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Root Are You Rooting?

Rooting or not?

  • Of course!

    Votes: 66 74.2%
  • Nope!

    Votes: 4 4.5%
  • I'll decide when I have it.

    Votes: 19 21.3%

  • Total voters
    89
As far as I'm concerned, my phone needs to be rooted so I can have certain extra features.

- Mybackup Pro / Titanium Backup for restoration of my app data from my current Evo (more than just loading the apps themselves)
- Widgetlocker bypass of the 5second rule
- Wifi tether
- Possible (likely) improved battery life through various tweaks
- Certain Tasker features
- Of course the possibility of various ROMs and customizations if I get bored with stock.

And probably some other things that I don't even realize require superuser permissions.
 
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As far as I'm concerned, my phone needs to be rooted so I can have certain extra features.

- Mybackup Pro / Titanium Backup for restoration of my app data from my current Evo (more than just loading the apps themselves)
- Widgetlocker bypass of the 5second rule
- Wifi tether
- Possible (likely) improved battery life through various tweaks
- Certain Tasker features
- Of course the possibility of various ROMs and customizations if I get bored with stock.

And probably some other things that I don't even realize require superuser permissions.

Same here, my phone needs to be rooted so I can run those apps that require root access. I may not flash a custom rom for several weeks but I have to be rooted ASAP!!!
 
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Any phone I get will be rooted. The way i see it there's no reason not to.

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Agreed. I am making the purchase, I want to be able to change it as I see fit. I don't want to be restricted to what THEY think I should have on the phone and what THEY think the phone should be allowed to do.
 
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+1 ;)

I don't think we'll be rooting it right off the bat though. A phone like this will receive overwhelming dev support, so unlocking with htcdev probably won't be required, if you're willing to wait.
The big, big cheeses like TrevE will get together and develop a root tool and find an exploit.

Any phone I have from here on out will be rooted one way or another. :D
 
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My concern is that if HTC offers their version of an 'unlocked' bootloader, it gives devs less incentive to search for a full unlock exploit.

That's what happened with the Evo 3D. At the time of release, HTC's stance was that they were going to continue to lock down bootloaders. The devs worked furiously to come up with a root exploit, which they did (Revolutionary). Shortly after Revolutionary came out, HTC caved due to public pressure and offered a bootloader unlock procedure. But to get it, you had to get an updated HBOOT that sealed the hole that Revolutionary was exploiting.

This HTC unlock procedure was still kinda half-ass. It was confusing, and it made flashing stuff a lot more complex. People who rooted the homebrew way definitely had it better.

But it was obvious that the devs weren't going to toil for an exploit on the new HBOOT since the HTC way did allow you to achieve all root functionality, albeit in a more painful way. A few people continued to hack at the new HBOOT, but not with the fervor of someone faced with an unrootable phone.

So yeah, that's my concern with this new phone. I'd prefer a real unlock, not HTC's. But will we get the dev interest needed for a quick crack?
 
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My concern is that if HTC offers their version of an 'unlocked' bootloader, it gives devs less incentive to search for a full unlock exploit.

That's what happened with the Evo 3D. At the time of release, HTC's stance was that they were going to continue to lock down bootloaders. The devs worked furiously to come up with a root exploit, which they did (Revolutionary). Shortly after Revolutionary came out, HTC caved due to public pressure and offered a bootloader unlock procedure. But to get it, you had to get an updated HBOOT that sealed the hole that Revolutionary was exploiting.

This HTC unlock procedure was still kinda half-ass. It was confusing, and it made flashing stuff a lot more complex. People who rooted the homebrew way definitely had it better.

But it was obvious that the devs weren't going to toil for an exploit on the new HBOOT since the HTC way did allow you to achieve all root functionality, albeit in a more painful way. A few people continued to hack at the new HBOOT, but not with the fervor of someone faced with an unrootable phone.

So yeah, that's my concern with this new phone. I'd prefer a real unlock, not HTC's. But will we get the dev interest needed for a quick crack?

I don't think this is true. The dev's are going to work initially to get root "their" way regardless of whether or not HTC unlock method is compatible. The reason being that the HTC method didn't work well anyway. And HTC could always put something in the process that would keep you from ever getting true root w/S off whenever they wanted to. As was with the 3D, the dev's specifically told people DO NOT use HTC's method unless you wanted to risk losing root and not being able to get it back. The dev's will want to have complete control over the root process and they will make sure that the root process they come up with won't result in any funny business, like the htc method.
 
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My concern is that if HTC offers their version of an 'unlocked' bootloader, it gives devs less incentive to search for a full unlock exploit.

That's what happened with the Evo 3D. At the time of release, HTC's stance was that they were going to continue to lock down bootloaders. The devs worked furiously to come up with a root exploit, which they did (Revolutionary). Shortly after Revolutionary came out, HTC caved due to public pressure and offered a bootloader unlock procedure. But to get it, you had to get an updated HBOOT that sealed the hole that Revolutionary was exploiting.

This HTC unlock procedure was still kinda half-ass. It was confusing, and it made flashing stuff a lot more complex. People who rooted the homebrew way definitely had it better.

But it was obvious that the devs weren't going to toil for an exploit on the new HBOOT since the HTC way did allow you to achieve all root functionality, albeit in a more painful way. A few people continued to hack at the new HBOOT, but not with the fervor of someone faced with an unrootable phone.

So yeah, that's my concern with this new phone. I'd prefer a real unlock, not HTC's. But will we get the dev interest needed for a quick crack?

I think the lte will be different.

HTC dev should be available from the start. Why spend time trying to find a root method. And not just look for a way to get S-off?

I mean no one will already be rooted like the 3vo. So there should be more interest or speed in getting S-off. I figure devs may just use HTC dev method for root and maybe just automate it and possibly include getting S-off all in one shot.
 
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HTC dev should be available from the start. Why spend time trying to find a root method. And not just look for a way to get S-off?

S-OFF is implied when I talk about a root method.

To others who seem more optimistic than me, that's fine. It's possible that if this phone is very popular, we'll see a big development community as well. It's just the Evo 3D track record is poor. People who bought the phone with HBOOT 1.5 from the factory had no choice but to use the HTC unlock cause the devs stopped looking for an exploit once HTC's method came out.

As I recall, the 3D was a bit hard to crack. It took a few months. Not like some phones where a root exploit is found within days, sometimes even before official release.

Would be great if el tevo is an easy crack. But I'm mentally prepared to accept the HTC method.
 
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I'll likely root it eventually, but probably not until I've had it stock for some time. Between ICS and Sense 4.0, it could well be that there may be enough upgrades to the stock experience that I won't feel compelled to root it. I haven't used Sense in a while, but I understand this new iteration is supposed to have a lot less bloat, so we'll have to see...
 
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I alway root but most times i dont go off stock. If I do its what i did on my Htc Inspire 4g and flashed an updated sense Rom. I use SetCPU, Rom Manager for back ups, and WiFi Tether.

You've missed out on a whole world of tasty goodness called baked custom ROMS!!! :D

The OG Evo had a great dev community, and the roms are still flowing....regularly!! :eek:

I will make a suggestion right off the bat though. From my experience with Rom Manager on the OG evo, I wouldn't use it for anything. Boot into recovery manually and perform all of the functions from there. Rom Manager was buggy on the OG evo and caused a lot of unnecessary problems.
 
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