*Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread

th0r615 · Nov 21, 2011

HanSolo said:
Oh boy.

Just got off the phone with my sister.

She says that the "bug reports" are BS. Supposedly it's "corporate crap". I asked her what that means, and she said that they are holding back the release because they want to, not because they have to. She says that dates have been set, only to be pushed back again.

She says that yes, the phone is even now still in testing, but most phones are, up until they release. Supposedly they found some bugs but were able to patch them with OTA updates, and even people within Verizon are getting a little pissy about the release date getting pushed back.

One guy told her they want to "maximize" device sales and that SGN will have a good December.

Sounds like the same thing "THE SOURCE" said... some inside Verizon were pushing hard for a pre-BF release. At think point I'm thinking its a 70/30 shot here.. 70% being Dec 8th

saulback · Nov 21, 2011

HanSolo said:
Oh boy.

Just got off the phone with my sister.

She says that the "bug reports" are BS. Supposedly it's "corporate crap". I asked her what that means, and she said that they are holding back the release because they want to, not because they have to. She says that dates have been set, only to be pushed back again.

She says that yes, the phone is even now still in testing, but most phones are, up until they release. Supposedly they found some bugs but were able to patch them with OTA updates, and even people within Verizon are getting a little pissy about the release date getting pushed back.

One guy told her they want to "maximize" device sales and that SGN will have a good December.

Thanks Hans. I assume you are back to hating Verizon?

Grendil · Nov 21, 2011

HanSolo said:
Oh boy.

Just got off the phone with my sister.

She says that the "bug reports" are BS. Supposedly it's "corporate crap". I asked her what that means, and she said that they are holding back the release because they want to, not because they have to. She says that dates have been set, only to be pushed back again.

She says that yes, the phone is even now still in testing, but most phones are, up until they release. Supposedly they found some bugs but were able to patch them with OTA updates, and even people within Verizon are getting a little pissy about the release date getting pushed back.

One guy told her they want to "maximize" device sales and that SGN will have a good December.

grab your pitchforks

scottg96 · Nov 21, 2011

HanSolo said:
Oh boy.

Just got off the phone with my sister.

She says that the "bug reports" are BS. Supposedly it's "corporate crap". I asked her what that means, and she said that they are holding back the release because they want to, not because they have to. She says that dates have been set, only to be pushed back again.

She says that yes, the phone is even now still in testing, but most phones are, up until they release. Supposedly they found some bugs but were able to patch them with OTA updates, and even people within Verizon are getting a little pissy about the release date getting pushed back.

One guy told her they want to "maximize" device sales and that SGN will have a good December.

Hmmm... despite the reports that the bug is hardware-related (interference with the 2G radio and volume trigger)?

Also, does this mean that she's certain it's not dropping until December?

brandonhutch · Nov 21, 2011

Raftysworld said:
The reason why Verizon has not announced anything regarding this phone and the rest of the world is releasing it is pretty obvious

1) They are bloating the phone - Although Apple and the iPhone get perfect treatment, updates from apple, no pre-installed verizon apps whatsoever, they couldn't care less about Google. They see the money in the iPhone and giving Apple what they want, and the decision is made.

2) They are desperately trying to sell the Droid RAZR. Verizon and Motorola have always had a good relationship, and this particular phone furthers both the Droid and the RAZR brand names.

What they want is for people to cave, to give in and say "I'm getting a RAZR". It is a more profitable device for them and their brand. Honestly, I would not be the least bit surprised to see the released date pushed way past December 8th. From their perspective, we are all a flock of potential RAZR owners.

This makes no sense to me no matter who says it or how many times it gets said. Lets say VZW has 1000 customers and 500 of them are going to be buying new phones in the near future. 250 are going to buy a RAZR and 250 plan on buying a Gnex - both @ $299 on new contracts. That's $150K. If only 1 person bought the Gnex and 499 bought the RAZR ... that's still $150K!

I know people think VZW and Moto are BFFs and try to help each other out but this is business. Do you really believe that VZW will go against what's best for itself in order to help out Moto? If you do, then you really don't understand how business works.

Raftysworld said:
The longer they hold onto the Nexus, the more people will jump off the Nexus bandwagon.

AntimonyER · Nov 21, 2011

HanSolo said:
Oh boy.

Just got off the phone with my sister.

She says that the "bug reports" are BS. Supposedly it's "corporate crap". I asked her what that means, and she said that they are holding back the release because they want to, not because they have to. She says that dates have been set, only to be pushed back again.

She says that yes, the phone is even now still in testing, but most phones are, up until they release. Supposedly they found some bugs but were able to patch them with OTA updates, and even people within Verizon are getting a little pissy about the release date getting pushed back.

One guy told her they want to "maximize" device sales and that SGN will have a good December.

I thank you but I kinda didn't want to. why verizon needs to be like that I wish I knew.

MMcCraryNJ · Nov 21, 2011

Wilfred B said:
Honestly is the best phone ive ever used. I can tell that straight away. Hopefully the predicament in the US sorts itself out and you all can get some hands on time of what im calling the beast

Thanks for the review. I honestly and truly appreciate your time. Not only because I get new insight on it from different people, but because every time I see a review of someone who is happy, and then see a sample image taken by the camera and how nice it is, I am reassured that waiting for this thing is the best decision I could make right now.

