Nexus is a FLOP!

ztmike · Mar 17, 2010

mi_canuck said:
they gots to please the hillbillies somehow...

You got to love the shit Sprint and now Verizon forcefully put on their phones.

Verizon actually just paid $720 MILLION for the NFL mobile license because Sprint didn't see it worthy anymore for that amount of cash.
The NFL Dumps Sprint, Prefers Verizon's Huge Bag Of Money - Verizon now the exclusive wireless carrier of the NFL... - dslreports.com

So you will be seeing that crap on Verizon phones in short order.

Sprint replaced the NFL license with Nascar (I believe) not 100% sure.

At least we know where Verizon is getting the cash from..Verizon sells off rural wired business in 14 states to focus on wireless and broadband

:rolleyes:

mi_canuck · Mar 17, 2010

who cares how good or bad the sales are... anyone with a Nexus has one because they sought it, like it, and are fed up with carrier soured devices... wtf would anyone want a phone that every pimple faced teenager and old grandma has (cough iphone cough)... i relish the Nexus' exclusivity and rareness... let it be a slow seller... it's a showcase device for Android... it's like the Corvette, GT and Viper than draws the masses to buy Cobalts, Focuses and Calibers respectively... let the carrier branded and crippled HTC and Motorola android devices have all the sales and (duh)mass-appeal... leave the forefront of technology and the geek appeal to the Nexus One... here here!!

Knitewulf · Mar 17, 2010

135,000 by basically word of mouth is pretty decent if you ask me.

justdoit · Mar 17, 2010

It actually surprises me how many people know about the N1 in the UK even if they haven't seen one b4. Who cares if it's a success or not, its a damn good phone that if you've noticed every few weeks or so since launch some new Google software appears, Browser Multi-touch, Earth, Gesture, Googles and Layer are all making it an even better user experience.

QrafTee · Mar 17, 2010

ztmike said:
It honestly amazes me at the amount of ******ation people have.

Google is trying to change the U.S market with the Nexus One. Crazy? No. With the powers of Google they can do it, and is doing it.

I'm sorry, but "chang[ing] the U.S. market" for the worst isn't a good thing. I'd like to be able to swap my phone on the fly when the screen spontaneously cracks or I'm dissatisfied with it. There should be no reason for me to go without a phone for half a week, there should be no reason for me to have to deal with the "run around" for weeks, and there should be no reason I have to get ~$500 locked up as credit while a "new" phone is sent to me.

eriku16 · Mar 18, 2010

QrafTee said:
I'm sorry, but "chang[ing] the U.S. market" for the worst isn't a good thing. I'd like to be able to swap my phone on the fly when the screen spontaneously cracks or I'm dissatisfied with it. There should be no reason for me to go without a phone for half a week, there should be no reason for me to have to deal with the "run around" for weeks, and there should be no reason I have to get ~$500 locked up as credit while a "new" phone is sent to me.

[Yet more chicken little antics...[sigh]]

You make a lot of noise for someone who does not actually **OWNS** an N1! Your so called excuse for this was that you are in the market for an N1, yet post after post are filled with negative comments. I never heard anyone wanting to buy a product so depressed and hateful about it.

Fatal Exception · Mar 18, 2010

Meh. I enjoy my phone. I dont really care how it sells.

grainysand · Mar 18, 2010

QrafTee said:
I'm sorry, but "chang[ing] the U.S. market" for the worst isn't a good thing. I'd like to be able to swap my phone on the fly when the screen spontaneously cracks or I'm dissatisfied with it. There should be no reason for me to go without a phone for half a week, there should be no reason for me to have to deal with the "run around" for weeks, and there should be no reason I have to get ~$500 locked up as credit while a "new" phone is sent to me.

So... how much of this have you experienced firsthand?

