Verizon Pre-order, Release date, and speculation thread

Wolfedude88 · Apr 3, 2012

alexander323bc said:
Does anyone know a simply short answer why U.S. LTE tech wont work with the quad-core?

It is because it is new tech and they haven't got then working together yet. This all just takes time.

xtop · Apr 3, 2012

jackdubl said:
This is correct. Even the HTC One series is slated to have dual-core processors on their US versions. So Samsung will probably have to do the same. Highly doubtful their new in-house processor(which IS quad-core and DOES work with lte) makes it into this phone.

why not?

alexander323bc said:
Does anyone know a simply short answer why U.S. LTE tech wont work with the quad-core?

ask nvidia. core count doesn't matter.

Sandroidfan · Apr 4, 2012

Marrying quad core with LTE is not technically impossible just because it didn't happen yet. I think what matters more is the architecture of processor, not just number of cores here. Dual cortex A15 chips like exynos 5250 would be more difficult to make it work with LTE than quad cortex A9 chips like tegra3, exynos 4412.

I am sure quad core/LTE is coming this year at least by late Q3. Nvidia, Qualcomm, Samsung are all working on it. Last year some doubted dual core/LTE in phone as Motorola pushed back Bionic over and over.

Wontfinishlast · Apr 4, 2012

http://androidforums.com/showthread.php?p=4173386

According to the article posted by xtop, the exynos quad core does indeed have lte...

jackdubl · Apr 4, 2012

xtop said:
why not?

Just because it's so new and the phone itself is already about to start production. I doubt the can rush the chip into the phone.

Wontfinishlast · Apr 4, 2012

jackdubl said:
Just because it's so new and the phone itself is already about to start production. I doubt the can rush the chip into the phone.

That quad core chip is the minimum we should expect in this phone. I'm really hoping the can somehow up it to the 5250 dual core chipset... Those a15 cores would blow everything else totally out of the water right now.

Sandroidfan · Apr 4, 2012

jackdubl said:
Just because it's so new and the phone itself is already about to start production. I doubt the can rush the chip into the phone.

But that's what you are assuming. We don't know exactly since when they have been developing new Exynos. Certainly they didn't start developing it just a few months ago. It should be last Fall at least or even further back.

Ibrick · Apr 4, 2012

Wontfinishlast said:
http://androidforums.com/showthread.php?p=4173386

According to the article posted by xtop, the exynos quad core does indeed have lte...

Which is why I'm hoping they stick the 5250 in there because the 5000 series of Exynos processors do work with LTE.

Until then, I believe the most powerful chipset that works with LTE is Qualcomm's S4.

xtop · Apr 4, 2012

jackdubl said:
Just because it's so new and the phone itself is already about to start production. I doubt the can rush the chip into the phone.

sounds like a pretty big assumption, but ok

jackdubl · Apr 4, 2012

xtop said:
sounds like a pretty big assumption, but ok

Actually, it isn't an assumption at all. It's less than an assumption; it's a guess. Sheesh, what do you guys want? This IS a rumor thread. Is my guess/assumption worth any less than your hope? 'Cause that's all anyone who is pushing for the 5000 series quad core has, unless you guys know something I don't.

And it's so new also isn't an assumption, unless you can name a phone that has that chip in it. Not in any phone yet=new, at least to me.

Wontfinishlast · Apr 4, 2012

jackdubl said:
Actually, it isn't an assumption at all. It's less than an assumption; it's a guess. Sheesh, what do you guys want? This IS a rumor thread. Is my guess/assumption worth any less than your hope?

Youre opinion is wrong!!!

Haha well I'll settle for w/e they put in it as long as its lte compatible. They can't put anything worse performing than the s4 in it. Can they??? No... thats just crazy talk......

xtop · Apr 4, 2012

jackdubl said:
Actually, it isn't an assumption at all. It's less than an assumption; it's a guess. Sheesh, what do you guys want? This IS a rumor thread. Is my guess/assumption worth any less than your hope? 'Cause that's all anyone who is pushing for the 5000 series quad core has, unless you guys know something I don't.

