person

original leak:


second leak:


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OfTheDamned said:

Here's the image for those that don't want to click on the link.

That is supposed to be gmail, but it just doesn't look like gmail.

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A picture of a screen showing a picture of a screen... sounds a bit sketchy to me, and that could very well have been just a Word file someone typed up to spread rumors. I'm taking it with A LOT of grains of salt.

BTW, I finally got home from school/activities and last I read someone had "stalked" some trucks stopped at the Verizon store What have I missed since then?

woodraskam said:

I'm testing it out. I'm going back to my original home for thanksgiving so I can test out reception there.

It's good so far. Why exactly don't I want this phone? I really want to know why you think this phone is a bad choice. Right now, I'm just gonna go a month with it, and if it's good, i'm gonna switch.

This is the second time I've been through the "stress" about a phone. I know we do it to ourselves, but if I go with T-Mobile, I know they have a history of being much more open about these things.

At this rate, I might get ICS before you do anyway.

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Couple of reasons, but before I get into specifics, I want to give you some insight with my experience.

A little phone was launched in Europe in 2010 called the Samsung Galaxy S. It was amazing for the time, and showed that Samsung could be taken seriously with an Android release. A couple of months go by and, out of nowhere, T-Mobile USA announces that they will be the first carrier to carry a US variant (called the Vibrant). This was exciting to me because I was, and am still right now, a T-Mobile customer, and at the time, my G1 was on its last legs. The phone came out 2 weeks earlier than anticipated release date in July, and not only that, T-Mobile had made it so that even though I was 6 months away from upgrading, I could take the upgrade price of 199 if I had signed a new contract.

Great, I thought. I picked up the phone on launch day. Now, the phone had launched with Eclair, but a week before the phone came out, both T-Mobile and SamsungUS had swore we would see the Froyo update within a month (Froyo had just launched a little earlier). There were obvious issues with the stock Eclair build, such as extreme lag, non-working GPS, and a problem sending MMS messages to contacts that weren't in the +1xxxxxxx format. No problem I thought, these would be fixed with an update.

Fast forward 5 months to December. We are still on Eclair, still with lag, still with the laggy filesystem, and still with the MMS problems. Just then we get the Froyo update, but not the REAL Froyo update. Samsung threw us a bone and gave us an update that was unfinished because all of us over at XDA caused a HUGE twitter stink to T-Mo/Samsung. By then, all of the other carriers had proper Froyo builds on there GS variants.

Another month and a half goes by and we finally get the official, T-Mobile endorsed 2.2 OS update. And yet we were still with the laggy filesystem, the MMS issues, and the broken GPS (a hardware failure that T-Mo/Samsung never officially admitted to or recalled). At this time, T-Mobile released an "updated" Vibrant, which they called the Samsung Galaxy S 4G. The only thing different about it was that it had HSPA+ radios and a front-facing camera. The "Vibrant" model was immediately EOL'ed, 6 and a half months in. I wish I could tell you there was a happy ending to that one, but the Vibrant never received another update to address the other issues. Just 2 days ago, the Galaxy S 4G got its Gingerbread update. The Vibrant still sits on firmware from January.

See, T-Mobile has always had this problem. They release a phone, hype it to high hell, call it their "flagship" device. And then in 5-6 months, they EOL it for something else, and then drop all support/updates for the device. It happened with every Windows Mobile device I've ever had from them, starting with the T-Mobile PocketPC Phone Edition I got in 2002, and continued up to the Vibrant, which I actually just sold for some extra money towards the GNex. I'm back on my G1 to tie me over until then.

Basically, T-Mo is a really shitty company when it comes to support and updates. They will lie to your face when it comes to any issues with your phone. They talked people out of returning their defective Vibrants with the GPS issues, saying that a software update would fix it. By the time everyone realized it was a hardware issue, it was too late to return.

So, aside from all of that, here is why you should stay away from the T-Mobile variant GS2:

1. Uses a completely different processor/hardware/chipset than all other GS variants. All of the other variants use the Exynos chipset, T-Mobiles variant has a Snapdragon. This will delay the update to ICS considerably and make it even harder or next to impossible for 3rd party ROMs that are based off of the international GS2 to be made. After the initial ICS update, don't expect any more updates for the life of the phone/life of your contract.

2. They increased the screen size to 4.52 inches while having the same resolution of 800x480. Basically, the res. on that size screen sucks.

3. There are issues with the screen itself. Either a hardware fault of the screen they used, or it isn't properly calibrated. Artifacts are seen and if you compare the screen to any other GS2 model, it will be apparent.

If you are going to get a GS2, please do it on either of the other two carriers. T-Mobiles' is just not worth it.

jdduncan11 said:

In part. The rest was Kellex, P3, and Phil from AC

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uuuhhggggg..... I hope I don't get trapped in a cycle.... I waited for the Droid Bionic to the point where a bigger better phone was just around the corner... in this case, the SGN..... I hope it comes soon. My OG Droid has been behaving badly. /end rant. and TY for the info!

I would actually be fine with a 12/8 release date if they announced it/had preorders on Monday.

Ninja Monkey said:

Hey, I have a secret source who only uses Morse code to communicate with me. Super Secret! He said the Nexus will be released on November 21, November 22, November 23, November 24, November 25, November 26, November 27, November 28, November 29, November 30, December 1, December 2, December 3, December 4, December 5, December 7, December 8......or whenever Verizon feels like it.

If the Nexus comes out on any of these days we will know that my deep throat source is reliable!

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I can confirm those dates.I threw a dart at a calander and hit most of them.So it must be true.

MMcCraryNJ said:

Basically, T-Mo is a really shitty company.

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TLDR. Fixed it!

Hey, some positive thinking. What if by flexible the Source's higher up was not just referring to date slipping, but method of release. If it truly a marketing decision, a web only launch is still a possibility. Maybe before the 8th.