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My thoughts after 3 weeks of Nexus living...

dougleto

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For those on the fence about getting a Nexus and to generate a bit of discussion, I wanted to give my thoughts about the Nexus (plus ICS and Verizon for good measure :)). I've only had it for about 3 weeks, but I think I have a pretty decent handle on the phone. For context, I'm upgrading from a Droid Incredible, which brings me to my first point, mostly about the Incredible...

It is SO great to not have to worry about the obnoxious low space warning that plagued the Incredible if you installed "too many" apps on it (where too many wasn't really that many) or if you actually used your phone for email and MMS. I can't believe that HTC never fixed that bug, it totally killed my experience with the phone. But I digress. Onto the Nexus

Hardware:
When I first got it, my reaction was, oh my gosh, this thing is enormous! But in the past couple of weeks, I've really gotten used to it. I wish these darn things weren't so expensive so I didn't feel the need to put it in a case which makes it even bigger. But when I went to use my incredible a few days ago to prep it for selling it, I realized that I had gotten used to my enormous screen and no way am I going back.

Screen. I love the screen. I know its pentile and that bugs some people, but I honestly can't tell. Maybe someday when I get an even better screen I won't be able to go back, but honestly, the screen is beautiful.

Battery. My first major gripe. I know that a huge screen and LTE do not make for a battery friendly phone and I knew that going in. But I was still surprised by exactly how bad it is. Basically, if you use your phone for anything at all--not heavy use, just making calls, occasional browsing, etc--it will not make it an entire day on one charge. If you can't be around a charger occasionally, this phone really won't work for you unless you carry around a bunch of batteries. Using LTE a lot? Be prepared to be plugged in A LOT.

My biggest gripe is illustrated by this experience: I used the phone in my car the other day as a navigation device on a 1hr ish drive. It was connected to a strong LTE signal the entire time, but I wasn't using the phone for anything other than GPS. I had it plugged into a 2.1A car charger so it was getting as much juice as it can draw (and checked that it was in AC not USB mode -- side note: maybe they should change that to DC to be more precise and include wall/car charging). At the end of the drive, my battery had dropped ~10%! The inability to keep up with the power demands of a phone WHEN PLUGGED IN is just unacceptable. This means that if I want to use my phone as a GPS device for an extended period of time, I have to bring extra batteries with me, even if I AM PLUGGED IN THE ENTIRE TIME! I saw this in one review before buying the phone but figured it was a fluke. In my experience, it's not and should absolutely be called out more in the press.

Camera. Sorry folks, no excuses, the camera is subpar. Coming from an Incredible and comparing to my wife's iPhone 4, the pictures are much, much noisier, the colors aren't as good, and the picture quality overall is much lower (despite having the same number of MPs as the 4). I know there are a lot of camera apologists on here saying, "yeah, but in the right light..." and sure, my 1.3mp camera on my 5yr old dumbphone took decent pictures with tons of light. But a flagship phone should have a better camera and Samsung/Google dropped the ball on this one. Anyone who says otherwise is in denial. Is it passable? Yes. Good? Absolutely not. I'm not a professional photographer and am not expecting DSLR results from this camera, but its not up to par with similar offerings from the same manufacturer and is, in my opinion, the single biggest drawback of this phone.

LTE. Awesome. I work in an area where I get 4bars of LTE signal (clear lake area south of Houston, TX) and the speeds are incredible. It's amazing to get a faster connection on my phone than on my cable modem. My one complaint in this department is with Verizon (aside from the battery issues of course). Evidently, Verizons coverage maps show where coverage is or will be by the end of the current quarter (so they claim). I checked the coverage map before buying the phone and live well within the normal 4G coverage area. Get my phone, turn it on. WTH? No 4G. Call local Verizon store that is also shown to be in 4G coverage area. They say, oh yeah, we definitely don't get 4G down here and give me the story about it being accurate for where service will be by the end of the current quarter. Dial *611 and another dude confirms the story (though he might have just been trying to get rid of me). If this is true, Verizon needs to be much more up front about this. It's pretty ridiculous to a show a map of where coverage is "going to be", not where it is. Totally false advertising. And they better have me covered by the end of the quarter (end of March)!