And it's so new also isn't an assumption, unless you can name a phone that has that chip in it. Not in any phone yet=new, at least to me.

just don't know why the new chip that's been rumored to be in this phone for months, wouldn't be in the phone because its too new. too new for what? i'm confused. lol

crt134 · Apr 5, 2012

xtop said:
just don't know why the new chip that's been rumored to be in this phone for months, wouldn't be in the phone because its too new. too new for what? i'm confused. lol

Yeah I'm with you on this one. Isn't this exactly the kind of thing Samsung developed this chip for? Just because Tegra 3 (overrated) doesn't support LTE, that doesn't mean Samsung can't release their own product with quad core LTE support 6 months later. This phone is launching with an Exynos quad core processor and LTE, BEFORE independence day, of that I have little doubt

alexander323bc · Apr 5, 2012

crt134 said:
Yeah I'm with you on this one. Isn't this exactly the kind of thing Samsung developed this chip for? Just because Tegra 3 (overrated) doesn't support LTE, that doesn't mean Samsung can't release their own product with quad core LTE support 6 months later. This phone is launching with an Exynos quad core processor and LTE, BEFORE independence day, of that I have little doubt

Its not so much the question of lauching with a quadcore processor because I believe it will. The question is whether the phone is coming to verizon with a quad-core. If it does not then whats the advantage of it over the nexus?

Sandroidfan · Apr 5, 2012

alexander323bc said:
Its not so much the question of lauching with a quadcore processor because I believe it will. The question is whether the phone is coming to verizon with a quad-core. If it does not then whats the advantage of it over the nexus?

We are too hung up on quad core thing I think. It's not necessarily quad core >> dual core. Dual core A15 processor will be better than quad core A9 processor.

So more important question is when or if will new Exynos (quad A9 or dual A15) work with LTE radio. That's what Samsung has been working on from last year. I think verizon will get version of SIII by Q4. If not new Exynos/LTE one, they will get maybe Krait S4/LTE version. Krait S4 with integrated LTE is much more powerful and efficient than OMAP 4460 in nexus.

alexander323bc · Apr 5, 2012

Sandroidfan said:
We are too hung up on quad core thing I think. It's not necessarily quad core >> dual core. Dual core A15 processor will be better than dual core A9 processor.

So more important question is when or if will new Exynos (quad A9 or dual A15) work with LTE radio. That's what Samsung has been working on from last year. I think verizon will get version of SIII by Q4. If not new Exynos/LTE one, they will get maybe Krait S4/LTE version. Krait S4 with integrated LTE is much more powerful and efficient than OMAP 4460 in nexus.

You lost me

Sandroidfan · Apr 5, 2012

alexander323bc said:
You lost me

I had a misleading typo, which I just corrected.

Sorry if you are not familiar with those names of chips. The point is no quad core is not necessarily bad thing performance wise.

alexander323bc · Apr 5, 2012

sanddroid you seem to be very logical. Am I going to be missing anything ground shattering by upgrading to the nexus in the next couple weeks as opposed to waiting for the s3. The lte speeds arnt going to be any faster correct? The nexus I believe I can root now and be able to run android tether if need be.

xtop · Apr 5, 2012

alexander323bc said:
sanddroid you seem to be very logical. Am I going to be missing anything ground shattering by upgrading to the nexus in the next couple weeks as opposed to waiting for the s3. The lte speeds arnt going to be any faster correct? The nexus I believe I can root now and be able to run android tether if need be.

lte speeds will be the same. s3 will undoubtedly be faster and get better battery life though. and every phone is able to be rooted (as far as i'm aware), so thats not something to be worried about

if you can't wait. buy the nexus now and sell it when the s3 releases and buy it for the off contract price.

alexander323bc · Apr 5, 2012

Ok thanks

Sandroidfan · Apr 7, 2012

alexander323bc said:
sanddroid you seem to be very logical. Am I going to be missing anything ground shattering by upgrading to the nexus in the next couple weeks as opposed to waiting for the s3. The lte speeds arnt going to be any faster correct? The nexus I believe I can root now and be able to run android tether if need be.

xtop already answered your question well. My answer would be the same. Galaxy Nexus is still very decent phone with the latest stock ICS from Google. But I'm expecting to see next level of CPU/GPU performance in GSIII and also a little better battery life, camera. Other than those things, Nexus won't miss anything big.

jerofld · Apr 9, 2012

Sandroidfan said:
We are too hung up on quad core thing I think. It's not necessarily quad core >> dual core. Dual core A15 processor will be better than quad core A9 processor.