SnotF · Mar 18, 2010

so look at this:
over a million droids sold;
over a hundred thousand nexus ones sold;
nexus one now available on tmobile and at&t domestically, works abroad as well
coming to sprint and verizon(so that will cover ALL MAJOR CARRIERS)

and you want to call the nexus one a flop?

furthermore, it was released today by google that the android market has almost doubled in size in the last THREE MONTHS(16k-30k). this is obviously due to the release and overwhelming success of these two models.

the nexus one wasn't meant to be this gigantic whirlwind of success that the iphone had. we were essentially a beta group. what we are seeing now is that they have nailed down a lot of the major issues that we saw those initial few months, and htc/google are looking to expand the market. 100000 may be something that apple would call a flop, but i don't think that google is disapointed at all. if they were, you would see them pulling support and looking into a nexus 2, not expanding their market reach with the phone.

grainysand · Mar 18, 2010

Not to mention: it was an indirect push to get everyone else to update to the latest Android. Had the N1 not come out, do you imagine Samsung, HTC and Motorola would be pressured day in, day out for an OS update? Everyone'd still be stuck with 1.5 or 1.6 (or 2.01 in the Droid's case). A newer version of Android might float around somewhere, but people likely wouldn't be clamoring for it.

QrafTee · Mar 18, 2010

grainysand said:
So... how much of this have you experienced firsthand?

Plenty of times with other phones, if my phone is dead I should be able to go to the Verizon store and swap it out.

I don't see why you guys are so blinded by the fact that "Google does no evil." It doesn't take much in terms of brain power to put two-and-two together. It isn't even a Nexus One thing, it is a phone thing. If it fails there should be a way to swap it out on-the-fly, or did that go over your head... again?

grainysand · Mar 19, 2010

Nope, my point however seems to have whooshed right over your head. What are you even doing here, anyway?

CyberDroid · Mar 19, 2010

mi_canuck said:
let's see... after requesting a return for refund (I shipped back my 1st Nexus, in box, with everything original in it)... instead of refunding me, they sent me back Nexus in a generic box, no battery, no accessories, no documention, basically nothing... so had to return that... then they said 2 weeks to get a refund... it took OVER 7 weeks to get it... saying it was Google's issue... then Google saying it was HTC's issue... took a gazillion phone calls and ultimately threats of legal action combined with the last phone call demanding this get resolved before I got off the phone.... took my persistence, along with finally a Google customer tech that cared enough to dig deeper and contact HTC directly, to get it resolved...

imo, HTC is the worst company i've ever come across in regards to customer service... they plain effing suck.... maybe in other countries it's better (the UK guys seem to have very good HTC support)... but here in the US... HTC support is an effing JOKE.... I never say never, or at the very least I know I shouldn't, but trust me... my Nexus is the LAST HTC device I'll ever buy... I'm using now, only because there is currently nothing better out there for T-Mo.... as soon as there is... goodbye HTC device.... I sure hope Google partners with someone else for the Nexus Two... because I am DONE with HTC...

/rant

Sorry you had so much trouble ... it might be the exception, however. I recently got one, returned it within the first 10 days, and already got credit in Google Checkout within about a week after its return. Like most here, awaiting the Verizon version or Incredible to jump back in. :eek:

SnotF · Mar 19, 2010

If you guys want to talk about fanboys and blind loyalty, look at Apple users. Hello, look at how you guys are talking about VZW. I don't know where you get the idea that if uou have a prob with your VZW phone you can walk in to a VZW store and swap it for a new phone. That is NOT the policy. They mail you one out . Same as HTC.

SBERG · Mar 19, 2010

SnotF said:
If you guys want to talk about fanboys and blind loyalty, look at Apple users. Hello, look at how you guys are talking about VZW. I don't know where you get the idea that if uou have a prob with your VZW phone you can walk in to a VZW store and swap it for a new phone. That is NOT the policy. They mail you one out . Same as HTC.

You can actually go to a vzw store and swap out a phone if certain criteria exists. Ive done it already with my storm.

Neemo · Mar 19, 2010

Nexus one isn't a flop... necessarily. I mean, Google comes out with a flagship device that's going to blow all other handsets out of the water hardware-wise. If google wanted it to sell huge amounts upon release, they would've had advertised it like no tomorrow, emphasis here on the word IF.

My take on it is that the Nexus One was released on T-Mobile as a test to see if it has any major quirks or problems (which Google has addressed quite swiftly I might add). Now that it's going to be available on every network, isn't this a better time to go all in with the marketing dollars? We'll just have to wait and see but you can't really call Nexus One a flop if it doesn't sell millions if it isn't meant to sell millions.

