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What can't I do with a Razr Maxx that I can do with a VZW Nexus?

Mr. Glass

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Hello,

I am more than ready to upgrade from my Samsung Droid Charge, with which I had a relatively horrible experience (poor LTE reception/fall backs to 3G in areas with solid LTE signal, poor battery life even when locked to 3G, takes forever to charge, very long delays to begin route when using Google Nav...etc).

Like many, I am torn between the VZW Nexus and the Razr Maxx. I like the AOSP aspects of the Nexus, ICS, full customization and all that, but have been burned twice now by Samsung (AT&T Captivate, Droid Charge), and just don't know if I can trust their hardware, particularly their power management and GPS components, as they seem to repeatedly have issues across multiple handsets and carriers in these areas.

My manager at work had a VZW GNex as his primary device, running stock, and he ended up swapping out for a Maxx after experiencing random reboots, dropped calls/data, bluetooth connection dropping from his voice headset mid call, terrible battery life, and general software instability.

My question: What can't I do if I choose the Maxx? What are my software and hardware limitations (aside from NFC and the higher resolution screen on the Nexus)? I want to be able to root, do some customizations to really make the phone mine, remove bloatware, get fairly quick updates to new builds, optimize for snappy response/make UI changes, possibly unlock for global roaming in the future (the Maxx is rumored to be getting GSM roaming capability with a future update). After coming from two phones that drove me nuts (AT&T Dell Streak after the Captivate, and Droid Charge), I want a new device that surpasses my expectations and is a pleasure to use and tweak.

Battery life is not the biggest issue in the world for me as this will be a secondary phone (I have an HTC Rezound assigned to me by work am required by MDM policies to run stock, and my experience has been mainly positive), but usability, signal strength, responsive GPS, and especially the ability to recharge more quickly with a car charger and iGo power pack than my Droid Charge will. Currently, with my Droid Charge, by the time I reach a destination that I have been using Google Nav to get to, my battery level is sometimes lower than when I started, despite being plugged into a VZW branded or iGo car charger the entire time. I never experience this issue with my Rezound. I have anecdotally heard of this problem occurring with the VZW Nexus.

It seems that my software preferences are with the Nexus and hardware preferences with the Maxx.

I welcome your advice!!

-Glass
 
If you're considering the Maxx, try holding out a couple more weeks for more information about the Droid fighter that current leaks suggest might be launching on April 12th. As for the current match up between the maxx and nexus, the bootloader will be your biggest obstacle on the maxx. It will squash developer support compared to the nexus making your choice of customizations and roms very limited.
 
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I bought my Nexus on launch day. Got it replaced once, in the first 2 weeks, cos I got one with a bad screen (these things happen with every sector of tech).

My replacement Nexus has been perfect.

Before I unlocked the bootloader, rooted and slapped a custom ROM or seven on this bad boy, I felt like a Guinea Pig of ICS. But I knew THAT going in. It is what early adoption can be all about. 4.0.2 had some bugs and hiccups. Anyway, 4.0.4/5 is on its way out to users (modders and non-modders alike) very soon. In the meantime, I am running AOKP 4.0.4 B29 with LeanKernel 2.8 Stable. Love the customization and battery life the ROM and kernel offer.

With the RAZR MAXX, as for now, you are stuck with less options than the ones described above. If you want to be on the bleeding edge of what Android has to offer, even without modding, get a Nexus. If you don't care about that and rather care about battery life, get the MAXX. Or wait for the Droid Fighter.

Personally, the screen, OS version, freedom of modding, aesthetics and removable battery are the plusses for the Nexus.

The MAXX has the battery life, superior radios and more storage (16GB more) available to it. Build quality is nice, too. But honestly, its Moto's poor adaptation of Gingerbread that steered me away from the original Droid RAZR. Coming from running mostly AOSP Gingerbread ROMs on other devices previous to getting the Nexus, the RAZR's Gingerbread is buggy and spastic.

Seriously don't hate Moto here, promise. I would love a Moto Nexus. Yes I am biased toward Stock Android, but only because it means stability and compatibility for me. Now that I have a Nexus, I appreciate it even more, because it is the first Android device I have owned that was built to run Android the way it is intended. And lastly, the ROMs are so very stable.

/rant.

jmar
 
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For the record, I don't have reception problems. Now, I live in San Jose, CA. I have always had great reception and data speeds with VZW.

As far as battery life, the main draw of battery in the Nexus is its screen, but that is the price you pay for a 720p HD screen. I will take it. Plus, I have two batteries and run a very efficient kernel to optimize battery life. It will shut down one core when not needed and runs at the minimum scale speed (350 MHz) 70% of the time, without showing any performance problems. None of that is possible with the RAZR.

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I've actually come very close to replacing my Galaxy Nexus for a RAZR Maxx. I've never modded a phone so locked vs. unlocked doesn't really matter to me. I am experiencing the same issue your manager went through with poor reception. Call reception has been pretty good for me, but I have poor data reception at work. There is buzz that an OTA update is on it's way in April and may address this issue. If you're into modding your phone, many here have had success achieving better reception with leaked updates.