So more important question is when or if will new Exynos (quad A9 or dual A15) work with LTE radio. That's what Samsung has been working on from last year. I think verizon will get version of SIII by Q4. If not new Exynos/LTE one, they will get maybe Krait S4/LTE version. Krait S4 with integrated LTE is much more powerful and efficient than OMAP 4460 in nexus.

I agree with you on this. I much rather have dual A15s than quad A9s. And while I'm a Sprint guy, I'm assuming Sprint will get an identical configuration to Verizon (in regards to processor and just name the phone something goofy). And I'm hoping that's the Exynos chipset. Qualcomm makes some good processors, but the Exynos looks so much better.

Android26 · Apr 10, 2012

I don't think Verizon will get the SGS3 on day 1 no matter what. I think (if they do end up getting the phone) they'll get a late-coming, mildly altered version that is catered to the VZW network. Just like what happened with the original Galaxy S and the Galaxy Nexus. Plus, I think the iPhone 5 will have a similar issue.

When Samsung announced the Galaxy Nexus, there had to be another model made specifically for Verizon that was a little thicker, that debuted like weeks later, and that was able to work on LTE radio. And I think the same kinda thing will happen again here OR they'll opt out completely and have the iPhone 5 as their sole flagship phone of late 2012.

alexander323bc · Apr 10, 2012

Android26 said:
I don't think Verizon will get the SGS3 on day 1 no matter what. I think (if they do end up getting the phone) they'll get a late-coming, mildly altered version that is catered to the VZW network. Just like what happened with the original Galaxy S and the Galaxy Nexus. Plus, I think the iPhone 5 will have a similar issue.

When Samsung announced the Galaxy Nexus, there had to be another model made specifically for Verizon that was a little thicker, that debuted like weeks later, and that was able to work on LTE radio. And I think the same kinda thing will happen again here OR they'll opt out completely and have the iPhone 5 as their sole flagship phone of late 2012.

This is mine line of thinking. Although I do not think the the Iphone 5 will be the only premier phone for Verizon. Samsung is way to big a vendor for Verizon to pass up on the S3. Its not really a question of if Verizon will get the S3 its more of a question of what model and what specs it has. We all now how many different variations of the S2 there are. I am really thinking that if this phone is released before august it will be dual-core LTE not a quad. I think the first quad-core LTE you going to see maybe the iPhone 5. I could be wrong but it just seems to playing out this way.

Lock-N-Load · Apr 17, 2012

Android26 said:
I don't think Verizon will get the SGS3 on day 1 no matter what. I think (if they do end up getting the phone) they'll get a late-coming, mildly altered version that is catered to the VZW network. Just like what happened with the original Galaxy S and the Galaxy Nexus. Plus, I think the iPhone 5 will have a similar issue.

When Samsung announced the Galaxy Nexus, there had to be another model made specifically for Verizon that was a little thicker, that debuted like weeks later, and that was able to work on LTE radio. And I think the same kinda thing will happen again here OR they'll opt out completely and have the iPhone 5 as their sole flagship phone of late 2012.

It had to be thicker because of the CDMA radio in it. And the GN was/is a joke of a phone in terms of hardware (camera, radios used, etc) and quality materials (100% cheap az plastic) and the only reason it sold was ICS out of the box - and where is it now? Still waiting for updates.

Anyway, I do agree that IF it comes, not likely, VZW will F*** it up and bastardize it so much, it won't be what I believe is coming and hooked on.

Now, the only newer rumored somewhat possible maybe kind of good news is that it is rumored to maybe have an Exynos 4412 quad-core chipset on board, which is also rumored to work with LTE (i.e., Verizon) unlike other quad-core processors.

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