*Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread

Duluke · Dec 7, 2011

Between the wide range of responses from stores and CSR's and the rolling network outages, this is just getting hilarious. Almost as entertaining as actually finally getting the device.

QuickDraw23 · Dec 7, 2011

So you're telling me that Verizon's 4G nationwide network is going to be down 2+ days? That would be the only reason to push it back from launching Friday. I really don't see that happening or it being down that long.

Bmxant · Dec 7, 2011

CinLou said:
Did you read that on their website? I thought it was in January sometime. That would suck if we miss out on the double data!

Brittany: Hello. Thank you for visiting our chat service. May I help you with your order today?
Anthony: Hello, is the 4GB Data Package for $30 a limited time offer?
Anthony: If so, when does the deal end.
Brittany: I'd be happy to assist you.
Anthony: Thank you.
Brittany: It is limited time, but I am not sure of an end date.
Anthony: Is there any way to find out?
Brittany: No, there is not a set date yet.
Anthony: I'm looking to switch from AT&T, but I want the Galaxy Nexus

Anthony: What happened to the Dec 9th release date?
Brittany: That device is not actually out yet.
Brittany: We do not have a release date set, either.
Brittany: I wish we did!
Anthony: I see.
Brittany: I do apologize!
Anthony: From what I know, all Verizon stores received the Galaxy Nexus, but now they aren't allowed to sell it on the 9th.
Anthony: Do you have any information on what happened?
Brittany: I have no information regarding the Nexus, except that you may put your name on the e-mail list.
Anthony: I understand.
Brittany: Is there another device you are interested in?
Anthony: Not really, we have a good 75,000 posts on the Androidforums.com waiting for this device.
Anthony: It's pretty crazy!
Brittany: I know, I get about 4000000 questions a day concerning that device.
Anthony: Haha, that's great.
Anthony: One more thing.
Brittany: Alright, sure.
Anthony: I noticed on Amazon Wireless the end of the double data promo was on the 15th of December.
Anthony: Now there's no more date.
Anthony: 4GB Smartphone Web Browsing and Email (2GB FREE) Enjoy 4GB total data access Surf the web and check and send personal e-mails when you

zx10droid · Dec 7, 2011

did anyone make it into the g+ hangout with matias? i tried the instant they posted it and it was already full

Ken7 · Dec 7, 2011

Duluke said:
Between the wide range of responses from stores and CSR's and the rolling network outages, this is just getting hilarious. Almost as entertaining as actually finally getting the device.

Exactly. That's why I've resorted to jokes. I've passed through denial to anger to humor. I could be in tears tomorrow, who knows?

Travisimo · Dec 7, 2011

pcj said:
Theory 5: Verizon corp is trying to "kill" the Friday release date because of all the leaks and they don't want a rush on stock (or Samsung doesn't want lines for their phone because of their recent ad campaign) - they'll still soft release on Friday with little/no fanfare.

Oh yes, that one I forgot!

THEORY 5 - Verizon is purposefully trying to squash leaks and prevent a rush on stock. This one is similar to THEORY 1, in that it sounds good as a conspiracy theory, but really makes no logical sense. Despite the seemingly world-shattering buzz this phone has gotten on the blogs and forums, the Galaxy Nexus will have nothing of the sort of launch craze that the iPhone has. As others have pointed out, the Nexus is a "geek" phone, and the general public has no awareness of the brand whatsoever. While there may be some lines to get the phone on launch day (there was a line to get the Droid X and Bionic when I purchased them at our local corporate Verizon stores), does anyone really believe Verizon would go through all of this trouble and effort just to squash some leaks two days before launch? IMO, this theory is DEBUNKED.

AntimonyER · Dec 7, 2011

zx10droid said:
did anyone make it into the g+ hangout with matias? i tried the instant they posted it and it was already full

Yes, please if anyone got in, give us a play by play.

bxojr · Dec 7, 2011

HanSolo said:
Maybe the 4G thing does have something to do with it?

My sister texted:

I think this is her opinion.

Verizon can't be that stupid, can they?

I don't follow ... how would that be stupid? Stupid would be to release a high-profile LTE device to customers who are mostly new to LTE, only to have them find that it doesn't work when they get it home. The flood of calls to customer service would be huge (on top of the calls they're already getting), and each and every one of those calls costs Verizon X dollars.

It would be like opening a great new Italian restaurant despite the fact that your pasta shipment didn't arrive on time.

