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TecTiles security?

StuDaddy

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Jul 3, 2012
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Hi. I guess I am a newbie here.

My VZW S3 should be here next week, and there's talk of 10,000,000 S3s being sold I am really interested in getting some TecTiles, but I am also concerned.

Do they create a security issue? Can someone else take control of my phone or get my information through their TecTiles?

Like if I am on a crowded bus, can someone have a TecTile in their bag that programs "send out accout information" or "send contact list" that will control my phone? Can they turn on my "hotspot" (without buying my dinner first!!)?

Thanks
 
First, I wouldn't get the TecTiles. They cost ~3x what generic NFC tags cost.

I'm sure there are some nefarious things that could be done, but keep in mind that the range for NFC is just a couple inches and it is only on when your screen is on (unless you hack it to work with the screen off). If you're still concerned, I'm sure you could set up a NFC on/off toggle widget.
 
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Hi. I guess I am a newbie here.

My VZW S3 should be here next week, and there's talk of 10,000,000 S3s being sold I am really interested in getting some TecTiles, but I am also concerned.

Do they create a security issue? Can someone else take control of my phone or get my information through their TecTiles?

Like if I am on a crowded bus, can someone have a TecTile in their bag that programs "send out accout information" or "send contact list" that will control my phone? Can they turn on my "hotspot" (without buying my dinner first!!)?

Thanks

Yes you do need an app of some kind to program, and read/write NFC tags or tec tiles.

No there isnt really a security issue as each tag has a unique ID and if someone comes along and tries to 'Tag' your phone, your phone will simply give you a pop up telling you a new tag has been detected, and even then, the tag has to come to within an inch or so of your phone.

Programming tags as far as im aware, isnt as comprehensive as to be able to coax out info from the phone like contacts and such, but can be used to store YOUR contact info to be given out to others, on a tag.

HTH
 
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I corresponded with Tagstand regarding what NFC tags to get. Here is what they said:
Me: Can you list what type of tags are compatible for the Samsung Galaxy s3(NA version)
Tagstand: All of them! I would reccomend the Mifare Classics though if your'e being choosy
Me: Thank you for you're reply. Why would you reccomend the mifare classic?
Tagstand: they hold the most data!

I went to Samsung's site to get more info on the specs of their TecTiles and heres what i found:
Specs - Cell Phone Accessories ETC-TT1G6N | Samsung Cell Phones
Some key specs I noticed:
MIFARE 1kB NFC memory chip, 100,000 cycle Write Endurance, 10 yr Data Retention, 13.56 MHz Operating Frequency

So with that said, I think the Mifare Classics should be ok. That's 752 bytes vs 144 bytes. Only thing is the Mifare Classics can't be made Read-Only.
 
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I corresponded with Tagstand regarding what NFC tags to get. Here is what they said:


I went to Samsung's site to get more info on the specs of their TecTiles and heres what i found:
Specs - Cell Phone Accessories ETC-TT1G6N | Samsung Cell Phones
Some key specs I noticed:
MIFARE 1kB NFC memory chip, 100,000 cycle Write Endurance, 10 yr Data Retention, 13.56 MHz Operating Frequency

So with that said, I think the Mifare Classics should be ok. That's 752 bytes vs 144 bytes. Only thing is the Mifare Classics can't be made Read-Only.

While this is true, it should not be forgotten that not all apps have to write data to a tag.

Some apps, just read the unique tag ID and let you save the commands you want to the phone. Thus making the tag data size redundant.

Keep in mind that 'typically' four commands will take up an actual data size of 40-43 bytes, and in some cases, some people only use 2-3 commands at once.
1k tags will hold a lot more commands, but do you really need them to for your own personal uses, is the question.

NTAG203 tags, will be more than suitable for the needs of Joe Bloggs, if good old Joe insists on actually writing info to the tags instead of using an app that just reads the tag ID and activates a profile.
 
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While this is true, it should not be forgotten that not all apps have to write data to a tag.

Some apps, just read the unique tag ID and let you save the commands you want to the phone. Thus making the tag data size redundant.

Keep in mind that 'typically' four commands will take up an actual data size of 40-43 bytes, and in some cases, some people only use 2-3 commands at once.
1k tags will hold a lot more commands, but do you really need them to for your own personal uses, is the question.

NTAG203 tags, will be more than suitable for the needs of Joe Bloggs, if good old Joe insists on actually writing info to the tags instead of using an app that just reads the tag ID and activates a profile.
cool thanks for the info.I ended up buying a mix between the mifare classic and type 2 tags. Real cheap and no biggie if it doesn't work out.
 
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While this is true, it should not be forgotten that not all apps have to write data to a tag.

Some apps, just read the unique tag ID and let you save the commands you want to the phone. Thus making the tag data size redundant.

Keep in mind that 'typically' four commands will take up an actual data size of 40-43 bytes, and in some cases, some people only use 2-3 commands at once.
1k tags will hold a lot more commands, but do you really need them to for your own personal uses, is the question.

NTAG203 tags, will be more than suitable for the needs of Joe Bloggs, if good old Joe insists on actually writing info to the tags instead of using an app that just reads the tag ID and activates a profile.

I prefer the tag id method as its more secure (stops people rewriting tags), I just don't like the apps that use that method ATM :( so I'm still using the NFC task launcher write method.
 
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