Windows Phone 7 Looking Better Than Android?

pwabbit · Mar 18, 2010

Fonseca said:
developed by MS and is more efficient.

I am sorry, but this had me laughing so hard. I have lost faith in MS after all their blunders. I hope WM7 isn't just another Vista.

Fonseca · Mar 18, 2010

pwabbit said:
I am sorry, but this had me laughing so hard. I have lost faith in MS after all their blunders. I hope WM7 isn't just another Vista.

You obviously have never messed with Flash.

Adobe's software is more bloated than anything MS puts out.

pwabbit · Mar 18, 2010

I use copy/paste once a week or maybe a little more.

One of the things that I liked about WM6.x and Android is the ability to change the home screen. If I wanted a cubed home screen, there's an app for that. Same if I wanted other variations to the home screen. Is WM7 designed with the "one size fits all" mentality or will there be alternate home screens available? That would suck if we weren't able to change the home screen to a style we like better.

Also, it sounds like the WM7 will be the only operating system that will have full time contacts with the network (live social network) and still not have battery issues. I can't wait to see this new battery system.

Additionally, I can see MS doing the OTA updates and screwing up the phones. They then will blame the carrier. (Like the old "it must be one of your drivers" when XP had the Blue Screen of Death). Carriers release the OTA updates only after they are sure the update is compliant with their network.

SamuraiBigEd · Mar 18, 2010

pwabbit said:
I am sorry, but this had me laughing so hard. I have lost faith in MS after all their blunders. I hope WM7 isn't just another Vista.

MS puts out some very good software, and as far as Vista goes, it has been my experience that people who have problems with it are running early versions and quite often with insufficient ram. I have Vista Ultimate 64 with 8g ram, have been running over a year without even a single hiccup.

Windows Phone 7 will be base on Windows 7 functionality which means it should be good.

Unclebill · Mar 19, 2010

Sorry ... I've had too many problems with too many WINMO phones. Windows stinks ... period. Until they have had their new stuff out for a year I wouldn't even consider anything Windows related. I want my computers and phones to work when I need them ... I don't want to reboot constantly or have to play computer tech. With anything Windows related, I always take a wait and see attitude. Been burned too often over the past many years.

grainysand · Mar 19, 2010

Unclebill said:
I don't want to reboot constantly or have to play computer tech.

Unless you're doing something deeply, horribly wrong, WinXP and Win7 requires neither. Vista maybe, but only due to performance problems more than stability.

3devious · Mar 19, 2010

grainysand said:
Unless you're doing something deeply, horribly wrong, WinXP and Win7 requires neither. Vista maybe, but only due to performance problems more than stability.

I do deeply, horribly, wrong things in XP, Vista, and Windows 7. Instability comes from: using bad hardware (by bad, I mean components that take shortcuts for short term speed increases so as to look better on the benchmark of the week or old components, then there is just plain bad components...) bad software (usually of the driver variety) and bad users (usually of the "I'm too important to actually learn something about what I bought" variety.)

Bad hardware and bad software happens, just like the sun rising and setting. Bad users should never have an android phone.

Krugger · Mar 19, 2010

barry99705 said:
Well those phones weren't designed with WinMo 7 in mind.

and?

SamuraiBigEd · Mar 19, 2010

3devious said:
Bad hardware and bad software happens, just like the sun rising and setting. Bad users should never have an android phone.

Bad users shouldn't have anything!

grainysand · Mar 19, 2010

3devious said:
I do deeply, horribly, wrong things in XP, Vista, and Windows 7. Instability comes from: using bad hardware (by bad, I mean components that take shortcuts for short term speed increases so as to look better on the benchmark of the week or old components, then there is just plain bad components...) bad software (usually of the driver variety) and bad users (usually of the "I'm too important to actually learn something about what I bought" variety.)

Bad hardware and bad software happens, just like the sun rising and setting. Bad users should never have an android phone.

SamuraiBigEd said:
Bad users shouldn't have anything!

Exactly to both.

Bad users annoy make me glad I don't have to do full-time IT support.

Sigmund Droid · Mar 20, 2010

barry99705 said:
Well those phones weren't designed with WinMo 7 in mind.

No, but rest assured XDA will develop a WIN 7 ROM that can be rooted to the HD2 for those that really want it. Not a major deal breaker or reason not to buy an HD2.

