Potential Problem for ATT N1 customers

ap3604 · Mar 18, 2010

In a few months the iPad is coming out. This would scare me if I buy a ATT compatible N1.

You already have alot of complaints about ATT's 3g network just due to the iPhone use, I wonder whats going to happen if you add in a bunch of iPad 3g users as well... :eek:

Seems like the safest thing to do is to wait for a verizon/sprint or stick with t-mo no? Let me know what you guys think.

Air Force One · Mar 18, 2010

I think this was a really stupid thread to start. So everyone on ATT should leave because the iPad is coming and it's going to kill the network? You sound like an idiot.

ap3604 · Mar 18, 2010

Air Force One said:
I think this was a really stupid thread to start. So everyone on ATT should leave because the iPad is coming and it's going to kill the network? You sound like an idiot.

Hey dumbass, it was a question about which N1 to get/wait for.

I didnt ask for some childish response from some idiot like you that gets all defensive about protecting the image of ATT. If you dont have a good response then leave the thread alone moron...

Air Force One · Mar 18, 2010

ap3604 said:
Hey dumbass, it was a question about which N1 to get/wait for.

I didnt ask for some childish response from some idiot like you that gets all defensive about protecting the image of ATT. If you dont have a good response then leave the thread alone moron...

You asked what folks think so I told you. Quit being so touchy....if you cannot have a thicker skin, maybe the internet is not for you...

I'm sorry but the premise of your question was/is stupid

ap3604 · Mar 18, 2010

Air Force One said:
You asked what folks think so I told you. Quit being so touchy....

I asked which N1 to get... I didnt ask what you opinion was of me or the thread.

Since you don't seem to understand how the basic english system of a question and an answer for the question works, just leave the thread alone ****.

Air Force One · Mar 18, 2010

ap3604 said:
I asked which N1 to get... I didnt ask what you opinion was of me or the thread.

Since you don't seem to understand how the basic english system of a question and an answer for the question works, just leave the thread alone ****.

Man, you're as touchy as my little sister.

Don't wet your pants like she does tho!!

And once more, your premise that the IPad will affect Nexus users is a stupid one. I;m sorry that hurts your feelings but it's the way it is...

All I did was say you sounded like an idiot. Thank you for confirming!!

ap3604 · Mar 18, 2010

Sigh moving on... forgot idiots are a waste of my time

I guess if anyone can actually make an response to the question without name calling to start out with it would be appreciated...

Outatime · Mar 18, 2010

Agreed. The biggest problem N1 AT&T people will experience is.. well.. AT&T. If AT&T didn't suck I'd have an iPhone already.

Air Force One · Mar 18, 2010

ap3604 said:
Sigh moving on... forgot idiots are a waste of my time

I guess if anyone can actually make an response to the question without name calling to start out with it would be appreciated...

The only one to name call was you...if you want to move on then let it go...

ap3604 · Mar 18, 2010

Outatime said:
Agreed. The biggest problem N1 AT&T people will experience is.. well.. AT&T. If AT&T didn't suck I'd have an iPhone already.

Thanks Outatime

I appreciate the intelligent response.

Air Force One · Mar 18, 2010

ap3604 said:
Thanks Outatime I appreciate the intelligent response.

Just cannot let it go, huh?

tonygeno · Mar 18, 2010

Outatime said:
Agreed. The biggest problem N1 AT&T people will experience is.. well.. AT&T. If AT&T didn't suck I'd have an iPhone already.

When my iPhone was on ATT it was the worst. Dropped calls galore even with full bars. I finally fired them off the roof, unlocked the iPhone and went with T-Mobile. I miss having 3G but don't miss the dropped calls. The concern over whether the iPad is going to further damage an overtaxed network is a valid one, unless you don't need to make calls.

Air Force One · Mar 18, 2010

tonygeno said:
The concern over whether the iPad is going to further damage an overtaxed network is a valid one, unless you don't need to make calls.

IMO, you are wrong.

There is nothing unique about the iPhone to cause issues for ATT. Thre problem is the numbers of new and current users coming to ATT for the iPhone that causes for issues.

The ONLY way the iPad is going to have any effect on Nexus one users on ATT(lets not forget that was the premise of this thread) is if they sell AS MANY AN THEY DID of the iPHONES.

I can promise you there will never be even close to the number of iPads on ATT as there are iPhones. Not even remotely.

And you can quote me on that for future pwning. Hell the iPad cannot even make calls or multitask! How the heck is it going to clog ATT so bad Nexus users will feel it????

It won't!

ap3604 · Mar 18, 2010

tonygeno said:
When my iPhone was on ATT it was the worst. Dropped calls galore even with full bars. I finally fired them off the roof, unlocked the iPhone and went with T-Mobile. I miss having 3G but don't miss the dropped calls. The concern over whether the iPad is going to further damage an overtaxed network is a valid one, unless you don't need to make calls.

Thanks tonygeno

I appreciate the intelligent response.

Air Force One · Mar 18, 2010

ap3604 said:
Thanks tonygeno I appreciate the intelligent response.

You only think intelligent responses are those you want to hear.

I'm sorry but you are both not only wrong, but badly so. I usually don't flat out tell someone they are wrong, but this is a unique case of idiocy or apparent bias against a network.