I'm actually very reassured by the possibility that this is all because of a 4G outage. If that's what it is, you know Verizon is pulling out all of the stops to fix it, because it affects ALL of their customers (not just Nexus freaks). And it also means that the stacks of Nexus phones sitting in stores are ready to sell just as soon as Verizon gives the all-clear.

dgold82 · Dec 7, 2011

rpretzel said:
VZW is getting pounded by everyone regarding the GNex release, and the have the balls to post this on fb: "Looking for a new Smartphone or Tablet? Trying to decide on which one to get?"

Gluttons for punishment. Facepalm.

jokeefe10 · Dec 7, 2011

zx10droid said:
did anyone make it into the g+ hangout with matias? i tried the instant they posted it and it was already full

i couldn't get in either. i doubt he will say anything regarding a release date though. that is strictly in verzion's hands

Duluke · Dec 7, 2011

Ken7 said:
Exactly. That's why I've resorted to jokes. I've passed through denial to anger to humor. I could be in tears tomorrow, who knows?

Possibly hysterics somewhere in between elation and despair?

Or maybe just impatiently waiting for an awesome phone while going about the rest of life...that's probably what I'll be doing.

JRowMe · Dec 7, 2011

bxojr said:
I don't follow ... how would that be stupid? Stupid would be to release a high-profile LTE device to customers who are mostly new to LTE, only to have them find that it doesn't work when they get it home. The flood of calls to customer service would be huge (on top of the calls they're already getting), and each and every one of those calls costs Verizon X dollars.

It would be like opening a great new Italian restaurant despite the fact that your pasta shipment didn't arrive on time.

I'm actually very reassured by the possibility that this is all because of a 4G outage. If that's what it is, you know Verizon is pulling out all of the stops to fix it, because it affects ALL of their customers (not just Nexus freaks). And it also means that the stacks of Nexus phones sitting in stores are ready to sell just as soon as Verizon gives the all-clear.

i think that's what he's saying is stupid.

altimax98 · Dec 7, 2011

Bmxant said:
Brittany: Hello. Thank you for visiting our chat service. May I help you with your order today?
Anthony: Hello, is the 4GB Data Package for $30 a limited time offer?
Anthony: If so, when does the deal end.
Brittany: I'd be happy to assist you.
Anthony: Thank you.
Brittany: It is limited time, but I am not sure of an end date.
Anthony: Is there any way to find out?
Brittany: No, there is not a set date yet.
Anthony: I'm looking to switch from AT&T, but I want the Galaxy Nexus
Anthony: What happened to the Dec 9th release date?
Brittany: That device is not actually out yet.
Brittany: We do not have a release date set, either.
Brittany: I wish we did!
Anthony: I see.
Brittany: I do apologize!
Anthony: From what I know, all Verizon stores received the Galaxy Nexus, but now they aren't allowed to sell it on the 9th.
Anthony: Do you have any information on what happened?
Brittany: I have no information regarding the Nexus, except that you may put your name on the e-mail list.
Anthony: I understand.
Brittany: Is there another device you are interested in?
Anthony: Not really, we have a good 75,000 posts on the Androidforums.com waiting for this device.
Anthony: It's pretty crazy!
Brittany: I know, I get about 4000000 questions a day concerning that device.
Anthony: Haha, that's great.
Anthony: One more thing.
Brittany: Alright, sure.
Anthony: I noticed on Amazon Wireless the end of the double data promo was on the 15th of December.
Anthony: Now there's no more date.
Anthony: 4GB Smartphone Web Browsing and Email (2GB FREE) Enjoy 4GB total data access Surf the web and check and send personal e-mails when you’re out and about
Anthony: Did they possibly extend it?
Brittany: That is possible.
Anthony: For the 300MB data plan it says "Limited time offer, now through 1/15/2012"
Anthony: So I'm slightly confused.
Brittany: That is limited. 300MB is not something we really offer.
Anthony: Yeah, I figured that.
Anthony: Anyways, thank you for your time.
Anthony: I appreciate it.
Brittany: You are welcome! Is there anything else I could do for you?
Anthony: That will be all for now.
Brittany: Thank you for visiting Verizon Wireless, I look forward to speaking with you again. Have a great evening!

^ Talked to a rep

I work in a call center, and I know this must be Hell for them. They staff the phones for X amount of traffic, and the web people too. With pushing this off so much and so many people calling in for this phone + people calling in about the outage. I bet they are losing hundreds of thousands of dollars on having to have more reps working and OT right now.

Figure:

The average email chat take about 6 minutes or so from start to end. Every 10 people who ask about the Nexus only, they lose 1hr of chat time. Multiply that by 300 or so people that may chat every day into them and they are losing So much time helping actual customers, that it is in their own best interest to release the phone.