Again, thanks, and I hope you enjoy it!

sgrinavi · Nov 21, 2011

HanSolo said:
Oh boy.

Just got off the phone with my sister.

She says that the "bug reports" are BS. Supposedly it's "corporate crap". I asked her what that means, and she said that they are holding back the release because they want to, not because they have to. She says that dates have been set, only to be pushed back again.

She says that yes, the phone is even now still in testing, but most phones are, up until they release. Supposedly they found some bugs but were able to patch them with OTA updates, and even people within Verizon are getting a little pissy about the release date getting pushed back.

One guy told her they want to "maximize" device sales and that SGN will have a good December.

It's NEXUSGATE!

halon · Nov 21, 2011

Some one recap on the "rent a razr/rezound". I haven't paid attention to the posts about it. You can go in, get the phone, activate it then return it when the nexus comes out? A friend was asking me about this because they need a phone now and I have them interested in the Nexus.

Grendil · Nov 21, 2011

It's a sad fact of big business. Companies will always put their profits ahead of what their customers want, until enough of those customers take their business elsewhere.

Digital504 · Nov 21, 2011

I'm kind of bored now...and with no GN in site I'm wondering if I should just root my Droid X in the meantime to give me something to do?

This thing has been glitching out big time lately!

HanSolo · Nov 21, 2011

saulback said:
Thanks Hans. I assume you are back to hating Verizon?

After what my sis just told me, I gotta admit, a little.

I love that they shipped me out a Dinc2, and I can't fault them for trying to make the most money possible; after all, they are a corporation.

But yeah, it does bug me.

I just hope that December 8 doesn't get pushed back like other dates.

huskerkate · Nov 21, 2011

HanSolo said:
Oh boy.

Just got off the phone with my sister.

She says that the "bug reports" are BS. Supposedly it's "corporate crap". I asked her what that means, and she said that they are holding back the release because they want to, not because they have to. She says that dates have been set, only to be pushed back again.

She says that yes, the phone is even now still in testing, but most phones are, up until they release. Supposedly they found some bugs but were able to patch them with OTA updates, and even people within Verizon are getting a little pissy about the release date getting pushed back.

One guy told her they want to "maximize" device sales and that SGN will have a good December.

really?! wow, that comes as a complete and utter shock, given that we're talking about the altruistic VZW.... :rolleyes:

th0r615 · Nov 21, 2011

Hopefully Rob's open letter to Verizon will be done soon.

hgray · Nov 21, 2011

Do we have confirmation that there is actually going to be ANY software on the phone aside from what Google delivers?

saulback · Nov 21, 2011

I don't understand the hate towards the windsock. Sure it was bad news, but he gave us the same news we are hearing now a week ago. He even mentioned that the phone had no bugs and was good to go as is. That it was just corporate bs. So far he has had the most accurate information (assuming that what we are hearing from Hans sister is right). So why the hate? How about we just accept that the windsock might have reliable sources? He somehow get a hold of Verizon leaks for pretty much every phone, so he has to have some sort of source, right?

nexusprimepls · Nov 21, 2011

scottg96 said:
This is purely speculation on my part (based on a combination of "puzzle pieces"), but:
I THINK that the bugs were squashed before the LTE version was mass-produced... what I mean is that I think the LTE version was only mass-produced relatively recently, after they had already squashed the bugs. So from what I can gather HOPEFULLY they should be ready for primetime already.
Just thought i'd throw in those capitalized words for emphasis lol.

I think there must be some confusion about the "bugs" they are talking about. The bugs are related to the apps that Verizon installed, not to the operating system, or the hardware; Backup Assistant, and My Verizon. This is my understanding, and it is entirely possible that this is misinformation, but that is what I think is generally accepted at this point.

IM RED-Y · Nov 21, 2011

scottg96 said:
This is purely speculation on my part (based on a combination of "puzzle pieces"), but:
I THINK that the bugs were squashed before the LTE version was mass-produced... what I mean is that I think the LTE version was only mass-produced relatively recently, after they had already squashed the bugs. So from what I can gather HOPEFULLY they should be ready for primetime already.
Just thought i'd throw in those capitalized words for emphasis lol.

Dubbin1 said:
According to the sources (as of today) they are still working on the bugs or just finished working one them. Now explain how you came up with your speculation.

Scott - let me take a crack at this one for you. Here to help you out.

Dear Dubbin sir:

I, as stated in my post used a "combination of puzzle pieces" to arrive at my speculation. As you note I used speculation, getting smarter in my old age. My birthday is coming up you know.

Now to just clear the air there are two important things I need to point out.

1) My puzzle pieces are the entire world wide web.
2) I currently have been granted elite puzzle arranger status by my master trainer. I am already to level 4-6 puzzles. Look at the side of any puzzle box and you will note the levels.

