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Should I buy the Galaxy Nexus or Razr?

You do realize that

1. I was talking about the VZW SGN as being better on network switching on 4G
2. The RAZR is worse on switching, even after the latest OTA
3. The iphone isn't 4G LTE

So you can just keep your RAZR or SGN in 3G mode and compare. You obviously don't need 4G LTE.

Hate to sounds so harsh, but when these opined posts come up and they miss the facts, it's hard not to present them.

Again, OP needs to decide, he was just asking for RECOMMENDATIONS, and certainly not DECISIONS. Nothing more nothing less.

I am agreeing with you. I agree the SGN is better than the Razr on this issue. I know the Iphone is not 4G. My point was that during the switchover the Razr was useless. Not something I ever had to deal with with the Iphone seeing as there was no switchover.
I never said I NEED LTE. I pay for it though- so I want it. I'm not going to buy a new phone and turn off one of the highlight features to prevent it from becoming a brick. That's why the Razr went back.
 
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I am agreeing with you. I agree the SGN is better than the Razr on this issue. I know the Iphone is not 4G. My point was that during the switchover the Razr was useless. Not something I ever had to deal with with the Iphone seeing as there was no switchover.
I never said I NEED LTE. I pay for it though- so I want it. I'm not going to buy a new phone and turn off one of the highlight features to prevent it from becoming a brick. That's why the Razr went back.

Put the RAZR in 3G only, you should have no issues, and a fair and balanced comparison for your expected needs.

However,
This is info for the OP, but only if 3G is required, or only needed. Nobody is forcing anyone to use 4G.

BTW 3G vs 4G costs are 100% the same. You don't "pay more" for 4G..... yet, lol.:D
 
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I realize the costs are the same- not arguing that. A 3g mode Razr and a IP4 would be a balanced comp.
My point, which may not have come across, is that on 4g network setting, the SGN is performing more to my expectations than the Razr, which sucked, at least in my area.
Along with the other reasons I mentioned, I'm happier with the SGN.
 
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who cares? 99.9% of users won't use anywhere near 32gbs of memory, or docks/hdmi ports....

I love simple docks that have charging built in... hdmi, sure.

So I DO care... but I'm living without a solid spot on the nightstand that I can just dock/plop the phone and be done for the night.

That charger cable, keeps falling behind the nightstand though, gotta keep on grabbing it since it's a loose cable. Oh, and for your insight... it's not the END-OF-THE-WORLD, lol. I love my SGN, but you selectively quoted me on a larger reply to this thread with a few pros/cons. I would have hoped for either no quoting or ENTIRE quoting.

I'll agree on the 32Gb thing, but if I want to load a certain amount of movies, I might use more, always thinking of the top end, or a road trip with the kids..... day to week to month is usually shuffling media which music is really only about 4G, and the movies are shuffled back and forth... I think I've only used about 16G at one time.

Still doesn't change the fact of NO multimedia dock for the SGN on VZW yet! Hope it comes soon!
 
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Why should the choice be easy?

I owned a Droid X. The Motorola has some great points - the build quality and radios are about the best in the business.

It also had some weak points - the locked bootloader sucks for modding, and the forced Blur overlay is mediocre at best.

moto has as good hardware as anyone else, a little better build quality than most-but where they really suck is software.

i will never buy another moto phone. ever.
 
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Hardware to hardware, these phones are close. I think the radios, Wifi, Bluetooth, etc are better in the Razor. Screen is hands down better in the GNEX. The external speaker in the GNEX sux. The lack of the SD card in the GNEX is a pain. Like all Google products, ICS is not fully cooked. Lots of bugs and glitches. It is the price you pay to be on the bleeding edge of Anythign Google...

I would have bought the Razar over GNEX if it was not for the locked boot loader and the for e feed of Blur....

If you plan to root. Your phone do not even consider the Razar. The GNEX is obviously superior in that regard....

