Pros/Cons of HTC Rezound vs. Galaxy Nexus

BlueBiker · Jan 26, 2012

andr01d said:
hmm... that might be over-reaching. If it can be done by software, they would have solved the problem 3 weeks, 500 hours or 50 softwares/firmwares ago.

You know, this gave me pause. I've been on the "just wait for a software fix" bandwagon, but that would carry more weight with a brand new network or brand new hardware. VZW's LTE has now been out in many markets for many months, and IIRC the Nexus LTE radio is just an updated version of the Charge's.

I'm not an RF engineer, but how long does it take to work the kinks out of radio reception in software?

TxGoat · Jan 26, 2012

BlueBiker said:
You know, this gave me pause.

Take your pick.....Oh wait you said pause.....

TxGoat · Jan 27, 2012

Someone brought this to my attention.....lulz....

http://androidforums.com/verizon-galaxy-nexus/489900-lte-c-antenna-signal-booster.html

secretLOVER · Jan 27, 2012

TxGoat said:
Someone brought this to my attention.....lulz....

http://androidforums.com/verizon-galaxy-nexus/489900-lte-c-antenna-signal-booster.html

When it gets that bad, just give in and buy a new phone! I would hate to have to deal with that. One of the many reasons i research.

TxGoat · Jan 27, 2012

secretLOVER said:
When it gets that bad, just give in and buy a new phone! I would hate to have to deal with that. One of the many reasons i research.

I can't believe someone suggested paying $600 for a signal booster to use their $300 phone.... I like my idea better...

secretLOVER · Jan 27, 2012

Uhhh yeah honey, I'm gonna knock out this side of the house to get better reception.

discgolfdc · Jan 27, 2012

I've found this thread an interesting read. I spent over 3 hours on the phone today with VZW's Tier 2 tech support, and I was surprised at just how much this woman put into helping me narrow down some issues I've been having with my Droid Bionic. That phone is one of the biggest POS's I've ever owned, and I've been a long-time Motorola loyal.

Needless to say, after our troubleshooting (which involved her using multiple test phones at their facility) and seemingly narrowing the problem down to Motorola hardware (at least the dual core units), I think it's time to jump ship. Can you hear the sound bite? "GOOD BYE, MO-TO!"

I've been looking into other VZW 4G phones, and it turns out these are the two I am juggling between. At this point, I'm leaning toward the Rezound, based on what seems to be a more reliable functional build profile. If I'm worried about working on a super-big screen, I'll put my phone down and fire up my desktop. It's meant to be a portable device. And 0.3 inches or so won't likely be a deal-breaker for me.

If the lady at VZW tech support wasn't lying to me, I think I may be able to do this swap at no charge (I've had the Bionic for a little over 2 months). Hopefully, they'll not give me some reject refurb. It doesn't sound like people take their Rezounds back, though, so that's a good sign.

Thanks for the reads.

TxGoat · Jan 27, 2012

discgolfdc said:
I've found this thread an interesting read. I spent over 3 hours on the phone today with VZW's Tier 2 tech support, and I was surprised at just how much this woman put into helping me narrow down some issues I've been having with my Droid Bionic. That phone is one of the biggest POS's I've ever owned, and I've been a long-time Motorola loyal.

Needless to say, after our troubleshooting (which involved her using multiple test phones at their facility) and seemingly narrowing the problem down to Motorola hardware (at least the dual core units), I think it's time to jump ship. Can you hear the sound bite? "GOOD BYE, MO-TO!"

I've been looking into other VZW 4G phones, and it turns out these are the two I am juggling between. At this point, I'm leaning toward the Rezound, based on what seems to be a more reliable functional build profile. If I'm worried about working on a super-big screen, I'll put my phone down and fire up my desktop. It's meant to be a portable device. And 0.3 inches or so won't likely be a deal-breaker for me.

If the lady at VZW tech support wasn't lying to me, I think I may be able to do this swap at no charge (I've had the Bionic for a little over 2 months). Hopefully, they'll not give me some reject refurb. It doesn't sound like people take their Rezounds back, though, so that's a good sign.