Eaglesfan9106 · Mar 20, 2010

That OS looks like crap.I dont know what would make anyone switch from android to that....that thing the UI is hideous. It doesnt come close to The android UI customization and IMO Sense UI is leaps and bounds over it. The only nice thing i like about what MS is doing is setting the standard for all devices no1 likes to be left out in the cold with no updates

DGalt · Mar 21, 2010

I, for one, am happy to see someone diverge from the "pages of app icons" that has become the staple of current high-tech smart phones. The UI, to me, is the worst part of the iPhone (besides the lack of multitasking). Android does a better job thanks to the availability of widgets. In the end, though, it's still a 4x4 grid on which to place icons.

It's a preference thing, though. I recently read an article lauding the iPhone UI and the divergence from "folder" based UI's. Me, I like folders. I like the concept of hubs. We'll just see if Microsoft makes good on this. I, for one, am rather glad to see Microsoft keeping pace with the oh-so-trendy Apple (a company whose products I just cannot help but dislike). Windows 7 is amazing, the Courier (if it ever exists) is what I imagine a tablet should be, and as I've already said these WM7 phones are a nice change of pace.

That being said, I do love my Droid (can't really imagine what I did before I had it, when I was still using a "dumb" LG flip phone). And I love Google. It'll be interesting when it's time to upgrade in 18 months

FXRS · Mar 21, 2010

Don't get me wrong because I love my Droid but whatever happen to a phone being a phone? On top of that I'd hate to see the virus issues with a Winmo phone.

(no I didn't read through all the posts in the thread just in case it has already been brought up.)

Chugworth · Mar 21, 2010

I'm happy with Android. I haven't really seen anything that would make be want to switch.

More competition is good, but my concern is that Microsoft will try to cheat and get ahead not by offering a better product, but by locking in exclusive business deals.

SamuraiBigEd · Mar 21, 2010

FXRS said:
Don't get me wrong because I love my Droid but whatever happen to a phone being a phone? On top of that I'd hate to see the virus issues with a Winmo phone.

(no I didn't read through all the posts in the thread just in case it has already been brought up.)

Having had WinMo previously, there is no issue.

shadowdude777 · Mar 21, 2010

barry99705 said:
Well those phones weren't designed with WinMo 7 in mind.

I doubt the HD2 would have a problem, though.

FXRS · Mar 21, 2010

Wow I didn't think I'd get called a Mactard over my comment. Whats really funny is I don't even have a Mac and don't much care for them. I much prefer dual booting with MS for gaming and Linux for everything else.....

Guess my main point is whatever happen to a cell phone being just that, a phone. Sorry I blew up. Won't happen again.

djkeller3 · Mar 21, 2010

I don't mean to go off about this either, but it really frosts me to hear such biased garbage against the very company that completely changed the smartphone forever - Apple - and if it weren't for that, none of us would even have our Droids. Sorry Grainysand, but once again it took Apple to perfect what MicroSoft could not get right.

SamuraiBigEd · Mar 21, 2010

djkeller3 said:
I don't mean to go off about this either, but it really frosts me to hear such biased garbage against the very company that completely changed the smartphone forever - Apple - and if it weren't for that, none of us would even have our Droids. Sorry Grainysand, but once again it took Apple to perfect what MicroSoft could not get right.

And your assumption is that if Apple had not done it no other company possibly could have. That sounds more biased than anything else I have heard.

The iPhone was not so much revolutionary as evolutionary. Sprint had an apps store before the iPhone even existed, the finger touch use instead of stylus was borrowed from touchscreen PC's and yes, even WinMo. In fact, about the only thing that did not pre-date the iPhone was pinch to zoom. All Apple did was what they do good, put it in a pretty package and market the hell out of it.

As for your statement "...but once again it took Apple to perfect what MicroSoft could not get right." I have been a WinMo user, and have played around with iPhones, as far as what WinMo was made for, business use, it is by far the better choice. If you want to use your phone for entertainment, then the iPhone is a good choice for you.

Android would have surfaced even without the iPhone, Apple didn't invent smartphones after all. Android is as much a response to WinMo, Symbian, Palm and Blackberry as it is the iPhone.

BuzWeaver · Mar 21, 2010

Looks very interesting. I'll have to keep an eye on it.

3devious · Mar 21, 2010

I was messing around with my MS OneNote and I realized... I want WinMo or a similar app that is compatible with android phones or a way to get OneNote stuff to and from Android.

djkeller3 · Mar 21, 2010

Whatever... I'm tired of debating.

Let's move past it. I think the new Windows mobile is better than what they had before, but the layout is too *busy* and if it can't be customized like Android, then I give it a thumbs down.

Fabolous · Mar 21, 2010

Guys, this thread has gone way off topic.

I've removed all (most?) of the posts about Mac vs. PC.

Please stay on topic.

Bramsy · Mar 21, 2010

boo Fabu, boo. but good eye!

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