Call quality. I'm really impressed with the quality of the headset and the in-call quality is great. I'm even convinced I'm hearing feedback (my own voice) in the speaker when I talk, which I was told wasn't done on mobile phones. It really helps you know how loud you should be talking. I'm also very impressed with the noise cancellation. As an anecdote, I was setting up a new VoiP solution in my house and was testing the new phones. When I called the phones from my Nexus, I realized that I couldn't hear myself talking when I had both phones up to my head and thought that my service was screwed up somehow. The next day when I was troubleshooting, I had an idea and hit mute on the Nexus. Instantly, I could hear myself talking into the other phone. The Nexus had been comparing what it was getting from the mic and what it was getting in the speaker, saw they were the same, and perfectly cancelled it out to the point where I thought something was broken. Go Physics!

As others have mentioned, the speaker for speaker phone/listening to music/etc. is much too quiet. Hopefully that's addressed in a future software update. If you're not in a quiet room, it's basically unusable.

Software:
I am loving Android 4.0. There's nothing huge that I could mention, but there are so many small tweaks that make android better that I shudder even considering going back to gingerbread. The settings are much better organized, I love being able to uninstall an app from the app drawer, and the overall fit and finish of the OS is much better. As a side note, I really dig the new roboto font and hope other developers start to use it more.

Couple of app-specific gripes. Mostly about one app in fact. I may need some advice on where to provide this feedback, because it's got to change! I use google reader a lot (and I'm sure I'm not the only one). The stars drive me nuts. First off, why are they so darn hard to hit!? This was true on my incredible and I hoped the size of the Nexus would help, but it hasn't really. And I actually have pretty small hands. Can we please make the target area for the star bigger? Please? And second, this is just a weird UI thing. In the list view for RSS items, a grey star means the item is not starred and blue fill means it is (if I can ever select it :mad:). When you click on an article to bring it up, an open star (grey outline, no fill) means it is not starred, and a filled grey star means it is starred. So in one screen, a filled grey star means it is starred and on the previous screen it means it is not. Small thing, but confusing, and really should be selected.

Keyboard. Thus far, I've been extremely impressed with the typing experience on the Nexus. I've been able to type on the standard keyboard much more quickly and accurately than was possible on the incredible. I'm not going to write a novel on it (like this ;)) anytime soon, but tapping out a couple sentence email is no problem at all. And I really like the way suggestions work, particularly punctuation. I like having the option to add a comma or question mark in the suggestion bar after I add a space when typing. Very convenient. And the corrections for contractions are much, much better. On the Incredible, you almost always had to type the contraction you wanted exactly as it wouldn't suggest similar words with contractions (with a few examples). This was extremely annoying and is thankfully not an issue at all with the Nexus.

App switcher. I really think WebOS does this better. The recent app switcher is kind of nice, but its one of my android annoyances that they don't "freeze" apps or whatever you want to call it, meaning that if you're out of resources, android closes the app and the next time you want to access it you start from scratch. And why can you swipe an app off the screen if that doesn't really do anything? It would be nice to have persisent apps that don't require a stupid little notification icon on the screen at all times. The larger screen mitigates this issue somewhat, but it's still annoying.

Soft keys. I wasn't sure I would, but I also really like the software home, back, and recent apps keys. It's great that they can go away and make the screen that much bigger when they're not needed. Small thing, but very nice.

Input lag/problems. One of my most frequent issues with my phone is that it misses touches. Hit the screen. Nothing. Hit it again. Nothing. WTH? Hit it again, app opens or home button is pushed. Touched it the same way all three times, what was wrong the first two? Is this a widespread problem or is it just me. It doesn't happen all the time, but it's pretty consistent and pretty annoying when it happens.

It's a Nexus. This was one of the major selling points for me. It was so obnoxious to wait for a year for HTC to update the OS on the Incredible (and never fix a phone-ruining bug. grr.). This alone almost makes up for any of the Nexus' shortcomings and I hope they keep the updates coming (seem to be a bit slow on some at the moment).