I don't have issues with folks having legit issues with ATT or any other network, I have my own issues with ATT.

But this thread is stupid and so was your question...either stupid or biased.

ap3604 · Mar 18, 2010

Air Force One said:
But this thread is stupid and so was your question...either stupid or biased.

Just cannot let it go, huh?

Air Force One · Mar 18, 2010

ap3604 said:
Just cannot let it go, huh?

Not really

I've just been giving you a hard time man but you gotta admit there will never be enough iPads to hurt the network or Nexus users?

I guess I could be wrong,... and every iPhone user is going to buy one... and carry it around with their iPhone and use it darn near as much as their iPhone?

I just don't see it.

ap3604 · Mar 18, 2010

Air Force One said:
Not really

I've just been giving you a hard time man but you gotta admit there will never be enough iPads to hurt the network or Nexus users?

I guess I could be wrong,... and every iPhone user is going to buy one... and carry it around with their iPhone and use it darn near as much as their iPhone?

I just don't see it.

Thanks for the hard time brotha

Your probably right though. The $630 price tag for the 3g version might not sell as well as the $200 iPhone so probably not a big deal... just was a thought that crossed my mind.

tonygeno · Mar 18, 2010

Air Force One said:
IMO, you are wrong.

There is nothing unique about the iPhone to cause issues for ATT. Thre problem is the numbers of new and current users coming to ATT for the iPhone that causes for issues.

Exactly. Whether the iPad causes sufficient increase in traffic to further affect the ATT network is beyond my purview. That said, those of us with iPhones and very poor reception on the ATT Network can only wonder if another device with lots of web traffic will further clog the network.

Air Force One · Mar 19, 2010

ap3604 said:
Thanks for the hard time brotha

Your probably right though. The $630 price tag for the 3g version might not sell as well as the $200 iPhone so probably not a big deal... just was a thought that crossed my mind.

My apologies for being an ass about it. :eek:

I hope you get a Nexus regardless of network. I think you'd really enjoy it and it would be nice to have you around the forum.

Air Force One · Mar 19, 2010

tonygeno said:
Exactly. Whether the iPad causes sufficient increase in traffic to further affect the ATT network is beyond my purview. That said, those of us with iPhones and very poor reception on the ATT Network can only wonder if another device with lots of web traffic will further clog the network.

Truth be told we have more to worry about regarding all the new Android phones getting ready to hit ATT than any iPads, imo.

IMO, those have the potential to bring in enough new users to at least discuss the possibility it could cause problems. I still don't think it will. Hopefully ATT learned something from the iPhone but you never know I guess.

briany · Mar 19, 2010

refresh button much?

The iPad is not going to do much for AT&T. It definitely will add more usage to the network, and it's barely capable now. If I were hopeful, I'd trust AT&T to be anticipating this and working to upgrade their network. Fortunately I don't need to be hopeful because I don't have a data plan anyway, and I can only to connect to 2G, which despite its slow speed is actually quite stable in my area, unlike the 3G network. You could see about switching to Sprint/Verizon, and it may turn out to be worthwhile, but their networks could start to bottleneck like AT&T's. Ideally they'd learn from AT&T, but we'll see.

cwrig · Mar 19, 2010

The N1 is a more capable web browser than the ipad. I would be more concerned on what all the new android devices will do to ATT's congested network more than the crippled ipad.

clutchy · Mar 19, 2010

i still can't figure out why people are bagging on ATT's network. In southern/central california it's superb. I've used it in phoenix/mesa AZ as well and have never had any issues. It worked well in D.C. and boston when i was there last year as well as vermont and new hampshire; it was a vacation though.

It's blazing fast and i always have 3g.

The only problem i had was crappy voice reception but that was the iphone. The nexus sounds much better and people can hear me better as well.

ATT just has bad PR and for some reason people dig verizon's smug commercials.

tonygeno · Mar 19, 2010

clutchy said:
i still can't figure out why people are bagging on ATT's network. In southern/central california it's superb. I've used it in phoenix/mesa AZ as well and have never had any issues. It worked well in D.C. and boston when i was there last year as well as vermont and new hampshire; it was a vacation though.

It's blazing fast and i always have 3g.

The only problem i had was crappy voice reception but that was the iphone. The nexus sounds much better and people can hear me better as well.

ATT just has bad PR and for some reason people dig verizon's smug commercials.

Because the small sample size I know (people in Boston and DC) drop calls all the time. My daughter who uses her phone for business in the DC suburbs (northern VA) brought her iPhone to the Apple store, they put it on their machine and told her she was dropping 60% of her calls! And that was after replacing numerous sim cards and one phone. No refund was forthcoming, she paid $115 to get out of the contract, bought an Eris and her dropped calls are now essentially zero. In NYC Apple says 30% dropped calls are acceptable. I have friends that have other phones on ATT in the affected areas and have similar problems. My running joke with ATT customer support was "I thought you guys had more bars in more places? I guess just not my places..." as I suffered from the same "quality" service. Unlocking the phone and switching to T-Mobile has cut my dropped calls by 90%. And ATT has better coverage in my area! It's the network that's the problem.

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