I plan to get this phone. Who's with me?

PyroSporker · Apr 28, 2012

EarlyMon said:
She might not like the LTEvo for its size - she really liked the Shift. Anyway, I think that if she had the chance to enjoy the new screen, she might keep it - and I know that she'll like Image Sense, she's always using her phone camera.

I guess that the most I would have to do would be to wait until November for our next upgrade.

Hmmm. Bummer on the waterlogged Shift. Hopefully it is not hosed.
If it was me I would find a temporary Evo/other without wasting an upgrade on it. Maybe on the forum classifieds or other source you can find a good quality deal then you can upgrade later once something new comes out? Why waste a good upgrade you know what I mean? Obviously your guys' decision to make, I just know how valued an upgrade is.

In the meantime, I've been meaning to post this update somewhere. A few guys mentioned in the Evo LTE forum here they tried out the One X but they never added a source or details on how they tried it out. Anyway, went to an At&t store on Thursday on the offchance they had a rep there carrying the phone. Turns out they already have a public display set up! Depending where in the world you are, you and the Wifelymon could go check out the SLCD2 display, size comparison, and ImageSense to help you come to a decision and strategize your upgrades.

Just wanted to post it in black and white, since I haven't seen anyone else specifically say it.
AT&T stores have the One X on display and ready to be tested out.

(I went to a primary store, using their store locator, not a secondary franchise or mall kiosk - not all stores especially smaller secondary stores may not have it? YMMV)

EarlyMon · Apr 28, 2012

Never gave up my Evo, use it as a wifi appliance, so that part's easy.

Taking her to see something that she can't buy if she likes it is not in my best interests - trust me.

But when time permits, I'll be checking out the X.

PyroSporker · Apr 28, 2012

EarlyMon said:
Never gave up my Evo, use it as a wifi appliance, so that part's easy.

Taking her to see something that she can't buy if she likes it is not in my best interests - trust me.

But when time permits, I'll be checking out the X.

Oh I see, you are good then. I thought you didn't have a backup plan and an upgrade would be wasted. My bad.

Haha

I know what you mean and you are certainly right about that

Well hopefully the One X info is beneficial to others since I dont think anyone else has mentioned it flat out

EarlyMon · Apr 29, 2012

Still probably going for EL TEvo early on, but I just have to say this -

I love the build quality and the design of the Evo Shift. It's already dry and everything works. First drowned phone I've had that didn't get water between the screen and glass, and the inner chassis is vented on all four sides - no place to trap water I guess. What a tank.

aeiou · May 2, 2012

drexappeal said:
This makes me think u shouldn't even bother with android anymore and just go with an iphone. Anybody that didn't have a great experience just from android alone on the Evo, regardless of wimax strength, really shouldn't stick with the os, IMO.

I think the android os kills the iphone as far as customizability towards each individual's needs.

My experience with Android is fine. The problem was the fake 4G and the idea that I was going to be getting a cutting edge phone that was suppose to be super fast. Plus considering Baltimore was one the first markets I thought it was a good investment. My only point was that I am not going to rush out to get the new Evo since there is no LTE. Might as well see what the iphone 5 will offer and even if the 5 doesnt have 4g LTE, then both phones will be equal.

drexappeal · May 2, 2012

aeiou said:
My experience with Android is fine. The problem was the fake 4G and the idea that I was going to be getting a cutting edge phone that was suppose to be super fast. Plus considering Baltimore was one the first markets I thought it was a good investment. My only point was that I am not going to rush out to get the new Evo since there is no LTE. Might as well see what the iphone 5 will offer and even if the 5 doesnt have 4g LTE, then both phones will be equal.

Tech moves so fast nowadays, that I wouldn't bank on any device a person is considering purchasing as a "good investment," especially when it comes to mobile phone tech (which is pretty much a 6 month window, nowadays, until a device becomes somewhat "outdated").

This proves my main point. Despite the "fake 4G" (as you call it), I still loved my original EVO. And I did have 4G signal at my work from the day I purchased my EVO 2 years ago. The signal was always spotty, never got better, but at that point it didn't even matter to me because I fell in love with the Android OS, as compared to any of the OS' in the market.