Bottom Line:
Only the seriously devoted reader will have made it this far, but if you have, thanks for your time! My verdict is this: this is the best android phone out there right now. But there is no way that I will be hanging onto this phone for two years, the poor camera guarantees that and the battery life clinches it. With MWC in full swing, the only contender I see is the HTC One X, but us poor Verizonites are out of luck. But that does mean that we'll have the best Verizon android phone for that much longer I suppose.

If you're in the market for a new phone, live in an LTE market, have frequent access to a charger (seriously, you'll need it), and aren't opposed to upgrading w/in your 2 year contract, get this phone, you'll like it. But I'm guessing that quite a few of us will be looking to unload it when another phone comes along with all of its pluses and fewer minuses (and it will before the end of the year, mark my words).
 
Nice review. Agreed on most points. But I don't think battery life of Nexus is that horrible compared to other LTE phones, maybe about average if screen brightness is set low and there aren't many apps syncing. We still have yet to get first official OTA which will improve battery, signal, camera, etc.

As for the high end phones that will leapfrog Nexus, I think it will be SGSIII or next Nexus phone with A15 based processor. I'm not that impressed by quad core Tegra3 phones announced in MWC this week.
 
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Nice review, I also agree with most of your points. Couple quick things.

Camera: I found that using the action scene produces better indoor pics but I generally agree that the camera stinks for the most part.

Car charger: After hours of research I finally found a car charger that will actually charge the phone while using GPS. Drove about 1.5 hours the other day with navigation on and bluetooth audio streaming Pandora at the same time. Charge actually went up a few points. Here is the charger I got: Amazon.com: Motorola Vehicle Power Adapter micro-USB Rapid Rate Charger: Cell Phones & Accessories

I'm with you about not keeping the phone two years. I'm hoping that by the time my next upgrade comes 4G covers most of the 3G map and Verizon has another Nexus with VoLTE capabilities. A good camera and a 3,000mah battery would be nice too. For now, I couldn't be happier that I got rid of my Dinc. At least I don't get that dreaded low on space warning every other day.
 
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Nice review.

As far as the battery goes using wifi when available goes a really long way. Beyond that I actually picked up a car charger at Best Buy for my Fascinate when I got it and it works very well at keeping the phone fully charged while I use it in the car. I think this is one of the rare occasions were a quality car charger is needed for the phone.

The Camera is not great. My Fascinate took great pics, but most of us have digital cameras that do a better job than any phone ever could. Not making an excuse for it, Samsung/Google dropped the ball, we can always hope that an update can help it out. As of now, I just use it for fun picks and quick shots when we are out and about or if I want to remember something for later.

The coverage map thing has always been an annoyance to me. I live in the Rockies and there is a huge difference between every carrier's supposed coverage and reality. There are a couple of spots in my area that are total dead spots for every carrier, but a few dozen calls to Verizon and they are finally working to resolve it. Still no 4G, but at least the calls don't completely drop now.

As far as input/lag I have not seen this. My phone is quick to respond and opens apps on the first touch. The only time I have had any issue with something being glitchy is typing in landscape and only on the Phandroid app.

I'm not saying that you are one of them, but there are some that think the phone being a Nexus means that we will get updates extra fast (almost like Cyanogen nightlies or something). This isn't the case. The phone will get updates faster than most, but only when Google puts them out and with Verizon in the mix we are going to have to wait for their quality control testing. If this were the GSM variant then the updates could roll out as quickly as Google wants, but I'm afraid Verizon is going to slow things down a bit. This can be good or bad depending on your point of view, but in the end we will get ICS updates sooner than anyone else will.

I can agree with you on not keeping the phone for two years, but only because I find it hard to keep any phones for two years. ;) I'm very interested to see what Googorola has coming, but it is nice to know that if I want to wait a little longer this time around I can and not worry about being left behind with the OS or the hardware.