Thanks for the reads.

A lot of people have been sending back their Rezound due to pink buttons so that's one thing to look for if they send you back a refurb. I wish Verizon's Quality Control (if such a group exists) was a little more stringent with the phones they send back out. If they were a little more strict with what phones they send out then you'd probably be ok if you had to get a refurb, otherwise, ask the lady who provided you with tech support what your options are if the refurb does not meet with your approval. It took me 6 Thunderbolt refurbs before they finally let me buy another phone from them. "But we're moving your upgrade date by 15 months", no you're extorting $300 from me so that I don't feel foolish paying $80 a month for 15 months for cell service that I can't use since my Thunderbolt is garbage! Good luck.

secretLOVER · Jan 27, 2012

discgolfdc said:
I've found this thread an interesting read. I spent over 3 hours on the phone today with VZW's Tier 2 tech support, and I was surprised at just how much this woman put into helping me narrow down ........,...............
..............). Hopefully, they'll not give me some reject refurb. It doesn't sound like people take their Rezounds back, though, so that's a good sign.

Thanks for the reads.

Go in n feel them both in your hands for the comparison.

Give this thread a read...

http://androidforums.com/htc-rezound/470175-galaxy-nexus-rezound-people.html

dharmaynayz · Feb 2, 2012

mistyinca said:
I find it interesting that so many people returned their galaxy nexus for a rezound. I did too, but I took a little detour on the way. I picked up the nexus on 12/31. I already had a case ordered from ebay and a cling protector on the way. I got the phone home and after two hours returned it to Verizon. I'm not even going to pretend that I can participate in the uber tech discussion here on why, LOL. My reasons were a little more simple: s l o w, couldn't find my way around (came from an Incredible), and then the total deal breaker was the no facebook contact integration. Laugh if you will; it's ok. You'll laugh more when you find out that I took an iPhone for little over a week as the alternative.

OMG...what a dumb phone. I can't believe how many people in the world rave about how great the iphone is. It is so completely uncustomize-able. Having come from nearly 2 years of the Incredible, it was too much of a downgrade for me, so I coughed up the $35 and picked up the rezound.

I love it. The only thing I'm not crazy about is the circle thing. Other than that, we're good.

I KNOW, RIGHT???

i recently read an article about 18 reasons to jailbreak an iclone, er, iphone 4s. a 4s, not a lame 4. anyway, so many of the things you need to jb that phone, then buy apps to do are already native/free/standard on android. blown away.

18 Reasons to Jailbreak the iPhone 4S

i too came from a DInc and i was spoiled to start my android life with such a bitchin phone. still can't give it up. i loaned it to a friend who's gonna use it until he decides what to get. then, seriously, i want it back.

my wife is going back and forth between iphone and Vigor/4g, etc. i keep telling her iphone is great for the compatibility within iproducts. but our (yours and mine and everyone's) Vigor is leagues ahead.

one of the biggest draws to android is it's individuality. my Vigor looks nothing like yours, nor anyone's. i can arrange my apps how i wish, dl a launcher to change my experience...well, you know. anyway, again, thanks for that post. it's nice to know the iphone is not ubiquitous to everyone. i def do NOT have ienvy.

4G
720p
4.3" (screen that is, haha! sorry)
1.5 dual-core Snapdragon??? c'mon!
beats

catch up, iclone.

thanks again.

take care.

p.s. i am from corona, and seeing your posts, i had to say hi and thanks.

andr01d · Feb 7, 2012

Half price nexus LTE chip... great savings or half signal?

Samsung cuts LTE chip cost by half, ABI Research teardown reveals

bye.

zerocool79346 · Feb 7, 2012

Still have yet to have a problem with my Nexus, stock or otherwise. So I'll voice in from the opposite side as the others I here, its hands down (and was when stock as well) the smoothest experience I've ever had on Android, and also the best battery life. I've gotten to test it briefly on 4G (I don't live in a native market) and it was exactly the same as on 3G so far as I could tell. As for the article above, I would bet on it being the former of your conjectures considering Samsung is putting all of their LTE eggs in that basket.

schimm · Feb 7, 2012

My phone has a cool Beats logo on back. And yours doesn't. WIN!!!

leroybrute · Feb 7, 2012

How many LTE eggs do you think they can get into the Nexus?