In your case, it seems as if you've already made up your mind that, if the iPhone 5 has a LTE radio, there's nothing that'll beat it. That's the main reason why I say that Android doesn't seem to be the proper OS for you. The specs on all the newest mobile phones are all starting to get extremely blurred and to have it set in one's mind that Apple just does it the best...well, I can't see any rationale reason to ever consider Android devices because that falls in line with many consumers out there that just want the iPhone...because it's the iPhone. It's that same mentality that caused people to create this video:
iPhone4 vs HTC Evo - YouTube

EarlyMon · May 2, 2012

Language above is NSFW.

But funny tho.

In any case, there's only the right phone for each of us at any point in time.

aeiou, if you do end up with an iPhone, great, you'll still always be welcome here.

BenChase7 · May 2, 2012

aeiou said:
My experience with Android is fine. The problem was the fake 4G and the idea that I was going to be getting a cutting edge phone that was suppose to be super fast. Plus considering Baltimore was one the first markets I thought it was a good investment. My only point was that I am not going to rush out to get the new Evo since there is no LTE. Might as well see what the iphone 5 will offer and even if the 5 doesnt have 4g LTE, then both phones will be equal.

Just an FYI, Baltimore already has numerous sites that have been upgraded with Network Vision. ...more added every day.

Live Network Vision Sites Nationwide Map Screenshot - May 1, 2012 - Sprint 4G Rollout Updates

burgertime · May 3, 2012

BenChase7 said:
Just an FYI, Baltimore already has numerous sites that have been upgraded with Network Vision. ...more added every day.

Live Network Vision Sites Nationwide Map Screenshot - May 1, 2012 - Sprint 4G Rollout Updates

To add on top of that I went to Baltimore when I first got my Evo4g and tested the 4g...I went downtown and around the airport. I had great service. I was getting about 4 gigs down...which at the time was pretty amazing.

RagingSamster · May 3, 2012

I'm planning on it - The camera, screen size and memory have pushed me over the edge. I was going to wait and see what the Galaxy S 3 is all about, but I really like all the features on this model and my Evo ( replaced two months after I got it due to charging port breakage) has been a sturdy and trustworthy companion. I was considering iphone as well, but the lack of screen real estate made that a non-starter, as well as the apple keyboard is suckage incarnate.

aeiou · May 3, 2012

drexappeal said:
Tech moves so fast nowadays, that I wouldn't bank on any device a person is considering purchasing as a "good investment," especially when it comes to mobile phone tech (which is pretty much a 6 month window, nowadays, until a device becomes somewhat "outdated").

This proves my main point. Despite the "fake 4G" (as you call it), I still loved my original EVO. And I did have 4G signal at my work from the day I purchased my EVO 2 years ago. The signal was always spotty, never got better, but at that point it didn't even matter to me because I fell in love with the Android OS, as compared to any of the OS' in the market.

In your case, it seems as if you've already made up your mind that, if the iPhone 5 has a LTE radio, there's nothing that'll beat it. That's the main reason why I say that Android doesn't seem to be the proper OS for you. The specs on all the newest mobile phones are all starting to get extremely blurred and to have it set in one's mind that Apple just does it the best...well, I can't see any rationale reason to ever consider Android devices because that falls in line with many consumers out there that just want the iPhone...because it's the iPhone. It's that same mentality that caused people to create this video:

As I stated earlier, im no fan boy and could careless about the battle between Android and Apple. I just want the best phone for me. I live in Baltimore and anyone talking about amazing 4G speeds are lying to themselves (which is something fan boys do). It got to a point where I just dont bother cutting the 4g on. In my office alone there are 3 other people that have Evo, and we all said the same thing. The 4g signal is a joke. I sit by the window and if I could take a snap shot of the 4g searchig for signal I would.

My whole point was, why would I go out and get a LTE phone when the carrier doesnt even offer it in my area. I might as well wait and see what else comes out. Whether thats the 5 or another Android phone. Even if the 5 doesnt support LTE, then it will be the same as this phone that does support LTE, yet cant get to it because its not available.

I understand you love Android and trust me, I wouldve loved to stick it to my friends who have iphones, but when their phones were outperforming my "next gen 4g" on simple task, it was embarrassing to say the least. And that was with "4g" turned on. :dong:

aeiou · May 3, 2012

BenChase7 said:
Just an FYI, Baltimore already has numerous sites that have been upgraded with Network Vision. ...more added every day.