Not to mention callers and store phone calls and visits

zx10droid · Dec 7, 2011

jokeefe10 said:
i couldn't get in either. i doubt he will say anything regarding a release date though. that is strictly in verzion's hands

i didnt expect him to say a date, but i was rather hoping for an off the cuff jab or two at them haha

altimax98 · Dec 7, 2011

zx10droid said:
did anyone make it into the g+ hangout with matias? i tried the instant they posted it and it was already full

I didnt get in

Bmxant · Dec 7, 2011

altimax98 said:
I work in a call center, and I know this must be Hell for them. They staff the phones for X amount of traffic, and the web people too. With pushing this off so much and so many people calling in for this phone + people calling in about the outage. I bet they are losing hundreds of thousands of dollars on having to have more reps working and OT right now.

Figure:

The average email chat take about 6 minutes or so from start to end. Every 10 people who ask about the Nexus only, they lose 1hr of chat time. Multiply that by 300 or so people that may chat every day into them and they are losing So much time helping actual customers, that it is in their own best interest to release the phone.

Yeah, I understand. My main reason for contacting someone was to ask about the "Data Promo", not to bother them about a release date. I just figured I would ask for the hell of it.

bnace · Dec 7, 2011

Travisimo said:
Okay, now what other theories did I miss? Feel free to add/modify/delete!

THEORY #5: It's a "no-launch" launch. Will be available, they are just not saying so. This allows everyone to walk in and buy a phone. Samsung - #nowaiting

Rrrracer · Dec 7, 2011

That's it, I've had enough. Screw the Nexus. I am gonna buy my next phone from these guys:

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Only problem I have is trying to decide between the Sony Ericsson Rezound Neo G2 4G Plus or the Samsung Desire Touch S Prime 2!

Thoughts?

BabyBlues · Dec 7, 2011

altimax98 said:
I work in a call center, and I know this must be Hell for them. They staff the phones for X amount of traffic, and the web people too. With pushing this off so much and so many people calling in for this phone + people calling in about the outage. I bet they are losing hundreds of thousands of dollars on having to have more reps working and OT right now.

Figure:

The average email chat take about 6 minutes or so from start to end. Every 10 people who ask about the Nexus only, they lose 1hr of chat time. Multiply that by 300 or so people that may chat every day into them and they are losing So much time helping actual customers, that it is in their own best interest to release the phone.

But that's logical so it won't happen.

I do feel bad for the reps though.

Ninjak · Dec 7, 2011

So, who's going to do the Letterman "Top 10 Reasons the Nexus hasn't Been Released" list?

keegan1014 · Dec 7, 2011

OK, I just flushed verizon down the toilet, man they stunk,
Big Brown not big red.

altimax98 · Dec 7, 2011

Bmxant said:
Yeah, I understand. My main reason for contacting someone was to ask about the "Data Promo", not to bother them about a release date. I just figured I would ask for the hell of it.

and you wouldnt have bothered had they released the phone on Black friday and you got the double data.....

pcj · Dec 7, 2011

Travisimo said:
Oh yes, that one I forgot!

THEORY 5 - Verizon is purposefully trying to squash leaks and prevent a rush on stock. This one is similar to THEORY 1, in that it sounds good as a conspiracy theory, but really makes no logical sense.

The problem is you're assuming Verizon is being logical about this.

jasaero · Dec 7, 2011

HanSolo said:
I was thinking about this, too, but then I wondered:

If we do get a reseller to sell it to us on Friday, and Verizon hasn't officially released it yet, we won't be able to activate it.

I still might go that route anyway, if possible, just so I can finally have it. It beats walking around with an empty case in your back pocket and pretending.

Oh, it'll activate. Pretty sure they have LESS control of such things with the SIMS. They may be able to torch IMEI's or something still, but doubt they would do that to all devices getting unauthorized sales. But it WOULD activate and work atleast for awhile.

Not even sure with the SIM as your account/number identifier they are certain which device it's in at any given moment?? Maybe? Betting EarlyMon or someone has more knowledge than me on such technical matters.

BUT, generally pretty sure just the fact VZW has to move to SIMS with LTE will mean more device freedom going forward in general. For now our devices also have to work on their old CDMA network though so we aren't really freed up and that seems to be the reason SIMs get canonballed so easy and such when trying to activate nonsim older devices.

Buckeye Boy · Dec 7, 2011

ckeegan said:
Who knows if this has already been posted (since you guys are posting at roughly 20 posts/min), but this is certainly the most interesting "delay" theory I've heard yet:

Galaxy Nexus Delayed Due To Verizon Violating Spectrum Rules In Google Negotiation? | TalkAndroid.com

Violation of the c- block ? Really? Lol,... We all know what the c-block is right ? Lol

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