I just checked my Rezound only has one LTE egg in it.

zerocool79346 · Feb 7, 2012

leroybrute said:
How many LTE eggs do you think they can get into the Nexus?

I just checked my Rezound only has one LTE egg in it.

Lol wut? Samsung is using this new LTE radio in all of their offerings from here on out.

leroybrute · Feb 7, 2012

zerocool79346 said:
Lol wut? Samsung is using this new LTE radio in all of their offerings from here on out.

I have had a charge and a galaxy nexus and I really hope samsung does something different with their approach to LTE. Not very solid to me.

zerocool79346 · Feb 8, 2012

leroybrute said:
I have had a charge and a galaxy nexus and I really hope samsung does something different with their approach to LTE. Not very solid to me.

The charge radio is completely different, thus the half price argument. The Nexus is the first Samsung device carrying the new radio and its my belief that it really is mostly a software issue causing issues.

leroybrute · Feb 8, 2012

Really? Not to be rude but Curious, which update will bring a software update to fix the data issues? Just saw a buddy of mine who has stuck with his GNex said the updates hasn't fixed his data issues.

andr01d · Feb 8, 2012

There's no need to wait any longer... we have the AF NOSHI Team to fix it!! :cool:

extern char pwr_mgmt;
extern char getsignal( void);
// -------------------------------------------------------------------------
// Fix Galaxy Nexus Signal, version 0.1 beta 1, 08 Feb 2012
// Android Forums - Nexus Obligatory Signal Help Implementation Team
// free, copyleft license, no warranty, USA LTE version only
// -------------------------------------------------------------------------
char Fix_GNex_Signal() {

char value; // temp variable
char fake_signal; // confidential use only
value = getsignal(); // find the real signal

if (value <= (char) -100) { // from -101 to -120 dBm or worse
pwr_mgmt = 0; // oh boy we'll unfortunately have to drain the battery quick
fake_signal = value - 45; // re-state power level so that it'll work
}
else if (value <= (char) -80) { // from -81 to -100 dbm
pwr_mgmt = 1; // little bit of power savings
fake_signal = value - 30; // re-state power level here too lol
}
else if (value <= (char) -60) { // from -61 to -80 dbm
pwr_mgmt = 3; // good news... a little bit of power savings
fake_signal = value - 15; // sure lets do it here too
}
else { // default -60 dbm or better on a great day
pwr_mgmt = 5; // ok we can actually save some power!!
fake_signal = value; // cool... there's no need to re-state any power level
}
return fake_signal; // brb
} // bye

.

schimm · Feb 8, 2012

Showoff!

leroybrute · Feb 8, 2012

TxGoat · Feb 8, 2012

zerocool79346 said:
Still have yet to have a problem with my Nexus, stock or otherwise. So I'll voice in from the opposite side as the others I here, its hands down (and was when stock as well) the smoothest experience I've ever had on Android, and also the best battery life. I've gotten to test it briefly on 4G (I don't live in a native market) and it was exactly the same as on 3G so far as I could tell. As for the article above, I would bet on it being the former of your conjectures considering Samsung is putting all of their LTE eggs in that basket.

I'm seeing more threads like this one http://androidforums.com/thunderbol...us-thunderbolts-battery-life-nexus-owner.html than threads claiming great battery life. I think maybe the fact that you've shut down your 4G is part of the reason you're seeing better battery performance. That being said, it's like having a nicely engineered sports car that has a problematic engine.

Trust me, I'm not trying to harp on the phone because it's not a Rezound. I'm wanting the phone to stand on its own two legs. Having owned the Thunderbolt and having to deal with everyone claiming how great a phone it was, I had no problems calling out the phone's poor battery performance and poor 4G signal reception. I definitely believe the two were related, as is evident by your experience with the Nexus.