I hope you keep enjoying your phone. :D
 
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Good review, I'm really tempted to ditch my Razr Maxx and get the Nexus. If it wasn't for the battery i would be ALL over it, might still be anyways.

The following is based on a news article I read concerning the 4.0.3 Leak for the Razr. Also, I don't know the ROM situation with the Razor or if that's already available, so here goes:

Based on what I saw in the article mentioned above, if you like the RAZR hardware, I'd say stick it out for Moto's ICS update. From what I saw of the leak, it's pretty dang close to stock, with the major skinning done at the app level (dialer, email, etc.). That article has my hopes up that manufacturers will tone down their skins and let more of ICS shine through.

I haven't played with the Razr much (other than in-store fondling), but that hardware with a near-stock version of ICS would be beast IMHO.

Granted, the major caveat is not knowing the release cycle of ICS for it.
 
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I think with many of the new phones too much focus has been spent on thin at the expense of battery. I think in this regard the Maxx is hopefully a trend we will start seeing. Adding a little heft and thickness for better battery life would be a welcome advance for me. I actually put a case on my GNex to make it feel like it wouldn't slide out of my hands. These screens are nice (still can't speak to 4G:() but the battery demands can't keep up if the manufacturers keep trying to make the thinnest and lightest phones.
 
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Thanks for all the feedback. Sounds like my experience is kind of par for the course.

I did have one comment I remembered I had meant to include in my review: the unlock to camera function in 4.0 (4.0.3 at least). At least on my phone, if I go to the gallery after taking pictures, the next time I unlock to camera, instead of going to the camera so I can take a picture fast (the entire point of the feature if you ask me), it takes me back to the gallery, which requires two more touches to get back to where I can take pictures. This is something that really needs to be fixed now. The unlock to camera function should take me to the camera every single time, never to the gallery, no matter where I last was. That's the entire point of the feature. Have other people experienced this or does my phone have some weird glitch?

Second, can anyone explain to me the rapid charger thing? I have a physics background and can't understand how a different charger can charge a phone faster when the phone will only take 1A at 5V. I suppose my charger could be putting out less than 1A (not a super simple measurement to make), so that this is just a higher quality charger. Or is there something else about device charging that I'm missing?
 
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Thanks for all the feedback. Sounds like my experience is kind of par for the course.

I did have one comment I remembered I had meant to include in my review: the unlock to camera function in 4.0 (4.0.3 at least). At least on my phone, if I go to the gallery after taking pictures, the next time I unlock to camera, instead of going to the camera so I can take a picture fast (the entire point of the feature if you ask me), it takes me back to the gallery, which requires two more touches to get back to where I can take pictures. This is something that really needs to be fixed now. The unlock to camera function should take me to the camera every single time, never to the gallery, no matter where I last was. That's the entire point of the feature. Have other people experienced this or does my phone have some weird glitch?

Second, can anyone explain to me the rapid charger thing? I have a physics background and can't understand how a different charger can charge a phone faster when the phone will only take 1A at 5V. I suppose my charger could be putting out less than 1A (not a super simple measurement to make), so that this is just a higher quality charger. Or is there something else about device charging that I'm missing?


I just tried the gallery/camera/lock screen thing that you are talking about and I didn't experience the same thing. No matter how I tried it the camera still opened every time I went to that on the lock screen.

I tried:

unlock > open gallery > close gallery > lock phone > unlock to camera = Camera
unlock > open gallery > open image > close gallery > lock phone > unlock to camera = Camera
unlock > open gallery > lock phone > unlock to camera = Camera
unlock > open camera > open gallery from camera > open image > lock phone > unlock to camera = Camera
unlock > open camera > open gallery from camera > open image > close camera and gallery > unlock to Camera = Camera
 
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I just tried the gallery/camera/lock screen thing that you are talking about and I didn't experience the same thing. No matter how I tried it the camera still opened every time I went to that on the lock screen.