Live Network Vision Sites Nationwide Map Screenshot - May 1, 2012 - Sprint 4G Rollout Updates

I'm sorry, but what does this mean? I have yet to see any improvements.

burgertime · May 3, 2012

aeiou said:
As I stated earlier, im no fan boy and could careless about the battle between Android and Apple. I just want the best phone for me. I live in Baltimore and anyone talking about amazing 4G speeds are lying to themselves (which is something fan boys do). It got to a point where I just dont bother cutting the 4g on. In my office alone there are 3 other people that have Evo, and we all said the same thing. The 4g signal is a joke. I sit by the window and if I could take a snap shot of the 4g searchig for signal I would.

My whole point was, why would I go out and get a LTE phone when the carrier doesnt even offer it in my area. I might as well wait and see what else comes out. Whether thats the 5 or another Android phone. Even if the 5 doesnt support LTE, then it will be the same as this phone that does support LTE, yet cant get to it because its not available.

I understand you love Android and trust me, I wouldve loved to stick it to my friends who have iphones, but when their phones were outperforming my "next gen 4g" on simple task, it was embarrassing to say the least. And that was with "4g" turned on. :dong:

I'm a little confused by the bolded....well yea if your 4g is not working or getting signal of course it will probably lose against an iPhone. I'm suspecting these iPhones were on Verizon/AT&T which both have better 3g speeds than Sprint. Take into account if you're getting very spotty 4g coverage and it's on you may actually loose a little speed as the signal is going in and out.

I was staying right besides the airport in Baltimore and in downtown. I had just purchased the Evo and was getting 4 gigs down which again was pretty amazing back then. Not sure if something changed in B-more but again that's just what I had. I might even have a screen cap laying around here somewhere of it. At the time I also had the hot spot on they supplied for free and 4 people in the room were using it as it was faster than the wifi available.

drexappeal · May 3, 2012

aeiou said:
As I stated earlier, im no fan boy and could careless about the battle between Android and Apple. I just want the best phone for me. I live in Baltimore and anyone talking about amazing 4G speeds are lying to themselves (which is something fan boys do). It got to a point where I just dont bother cutting the 4g on. In my office alone there are 3 other people that have Evo, and we all said the same thing. The 4g signal is a joke. I sit by the window and if I could take a snap shot of the 4g searchig for signal I would.

My whole point was, why would I go out and get a LTE phone when the carrier doesnt even offer it in my area. I might as well wait and see what else comes out. Whether thats the 5 or another Android phone. Even if the 5 doesnt support LTE, then it will be the same as this phone that does support LTE, yet cant get to it because its not available.

I understand you love Android and trust me, I wouldve loved to stick it to my friends who have iphones, but when their phones were outperforming my "next gen 4g" on simple task, it was embarrassing to say the least. And that was with "4g" turned on. :dong:

I completely understand what you're saying and your main point, but the signal doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the phones overall performance. That's Sprint. If that's your biggest complaint, I think you're on the wrong provider, quite honestly.

I remember you though, from the EVO forums, and I know you have a propensity to being a little on the cautious side, so I completely understand.

Sauske · May 3, 2012

aeiou said:
As I stated earlier, im no fan boy and could careless about the battle between Android and Apple. I just want the best phone for me. I live in Baltimore and anyone talking about amazing 4G speeds are lying to themselves (which is something fan boys do). It got to a point where I just dont bother cutting the 4g on. In my office alone there are 3 other people that have Evo, and we all said the same thing. The 4g signal is a joke. I sit by the window and if I could take a snap shot of the 4g searchig for signal I would.

My whole point was, why would I go out and get a LTE phone when the carrier doesnt even offer it in my area. I might as well wait and see what else comes out. Whether thats the 5 or another Android phone. Even if the 5 doesnt support LTE, then it will be the same as this phone that does support LTE, yet cant get to it because its not available.

I understand you love Android and trust me, I wouldve loved to stick it to my friends who have iphones, but when their phones were outperforming my "next gen 4g" on simple task, it was embarrassing to say the least. And that was with "4g" turned on. :dong:

Just switch to another carrier and get another phone (what that carrier offer), a suggestion at best!

EarlyMon · May 3, 2012

WiMax sucked in a lot of ways for a lot of people.

Bad latency, inconsistent speeds, battery hogging, and commonly being unable to penetrate walls or operate in a noisy environment.