I am a moderate to heavy user and I kill the battery once or twice a day in my GNex. I carry an extra battery and swap it daily. That said, battery life seems average as compared to my Thunderbolt and I was already acclimated to battery swaps with TB. I can usually make it 5 hours with moderate to heavy use on the stock battery.

Something else to consider is accessories. I was watching a commercial for RAZR last night that seemed to focus on integration with accessories. Of course they have the lap docks available, but I think there are OEM car mounts that work with an encased RAZR. That commercial also featured a pretty cool home dock. If you've been following this forum, no doubt you've seen that VZW's GNex car dock is little more than a holder. Unless I'm going for a long drive, I don't even bother to use it because it's such a pain to dock the phone (take it out of it's case, mount it, plug in the power cable, plug in the audio jack). From what I've read here, there is hope that the update will also allow for docking the GNex via the pogo pin connection. I hope this is true as it would be sweet to have that capability in a car dock.

If the rumored OTA update fixes my reception issue, I'm keeping (and loving) my GNex. Otherwise my plan is to do what jhawkkw suggested and wait for the next Motorola 4G device with an HD screen and baked in 4.x. I just hope the ICS experience won't be too affected by Moto's skin.
 
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If rooting and Modding are #1 on your list. Then the Gnex is your answer. Moto's locked bootloader will prevent having great Roms like the GNex already has.

just to add. I and a lot of other guides here on AF and even a Mod or two probably all used to have the DX. It was a great device. It had some decent roms for it. But after having to work around the locked bootloader on that thing almost all of us have swore to never own another Moto device that has a locked bootloader. ...most of us have the G Nex now.
 
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Aside from the screen the developer support (thanks to the unlocked bootloader and Nexus status) is the main advantage of the Nexus. Other than that Nexus has removable battery, Maxx has removable storage. Don't know how reception is on the Maxx, but generally Motorola>Samsung. Nexus has the 4460 which is a little better than the 4430 in the Maxx, and a higher clocked sgx 540. It comes down to which features you prefer, which ones are a priority for you.
 
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Thank you everybody for all of your input.

I have decided to go with the GNex for the additional customization capability.

It will arrive on Friday and I look forward to customizing this weekend. Can you please point me in the direction of a good thread for advice on the latest ROM and kernel for best balance of performance, reception, and battery life?

-Glass
 
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For the record, I don't have reception problems. Now, I live in San Jose, CA. I have always had great reception and data speeds with VZW.

As far as battery life, the main draw of battery in the Nexus is its screen, but that is the price you pay for a 720p HD screen. I will take it. Plus, I have two batteries and run a very efficient kernel to optimize battery life. It will shut down one core when not needed and runs at the minimum scale speed (350 MHz) 70% of the time, without showing any performance problems. None of that is possible with the RAZR.

My 2
 
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Thank you everybody for all of your input.

I have decided to go with the GNex for the additional customization capability.

It will arrive on Friday and I look forward to customizing this weekend. Can you please point me in the direction of a good thread for advice on the latest ROM and kernel for best balance of performance, reception, and battery life?

-Glass

Google "Wugs galaxy nexus root toolkit" its a simple interface to unlock and root your device and throw Clockwork Mod on it. i HIGHLY suggest paying up for the touch CWM. make flashing so much easier.

"TOP DOG" ROM for the nexus is AOKP. there are PLENTY out there, but i think AOKP has the most customization. Build 29 is the latest version and is built off the 4.0.4 source.

throw on the 4.0.4 radios

purchase Franko's kernal app, and flash the latest stable kernal

that is what i am on, great battery (talking like 2.5hrs screen on time 14 hrs off charger on constant 4g) stability, great looks, and very fast.
 
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Thank you everybody for all of your input.

I have decided to go with the GNex for the additional customization capability.

It will arrive on Friday and I look forward to customizing this weekend. Can you please point me in the direction of a good thread for advice on the latest ROM and kernel for best balance of performance, reception, and battery life?

-Glass

Day 1 make sure you unlock the bootloader/root/install custom recovery and do a backup immediately.

then have tons of flashing fun.

bookmark these guides.

http://androidforums.com/verizon-ga...how-all-things-root-samsung-galaxy-nexus.html

http://androidforums.com/verizon-ga...ll-things-root-guide-updated-3-25-2012-a.html

and here is WugFresh's toolkit

Wug's Galaxy Nexus Root Toolkit
 
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Thank you everybody for all of your input.

I have decided to go with the GNex for the additional customization capability.

It will arrive on Friday and I look forward to customizing this weekend. Can you please point me in the direction of a good thread for advice on the latest ROM and kernel for best balance of performance, reception, and battery life?

-Glass

Rootzwiki galaxy nexus cdma forum is a good place to start if you want to see a large variety of roms. They have a thread dedicated to each one and 2 of the big ones (AOKP and Code Name Android) have their own sub forums. They also have most of the kernels.
 
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