I tried:

unlock > open gallery > close gallery > lock phone > unlock to camera = Camera
unlock > open gallery > open image > close gallery > lock phone > unlock to camera = Camera
unlock > open gallery > lock phone > unlock to camera = Camera
unlock > open camera > open gallery from camera > open image > lock phone > unlock to camera = Camera
unlock > open camera > open gallery from camera > open image > close camera and gallery > unlock to Camera = Camera

My problem is that I forget its there.:D I'm still conditioned to unlocking the phone and holding down the camera button.:( So now I unlock the phone and go Doh, do I lock it and use the unlock to camera or do I just hit the icon:D
 
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I just tried the gallery/camera/lock screen thing that you are talking about and I didn't experience the same thing. No matter how I tried it the camera still opened every time I went to that on the lock screen.

I tried:

unlock > open gallery > close gallery > lock phone > unlock to camera = Camera
unlock > open gallery > open image > close gallery > lock phone > unlock to camera = Camera
unlock > open gallery > lock phone > unlock to camera = Camera
unlock > open camera > open gallery from camera > open image > lock phone > unlock to camera = Camera
unlock > open camera > open gallery from camera > open image > close camera and gallery > unlock to Camera = Camera

That's weird. I can reproduce it every time. Try this:

unlock to camera, take a picture, select the thumbnail of the picture you took (which brings you to some sort of "sharing" screen), touch the picture again (takes you to gallery), then touch home, lock and unlock (power button x2), and unlock to camera.

I get the gallery every time. Let me know what you get and if those directions are clear (as mud).
 
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My problem is that I forget its there.:D I'm still conditioned to unlocking the phone and holding down the camera button.:( So now I unlock the phone and go Doh, do I lock it and use the unlock to camera or do I just hit the icon:D

LOL I've done that a number of times.

That's weird. I can reproduce it every time. Try this:

unlock to camera, take a picture, select the thumbnail of the picture you took (which brings you to some sort of "sharing" screen), touch the picture again (takes you to gallery), then touch home, lock and unlock (power button x2), and unlock to camera.

I get the gallery every time. Let me know what you get and if those directions are clear (as mud).

Nope, straight to camera for me.
 
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Me too... ...maybe that's why they haven't pushed .03 or .04 yet? We're doing the beta testing for them.:D

That's always the case. I learned my lesson with my first Android phone. Too many bugs in many of the leaks. They beta test these updates to death for a reason. Think about some of the bugs that make it into updates and then think about what could have been there with no testing. :eek:
 
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I too came from the Inc and for me, battery life on the Gnex has been as good or better. Which admittedly is still not stellar but considering I jumped from 3G to LTE, I'm feeling pretty satisfied right now.

I agree that the Inc cam was slightly better in pic quality albeit marginally IMO. But the Gnex cam snaps pics faster which is more important to me. If I want to take serious pics, I'll be pulling out the Canon EOS anyway.

Good, fair review though.
 
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My biggest gripe is illustrated by this experience: I used the phone in my car the other day as a navigation device on a 1hr ish drive. It was connected to a strong LTE signal the entire time, but I wasn't using the phone for anything other than GPS. I had it plugged into a 2.1A car charger so it was getting as much juice as it can draw (and checked that it was in AC not USB mode -- side note: maybe they should change that to DC to be more precise and include wall/car charging). At the end of the drive, my battery had dropped ~10%! The inability to keep up with the power demands of a phone WHEN PLUGGED IN is just unacceptable. This means that if I want to use my phone as a GPS device for an extended period of time, I have to bring extra batteries with me, even if I AM PLUGGED IN THE ENTIRE TIME! I saw this in one review before buying the phone but figured it was a fluke. In my experience, it's not and should absolutely be called out more in the press.

This is not unique to the Nexus. My original droid was the same way and that was 3G. GPS uses a ton of power. So does LTE. Remember that Google Maps/Nav has to be connected to data to work. So it will maintain a constant connection to identify your location and track you on the map....even if your screen is off. This won't change so long as Google Nav works online. If you could cache your route and the maps offline and run without data it'd be fine, but until Google implements that you are SOL.

I am not surprised that being connected to both was more than the charger could keep up with.
 