Lost Sprint a lot of goodwill as well as customers.

I can well respect the adage, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

Objectively though, if Sprint's Network Vision claims come true then Sprint will be the place to be. So, I am not recommending that anyone switch away and get locked into another carrier. I still like Sprint myself and recommend it.

I can see wanting to avoid further 4G embarrassment and just choosing something else right for you before switching carriers.

People switch back and forth between Android and the iPhone all of the time. And that's OK. It's not like any phone operating system or hardware maker is perfect.

All we know about the LTEvo and the next iPhone is mostly conjecture. A lot of folks are making decisions early betting on those conjecture as we see them - I know I am.

Rather than leave Sprint, I say see how Network Vision shakes out, when it's coming, and weigh that against your personal phone priorities. In other words, shop smart, per usual.

It's not if, it's when everyone will be clamoring to Sprint and Android phones with LTE if Network Vision keeps its promises. Until then, let's not tell anyone to leave just as it's about to break loose.

We're all in this together.

drexappeal · May 3, 2012

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EarlyMon · May 3, 2012

aeiou said:
I'm sorry, but what does this mean? I have yet to see any improvements.

Network Vision, the name for the next generation of cellular service from Sprint, involves upgrading all 32k+ towers, changing frequencies for better reach in distance and noisy environments, upgrading all of the data centers (20 to 30 of them as I recall), and upgrading the backhaul, aka, the land-based network tying it all together. It will affect 3G and LTE, and do nothing about WiMax.

Depending on the problems in anyone's area, the tower changes alone may be enough, or maybe you'll need the whole solution.

And this LTE step is simply the first frequency, others are expected to follow over the next two years.

Having your city listed on the buildout and seeing evidence of it happening is a good thing, but it's not an indicator for everyone that it's party time.

Sprint, despite starting late, will complete Network Vision before Verizon finishes their LTE rollout, and ATT isn't putting LTE everywhere.

Like anything else with cell phones, you will have to verify how things are going for your area, and a few of us are posting info as it breaks.

BenChase7 · May 3, 2012

aeiou said:
I'm sorry, but what does this mean? I have yet to see any improvements.

I think EM summed it up pretty well. The upgrades are being done where you live (Baltimore), as you can see on the map, so you are in a great spot, especially if you upgrade to an LTE phone. Just because the towers are upgraded, does not necessarily mean you will see upgrades this very second.. but they are there and ready to go.. Sprint will soon be "activating" the new equipment. More towers are being upgraded every day, too. However, your wimax will remain untouched.. Sprint is done with that and is moving on to bigger and better things... Like LTE throughout the entire network (and all the other advances Sprints Network Vision includes.. like 1x-Advanced, DO-Advanced, LTE, 800mhz frequencies, RRU's for stronger signal, Fiber and Microwave back-haul) (like EM said).

If you want more details on NV, read this link: Network Vision Explained - Sprint 4G Rollout Updates

Network Vision 2012 schedule: http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/

JMac202 · May 3, 2012

I switched to AT&T to get the Galaxy Note and once again Samsung has left a sour taste in my mouth with their crappy radios and shotty GPS. Plus I dont get service with AT&T in areas I frequent out hunting in the spring and winter that I did with Sprint. With a 9 month old little boy a cell phone is a must in case of an emergency. Unfortunately my 30 days had passed when I found I didnt have service where I needed it. I'm talking nothing not a shred of signal. So I'm paying the $300 etf and going back to Sprint. I'll sell the note and pay the ETF that way. I'm sticking to HTC phones from now on. Ive had nothing but good luck with them.

drexappeal · May 3, 2012

JMac202 said:
I switched to AT&T to get the Galaxy Note and once again Samsung has left a sour taste in my mouth with their crappy radios and shotty GPS. Plus I dont get service with AT&T in areas I frequent out hunting in the spring and winter that I did with Sprint. With a 9 month old little boy a cell phone is a must in case of an emergency. Unfortunately my 30 days had passed when I found I didnt have service where I needed it. I'm talking nothing not a shred of signal. So I'm paying the $300 etf and going back to Sprint. I'll sell the note and pay the ETF that way. I'm sticking to HTC phones from now on. Ive had nothing but good luck with them.