In addition you can't say that Google just *forgot* or didn't see marketing *necessary* to promote the N1. They are one of the biggest companies in the world for a reason and I believe everything is going as planned. What that plan is? We'll soon find out.

eriku16 · Mar 19, 2010

grainysand said:
Nope, my point however seems to have whooshed right over your head. What are you even doing here, anyway?

Well, QrafTee said in a post he is here doing "research" on the N1 because he is/was in the market to get it once it's on Verizon. Quite a few posts I have seen was far too negative to believe that.

Funny, for someone who has an "interest" to go way out his way to make sure everyone not forget the N1's flaws, real or perceived.

From day one, this poser was a troll in my book.... :rolleyes:

QrafTee · Mar 19, 2010

eriku16 said:
Well, QrafTee said in a post he is here doing "research" on the N1 because he is/was in the market to get it once it's on Verizon. Quite a few posts I have seen was far too negative to believe that.

Funny, for someone who has an "interest" to go way out his way to make sure everyone not forget the N1's flaws, real or perceived.

From day one, this poser was a troll in my book....

Oh is that so? Try going back to early to mid-February posts and read them.

opticalshadow · Mar 20, 2010

personaly i hope it stays limited for a while longer, i just placed my order and the only one i have seen so far was an hour drive from me, im excited over having the rare phone.

mi_canuck · Mar 22, 2010

CyberDroid said:
Sorry you had so much trouble ... it might be the exception, however. I recently got one, returned it within the first 10 days, and already got credit in Google Checkout within about a week after its return. Like most here, awaiting the Verizon version or Incredible to jump back in.

i'm glad you had a good experience... i wouldn't want my worst enemy to go through the headaches i had with HTC... well maybe a few that shall remain nameless...

CTIA is upon us... sounds like the Supersonic might get announced... that will be interesting, as it's more than just a Nexus close (as the Desire, Incredible seem to be more or less)... Supersonic supposed to be WiMax, and 1.5Ghz Snapdragon... unless it has a physically massive battery, i can't imagine how much of a battery hog that thing will be!

mi_canuck · Mar 22, 2010

opticalshadow said:
personaly i hope it stays limited for a while longer, i just placed my order and the only one i have seen so far was an hour drive from me, im excited over having the rare phone.

agreed... let the masses flock to the HTC Sense devices (Desire, Incredible, Legend, etc.).... let us geeks stay in the minority with the Nexus

i had iphones since the launched back in '07, but as of the last 6-months to a year... I couldn't stand seeing one on every street corner, not just that, but owned by kids, tweeners, old geezers, non tech folk, etc.... truly way to mainstream for my taste...

rioja · Mar 23, 2010

I just ordered my N1. Looking fwd to my return to Android from BB.

After using the Hero with Sense, I decided it just not worth it. It takes these manufacturers too long to integrate their UI updates into the latest Android version. I'm happy sticking with vanilla Android if it means I'll get updates right away!

Teknologic · Mar 24, 2010

Changeing the market and being 'too smart for americans' as it all may be.. Has anyone ever considered that this is google's first real commercial product and they're just taking it slow? Especially to tackle all the problems they might've overlooked in the production process (like the poor customer service etc) in an early stage, rather than mass produce and try to compete with apple (a company who has been widely established selling all kinds of products around the world) right away.
Their sales could've been much, much higher but wisely, google is taking this one slow. Because this is a real product, in the real world

That said I'm also glad to be one of the few belgians to own a nexus, even tho 90% of the belgians don't even know what it is due to no advertising at all.
Heck I only heard about it a few months back.

Does anyone even remember when google first anounced the nexus one? I mean years ago when they first set out to make a smartphone. Seems like ages ago I heard about that

Bill · Mar 24, 2010

QrafTee said:
Well the product's "success" is defined in a manner where if the sales model fails, the product is a failure as well.

Actually it is defined by the one marketing and selling the product. If I create a product and it;s target audience is small I can still be successful.

Bill

QrafTee · Mar 24, 2010

Bill said:
Actually it is defined by the one marketing and selling the product. If I create a product and it;s target audience is small I can still be successful.

Bill

So as long as the "small target audience" is enough to offset the research, development, production, labor, and marketing costs... it would be satisfactory, but in no means successful because when board members come together and realize all this work has just been zeroed out, it's time to see what went wrong.

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