If you do not plan to root and do not care if the Razar ever gets ICS, (with Verizon and moto in the mix it will take many months if it is ever released) it is a toss up. I could easly argue it either way.....
 
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Even if the next Nexus is a Motorola and on VZW?

I will buy it and allow it to marry one of my daughters!!! Motorola makes great phones!

With that said, Google has already come out and told the handset makers that overlays are not going to be allowed in certain parts of ICS. Now there will still be overlays, however they will now have to have the same look as ICS.
 
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I will buy it and allow it to marry one of my daughters!!! Motorola makes great phones!

With that said, Google has already come out and told the handset makers that overlays are not going to be allowed in certain parts of ICS. Now there will still be overlays, however they will now have to have the same look as ICS.

If possible could you put a link to this info? The only thing I have seen is that they have to have the default stock apps if they are using the market to allow for better app integration. But I did not see where they would have to keep the same look as ICS. I hope it doesn't seem that I'm arguing with you just curious to know all the facts.
 
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If possible could you put a link to this info? The only thing I have seen is that they have to have the default stock apps if they are using the market to allow for better app integration. But I did not see where they would have to keep the same look as ICS. I hope it doesn't seem that I'm arguing with you just curious to know all the facts.

I will see if I can dig it up, I think it was Tech Crunch... It was something involving the market as well though. Now I'm actually wondering if I simply read it wrong. I know the article was definetly talking about overlays not being able to do what they used to though.

I will find a link.

Here is the link to the Android Developers Blog about it.

http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2012/01/holo-everywhere.html

I was kinda right and kinda wrong. They are saying that in ICS everyone will have to follow the same Holo styling theme through out for OTAs. So while the overlays can still have all the added widgets and such, they will still have to follow the Holo design. They can be themed but need to folow the Holo design standards.

It is to help developers keep a standard design throughout all of the apps.

Android 4.0 showcases the Holo theme family, further refined since its debut in Android 3.0. But as most developers know, a new system theme for some Android devices isn’t a new or uncommon event. For developers new system themes mean more design targets for their apps. Using system themes means developers can take advantage of a user’s existing expectations and it can save a lot of production time, but only if an app designer can reliably predict the results. Before Android 4.0 the variance in system themes from device to device could make it difficult to design an app with a single predictable look and feel. We set out to improve this situation for the developer community in Ice Cream Sandwich and beyond.

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Theme.Holo​

If you’re not already familiar with Android’s style and theme system, you should read Styles and Themes before continuing.
Compatibility Standard

In Android 4.0, Holo is different. We’ve made the inclusion of the unmodified Holo theme family a compatibility requirement for devices running Android 4.0 and forward. If the device has Android Market it will have the Holo themes as they were originally designed.
This standardization goes for all of the public Holo widget styles as well. The Widget.Holo styles will be stable from device to device, safe for use as parent styles for incremental customizations within your app.
The Holo theme family in Android 4.0 consists of the themes Theme.Holo, Theme.Holo.Light, and Theme.Holo.Light.DarkActionBar. Examples of these themes in action are shown in the screenshots lining this post.
To use a Holo theme, explicitly request one from your manifest on your activity or application element, e.g. android:theme="@android:style/Theme.Holo". Your app will be displayed using the unmodified theme on all compatible Android 4.0 devices. The Holo themes may also be used as stable parent themes for app-level theme customizations.
What about device themes?

We have no desire to restrict manufacturers from building their own themed experience across their devices. In fact we’ve gone further to make this even easier. In Android 4.0’s API (level 14) we’ve added a new public theme family to complement the Holo family introduced in Android 3.0: DeviceDefault. DeviceDefault themes are aliases for the device’s native look and feel. The DeviceDefault theme family and widget style family offer ways for developers to target the device’s native theme with all customizations intact.

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Theme.Holo.Light​

Formally separating these theme families will also make future merges easier for manufacturers updating to a new platform version, helping more devices update more quickly. Google’s Nexus devices alias DeviceDefault to the unmodified Holo themes.
 
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