[Verizon] Quick Titanium back up tip? Uncheck System apk and Protected apk?

litobirdy · Feb 9, 2012

I had a problem the other day restoring my apps after installing a rom. After i restores and rebooted the phone would just keep booting up. So someone said do not restore system apps. so my question is
for the Batch backup/restore
do I just back up "all user apps"?
or all user apps+ system data as a just in case?

then for restore do I just restore "missing apps with data"
or "all apps with data"
anybody's professional tips on this would be appreciated.
I feel i'm OVER backing up stuff.

elmerjr128 · Feb 9, 2012

Back up all user apps+ system data.
Restore missing apps with data.

litobirdy · Feb 9, 2012

elmerjr128 said:
Back up all user apps+ system data.
Restore missing apps with data.

so then whats the point of backing up system data if your only going to restore missing apps? for peace of mind?

Yeahha · Feb 9, 2012

I suggest never backing up or restoring system data. It only causes problems if you do. Devs use different versions of system apps so data rom one from may cause another rom to become a force close fiesta

Backup all user apps and restore all missing apps with data are the only two batch operations I use. I also delete all my backups before making more.

iowabowtech · Feb 9, 2012

elmerjr128 said:
Back up all user apps+ system data.
Restore missing apps with data.

+1

The reason why you back up system data is what you said litobirdy...just in case. Say for example you get into an odd bootloop or similar due to your screwing around and borking something accidentally and maybe you forgot to make a nandroid. If you want to stay on the same rom anyway, you can wipe data/cache/dalvik and reload the rom from scratch. Then if you had backed up apps + system data, you could restore the whole works without worry. You already know it all works on that rom since you backed it up while on that rom. It's trying to restore system data across various roms that starts to get iffy which is why many of us rarely do it.

litobirdy · Feb 9, 2012

oh ok, cool ok then now i know
Back up all user apps+ system data.
Restore missing apps with data.
Mods you can lock this up, I've found the answer I was looking for.

PhilosoRaptor · Feb 9, 2012

On this topic, does anyone know how to backup/restore WiFi and BT profiles? It's annoying to re-pair to my car every time I change ROMs and repeatedly ask for other peoples passwords when I go to their house. I thought Google backed that stuff up if you had it checked in the settings, but it doesn't restore it when I check "automatically restore". I see Titanium has "WiFi Access Points" listed too, but I remember having issues restoring that on my old Droid.

nathanspence85 · Apr 24, 2012

Titanium now has a warning message when removing system app+data warning that this cannot be reversed. So I tested this on a system app I knew I did not need or want and I could not restore the app.

So if as you say, you ever encountered a problem and wanted to restore a system app on the same rom, Titanium would not be able to do this. So this leads me to think it is pointless backing up system apps if they cannot be restored?

iowabowtech · Apr 24, 2012

nathanspence85 said:
Titanium now has a warning message when removing system app+data warning that this cannot be reversed. So I tested this on a system app I knew I did not need or want and I could not restore the app.

So if as you say, you ever encountered a problem and wanted to restore a system app on the same rom, Titanium would not be able to do this. So this leads me to think it is pointless backing up system apps if they cannot be restored?

If you were in dire straits and needed to reload the rom from scratch, the system apps would be there again by default because they are a function of the rom install. So then you could restore system data and you would have the rom running again with all apps/data/system data with a single batch restore. I'm not saying this situation presents itself very often but it could be done and there is a time and place for this option IMO.

Also, some people like to restore a few items from system by handpicking them. User dictionary for example...if it's the same version which it often is when various roms are being built around a specific OS version.

nathanspence85 · Apr 24, 2012

I see. That makes sense. Cheers for the explanation.

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