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I've had three Android phones over the years, and the Nexus is definitely my favorite, despite all its problems (and it has problems, including the battery life). The good thing is that some of the problems can and do have fixes. For example, the autorotate is super slow on 4.0.2. I got the 4.0.4, and now it's zippy. I missed the search button, and there was a simple mod for rooted users to add it back in. The battery life sucks, but I use a Juice Defender-like Tasker profile, and it now lasts me all day and then some.

What I love about the phone is the screen, the ease of unlocking the bootloader and keeping the rom stock while also rooted, the developer community support, the soft buttons, vanilla Android, etc.

All the other annoyances don't matter that much to me.

The one thing that really bothers me that there'll never be a software update for is the sheer size of it. I like the screen. But I can't do one-handed navigation and WordFeud any more. That's okay. I'm willing to live with that.

The camera I actually love. Maybe it's because the cameras in my previous two Android phones (MyTouch 4G and MyTouch 3G) were so crappy, but the Nexus one seems excellent by comparison, and the zero shutter lag is a godsend.

I think the best thing for people considering a Nexus is to find a friend with one and ask to play with it for a bit. See if you like it. If you do, get it. If you don't, don't get it.
 
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I love it... one day after posting this, I notice that my 4G signal is lasting much longer than usual as I drive away from work. As I get closer to home, still have a signal. Home: 3 bars and 10+ Mbps download rates. The day after I bash Verizon's coverage maps, they turn on the signal. I'm going to have to complain more often!
 
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Hi everyone!

Just nosing around and figured I'd add 2 cents...as always :p

Okay...so fair warning...I'm "that" guy. I'm the guy who says if you are having battery issues, you need a custom ROM. After stabilization, most developers work on improving battery life and yes...I most always can tell significant improvements. Having said that, LTE is a battery killer and WiFi is MUCH easier on battery. Connect to WiFi when available.

The LTE Radio in this phone is not the best I have seen. From my testing, the Droid Razr (and even other "older" 4G phones like the Thunderbolt, Droid Charge, etc,) achieve better signal and hold 4G when the Nexus reverts to 3G. Not every market is the same but this is the worst 4G radio I've used. Really hoping for software updates that fix this. Haven't noticed the problems the OP mentioned about the battery draining in the car when being charged. I watch YouTube videos a lot in the car and despite more buffering issues due to the weaker radio...my phone gains a charge in the car if plugged in regardless of what I am using it for (YouTube, Pandora, Navigation, etc.).

Camera...yeah, it's a little on the unimpressive side. It's not a deal breaker by any means but the still camera is only decent, and the 1080p video capture is awful due to the jello effect. Not my favorite cell phone camera but I didn't buy it for that reason either so I'm not the harshest critic I'm sure.

This is a developer's phone...easy to root, lots of support, constant updates, etc. This is a major draw for this phone. If you are not rooted and rommed...then I encourage you to at least consider it...there are a lot of improvements to be had. See images below for a quick glimpse at some visual and functional improvements. After all...doesn't everyone need toggles in the notification drawer and a MiUi battery bar at the bottom so then can monitor battery when the notification header is not visible (during YouTube videos for example)? Just things I personally cannot be without based on how I like to use my device :)

Overall, this phone is the first phone that Verizon has released in a while that was a 2 year contract worthy phone. The next one was the Droid Razr Maxx simply because having good battery life never goes out of style. But my Nexus has been consistently providing me with 20-24 hour battery life with my usage patterns and that is a couple of hours more than the Razr (non Maxx version), and upwards of 8-10 hours more than my previous personal phone, the Thunderbolt.

One thing I have noticed (and I don't know if it is ICS in general, or possibly the custom ROMs I'm running) is that battery life will increase at times after usage. I will be playing a game or something else and notice that I am at 50% battery remaining (for example) when I put the phone down. I turn on the screen several minutes later and see my phone with 3-5% more battery life reporting. Again, not sure what's causing it...but it's a nice surprise to see the phone recalculating the remaining battery on the fly.

Hope everyone else is enjoying the Nexus as much as I am!

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