Hope this sets you all straight.

scottg96 · Nov 21, 2011

tbrindisi said:
No they arent. Don't believe anything this guy says, he is the same kid that said his mom's piano teachers friends daughter or whatever said the phone was coming out on the 18th. Then recently said he was sure it was coming out today.

So just because I relayed what someone said means that I'm an unreliable person? Jeez all I do is tell you guys exactly what I hear and make my own inferences based on it...

zerocool79346 · Nov 21, 2011

HanSolo said:
Oh boy.

Just got off the phone with my sister.

She says that the "bug reports" are BS. Supposedly it's "corporate crap". I asked her what that means, and she said that they are holding back the release because they want to, not because they have to. She says that dates have been set, only to be pushed back again.

She says that yes, the phone is even now still in testing, but most phones are, up until they release. Supposedly they found some bugs but were able to patch them with OTA updates, and even people within Verizon are getting a little pissy about the release date getting pushed back.

One guy told her they want to "maximize" device sales and that SGN will have a good December.

Hmmm, pretty sure I called that 2 weeks ago. Verizon is a business, and businesses like to make the maximum profit with no regard to what that may portray to a SMALL (we are possibly .001%) portion of their consumer base. I don't understand why that is a hard concept for some to grasp?

Thanks as always Han.

woodraskam · Nov 21, 2011

halon said:
Some one recap on the "rent a razr/rezound". I haven't paid attention to the posts about it. You can go in, get the phone, activate it then return it when the nexus comes out? A friend was asking me about this because they need a phone now and I have them interested in the Nexus.

Make sure they note on your account that you can return an activated phone until Jan. 9th. The reps I talked to don't agree with the way it's worded to the public. I told all of them that it's very misleading to promote it the way they do if it's only 14 days from activation, but they didn't really seem to care much.

If you do get a note on your account though, you should be golden. I'm currently on a flip phone so I need to call in to reactivate my unlimited data, and the rep said as long as it's noted on your account, they have to honor it. I hope she's right.

SeaWo1f · Nov 21, 2011

Not sure if I am missing something here but in regards to the volume bug with 2g radios. Which does look like a HW bug to me because it can be activated by another phones 2g radio in close proximity. Since the problem is with the volume rocker being activated by the 2g, unless the verizon version uses a different volume rocker design shouldn't it result in the same bug?I mean just because the radios in the phones are different doesn't mean the bug is missing or somehow fixed, it just means that potentially the CDMA radio wont generate it? but if you put it next to a gsm phone the result wouldn't be the same? I really don't know how these radios function but it seems like the bug would still exist.

mfecik · Nov 21, 2011

Man with all of these push backs I feel like I should have tried to win one of the twitter contests for a free nexus...I would probably have gotten it faster that way!

HanSolo · Nov 21, 2011

scottg96 said:
Hmmm... despite the reports that the bug is hardware-related (interference with the 2G radio and volume trigger)?

Also, does this mean that she's certain it's not dropping until December?

I don't think the volume bug has definitively been proven to be hardware related, has it?

And that bug wouldn't necessarily affect Verizon's phones because their "Edge" band is different.

BabyBlues · Nov 21, 2011

Wilfred B said:
Alright, ive been using the phone now for bout an hour and im very impressed. First thing that hit me was the physical size of the device. It is big. Coming from an HTC Desire i can say that its going to take some getting used to. Although it is bulky, it feels light as a feather. Certainly lighter than the Desire.

Turning the phone on, i can honestly say my jaw hit the floor. Crisp, bright and beautiful. Ive watched a few youtube videos, and came away majorly impressed. One thing to note is that video playback on youtube uses the full screen like it would a video that is playing of your internal memory.

Speaking of memory, i bagged the 16GB version, no option for the 32GB. 13GB is free from the get go, and all apps are saved on the internal disc, therefore you do have access it seems to all 13GB for your apps, games etc. USB transfer is a wierd subject, my Mac never recognised the device in MTP or PTP. On Windows however you do get the option of viewing the memory as a normal USB stick.

Not going to bore you with an unboxing as im sure you've all seen the videos around the net. One thing that struck me is the bundled headphones are actually quite decent, though not a par on my Munitios. There is a button on the right wire that im assuming answers calls, but when the phone isn't ringing it stops the song. No option to skip using volume controls unfortunately, as these are used for volume changing funnily enough. You can however change and pause the tracks from the lockscreen. There are music controls in the notification menu, skip forward, pause, and stop track.

So far i've managed to download Facebook and Twitter, and log in sucessfully thus far, and syncing i have to say struck me as very fast. Certainly better than the Desire.

Really impressed so far, though i do have the niggling feeling in the back of my mind about the volume bug. I havent experienced it, but i havent used the phone out in the real world yet. I do plan on rooting just not until this bug is fixed, be it with software or hardware updates.

Some photos:

Excuse the quality, they were taking using a cheap digital camera.

Heres an example of the Nexus camera used straight out of the box indoors. Very impressed.

Honestly is the best phone ive ever used. I can tell that straight away. Hopefully the predicament in the US sorts itself out and you all can get some hands on time of what im calling the beast

Thank you very much! And bonus points for an adorable puppy.

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