How far from the 30 days are you? Did you at least try to see if ATT would make an exception for you? That's gotta be an awful feeling finding that out, just when you're out of the return window.

JMac202 · May 3, 2012

drexappeal said:
How far from the 30 days are you? Did you at least try to see if ATT would make an exception for you? That's gotta be an awful feeling finding that out, just when you're out of the return window.

I bought it at the end of February. Works fine for the most part in town but when I went out turkey hunting which started May 11th I didn't have signal except in one area I hunt. Went out of town again this past weekend to another spot I hunt and my phone had nothing. Not even roaming.

I had very good signal with Sprint in both of these areas.

I talked to them about it and they said that coverage isn't guaranteed everywhere. Which I understand. They said that my contract is valid and to cancel would be a 350.00 ETF. It would probably help if I got someone that spoke clear english. Lol

I got pretty upset the other day with full signal and 4G (HSPA+) it took my Note over 15 seconds to open a text email. No pics in it. Nothing major to download. Maybe a 2 kb email if that. I thought that was f'n redic.

Even with Sprint's 3G I never had data that slow. Lol

drexappeal · May 3, 2012

JMac202 said:
I bought it at the end of February. Works fine for the most part in town but when I went out turkey hunting which started May 11th I didn't have signal except in one area I hunt. Went out of town again this past weekend to another spot I hunt and my phone had nothing. Not even roaming.

I had very good signal with Sprint in both of these areas.

I talked to them about it and they said that coverage isn't guaranteed everywhere. Which I understand. They said that my contract is valid and to cancel would be a 350.00 ETF. It would probably help if I got someone that spoke clear english. Lol

I got pretty upset the other day with full signal and 4G (HSPA+) it took my Note over 15 seconds to open a text email. No pics in it. Nothing major to download. Maybe a 2 kb email if that. I thought that was f'n redic.

Even with Sprint's 3G I never had data that slow. Lol

Ooh, that is pretty far away. Wish I had some other suggestions in that type of scenario, but unfortunately I can't really come up with any. If you were a month off from the 30 day mark, maybe, but that's 2/3 of a quarter that you've had it already.

I can say that you should be able to get a good amount of money for the Note, after you port back to Sprint. So it may not be a complete loss.

dan330 · May 3, 2012

JMac202 said:
I bought it at the end of February. Works fine for the most part in town but when I went out turkey hunting which started May 11th I didn't have signal except in one area I hunt. Went out of town again this past weekend to another spot I hunt and my phone had nothing. Not even roaming.

I had very good signal with Sprint in both of these areas.

I talked to them about it and they said that coverage isn't guaranteed everywhere. Which I understand. They said that my contract is valid and to cancel would be a 350.00 ETF. It would probably help if I got someone that spoke clear english. Lol

I got pretty upset the other day with full signal and 4G (HSPA+) it took my Note over 15 seconds to open a text email. No pics in it. Nothing major to download. Maybe a 2 kb email if that. I thought that was f'n redic.

Even with Sprint's 3G I never had data that slow. Lol

i have heard of online services that match demand with supply..

someone with a carrier contract...that wants out... and someone willing to take it over.

i dont know of the site.. but do a google.

EarlyMon · May 3, 2012

JMac202 said:
I bought it at the end of February. Works fine for the most part in town but when I went out turkey hunting which started May 11th I didn't have signal except in one area I hunt. Went out of town again this past weekend to another spot I hunt and my phone had nothing. Not even roaming.

I had very good signal with Sprint in both of these areas.

I talked to them about it and they said that coverage isn't guaranteed everywhere. Which I understand. They said that my contract is valid and to cancel would be a 350.00 ETF. It would probably help if I got someone that spoke clear english. Lol

I got pretty upset the other day with full signal and 4G (HSPA+) it took my Note over 15 seconds to open a text email. No pics in it. Nothing major to download. Maybe a 2 kb email if that. I thought that was f'n redic.

Even with Sprint's 3G I never had data that slow. Lol

Ridiculous.

Please note - FCC Complaint Procedures

And if you're willing to do that, call them back and tell them that you intend to file a formal complaint if they won't reconsider, because you aren't getting services paid for.

They have to answer to each one of those and they can't be swept under the rug. They may let you out to avoid more than $350 in office fees to be rid of you.

Carriers hate that.

Best luck!

I plan to get this phone. Who's with me?

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