I think the fact that a lot of us made a lot of noise with the Thunderbolt's shortcomings, HTC knew it couldn't mess around with the Rezound if it wanted to gain back the trust it had lost with the poor performance of the Thunderbolt. A lot of the Nexus guys waited a long time for the Nexus and it's sad when they try to justify the shortcomings of that phone. Consumers demand more for their hard earned money.

andr01d said:
There's no need to wait any longer... we have the AF NOSHI Team to fix it!!

extern char pwr_mgmt;
extern char getsignal( void);
// -------------------------------------------------------------------------
// Fix Galaxy Nexus Signal, version 0.1 beta 1, 08 Feb 2012
// Android Forums - Nexus Obligatory Signal Help Implementation Team
// free, copyleft license, no warranty, USA LTE version only
// -------------------------------------------------------------------------
char Fix_GNex_Signal() {

char value; // temp variable
char fake_signal; // confidential use only
value = getsignal(); // find the real signal

if (value <= (char) -100) { // from -101 to -120 dBm or worse
pwr_mgmt = 0; // oh boy we'll unfortunately have to drain the battery quick
fake_signal = value - 45; // re-state power level so that it'll work
}
else if (value <= (char) -80) { // from -81 to -100 dbm
pwr_mgmt = 1; // little bit of power savings
fake_signal = value - 30; // re-state power level here too lol
}
else if (value <= (char) -60) { // from -61 to -80 dbm
pwr_mgmt = 3; // good news... a little bit of power savings
fake_signal = value - 15; // sure lets do it here too
}
else { // default -60 dbm or better on a great day
pwr_mgmt = 5; // ok we can actually save some power!!
fake_signal = value; // cool... there's no need to re-state any power level
}
return fake_signal; // brb
} // bye

.

CodeWritingTrollSezWhut?

zerocool79346 · Feb 8, 2012

I don't think you're rude at all, you maybe right ( I honestly don't care, even if the LTE isn't as amazing as it should be, I would own this phone over any other on Verizon based other other merits LTE or not) but I still believe it'll wind up being fixed. As for update, we still haven't received a legit update so I'm not sure what he's talking about.

zerocool79346 · Feb 8, 2012

TxGoat said:
I'm seeing more threads like this one http://androidforums.com/thunderbol...us-thunderbolts-battery-life-nexus-owner.html than threads claiming great battery life. I think maybe the fact that you've shut down your 4G is part of the reason you're seeing better battery performance. That being said, it's like having a nicely engineered sports car that has a problematic engine.

Trust me, I'm not trying to harp on the phone because it's not a Rezound. I'm wanting the phone to stand on its own two legs. Having owned the Thunderbolt and having to deal with everyone claiming how great a phone it was, I had no problems calling out the phone's poor battery performance and poor 4G signal reception. I definitely believe the two were related, as is evident by your experience with the Nexus.

I think the fact that a lot of us made a lot of noise with the Thunderbolt's shortcomings, HTC knew it couldn't mess around with the Rezound if it wanted to gain back the trust it had lost with the poor performance of the Thunderbolt. A lot of the Nexus guys waited a long time for the Nexus and it's sad when they try to justify the shortcomings of that phone. Consumers demand more for their hard earned money.

CodeWritingTrollSezWhut?

Lol I've used the phone walking around Seattle's downtown on 4G and never had a drop or saw battery drainage. After reading the Rezound battery thread on xda I'm not sure you guys are the group to be throwing stones about battery life regardless.

schimm · Feb 8, 2012

I don't know what people expect out of a 1600 mah battery. I bought the Rezound with the knowledge that I'll be using an extended battery (in fact I bought the extended the same day I traded up the gnex for the Rezound). Though I can get by without it since I sit next to a computer all day.

At the same time Verizon says there is nothing wrong with the signal performance of the gnex. That punched my ticket out of Dodge. If you are waiting for a fix I think it's quite a gamble. Especially if your dBms are as gimped as mine were with the gnex.

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