Radio Interface Resource Shortage FIX

doboy · Jul 24, 2012

metal571 said:
Honestly I think 2 gigs of 4G data a month is way more than enough, and paying $60 for a high-end, Jelly Bean-loaded smartphone's service is well worth the money. For the $30 plan, you get only 100 minutes, but 5 gigs of 4G. Everything else is unlimited after that on their 3G network (which is MILES ahead of Sprint's, say 3 mbps being a normal speed). Deal of the century.

I think it's unlimited 2G on Tmo after 5 GB 4G.

metal571 · Jul 24, 2012

doboy said:
I think it's unlimited 2G on Tmo after 5 GB 4G.

Yeah you're right. They switch to EDGE after you run out. For me 2 gigs is way more than enough. I only download significant stuff when in my apartment where I'd use WiFi anyway, so that won't concern me personally. People are saying they get throttled to around 1 mbps after you hit the limit. Again that wouldn't be a biggie for me personally.

Droidula · Jul 24, 2012

metal571 said:
Honestly I think 2 gigs of 4G data a month is way more than enough, and paying $60 for a high-end, Jelly Bean-loaded smartphone's service is well worth the money. For the $30 plan, you get only 100 minutes, but 5 gigs of 4G. Everything else is unlimited after that on their 3G network (which is MILES ahead of Sprint's, say 3 mbps being a normal speed). Deal of the century.

Which plan are you thinking of, and how many minutes does it include? The 100-minute one is too small of a limit for me. I will research this again later, but at the store right now. 2 gb isn't terrible, and like you said, for a good, updated device with reliable service, it could be worth it.

doboy said:
I think it's unlimited 2G on Tmo after 5 GB 4G.

Do you know what the speeds are for that? My Boost 3G speeds were so bad that Tmo 2G speeds might actually be an improvement. Lol.

metal571 · Jul 24, 2012

Droidula said:
Which plan are you thinking of, and how many minutes does it include? The 100-minute one is too small of a limit for me. I will research this again later, but at the store right now. 2 gb isn't terrible, and like you said, for a good, updated device with reliable service, it could be worth it.

Do you know what the speeds are for that? My Boost 3G speeds were so bad that Tmo 2G speeds might actually be an improvement. Lol.

After some research, T-Mobile's 2G EDGE will give you about 100-200 kbps down. Better not go over, lol. I'm thinking about the $60 a month plan. What's best about it is that with the 2 gigs of 4G HSPA+, you get UNLIMITED text AND calling. That's awesome.

Droidula · Jul 25, 2012

metal571 said:
After some research, T-Mobile's 2G EDGE will give you about 100-200 kbps down. Better not go over, lol. I'm thinking about the $60 a month plan. What's best about it is that with the 2 gigs of 4G HSPA+, you get UNLIMITED text AND calling. That's awesome.

I don't think I use that much data. I use the web a lot on my phone, but it's almost never to stream movies. I watch some youtube videos here and there, and occasionally stream Pandora for a bit. But I was looking at a data counter on the Evo V and it was using up a lot more data than I did on my last phone, quickly. So there might be more running in the background or something. Maybe that giant flip clock eats bandwidth when it's hungry.

For that price, though, I would rather just go back to Boost. I got unlimited everything anyway, and I guess I would deal with slower internet, to have working texts. They will come out with more 4G phones too, probably. Not that I get it indoors anyway, so the point of that is probably moot.

Or I've been thinking of just paying a bit more. I have been on no-contract for years and years already, and have always paid pretty low prices for my plans. But am I saving so much more than one friend, for example, that pays $80 a month with US Cellular and has had zero problems and better service? Yes, I save $20-$35 a month, but have to deal with all of this stuff.

Either way, I think I am pretty sick of VM.

metal571 · Jul 25, 2012

Droidula said:
I don't think I use that much data. I use the web a lot on my phone, but it's almost never to stream movies. I watch some youtube videos here and there, and occasionally stream Pandora for a bit. But I was looking at a data counter on the Evo V and it was using up a lot more data than I did on my last phone, quickly. So there might be more running in the background or something. Maybe that giant flip clock eats bandwidth when it's hungry.

For that price, though, I would rather just go back to Boost. I got unlimited everything anyway, and I guess I would deal with slower internet, to have working texts. They will come out with more 4G phones too, probably. Not that I get it indoors anyway, so the point of that is probably moot.

Or I've been thinking of just paying a bit more. I have been on no-contract for years and years already, and have always paid pretty low prices for my plans. But am I saving so much more than one friend, for example, that pays $80 a month with US Cellular and has had zero problems and better service? Yes, I save $20-$35 a month, but have to deal with all of this stuff.

Either way, I think I am pretty sick of VM.

If you don't need much talk time, the $30 a month plan can't be beat. My GF had a good point in that even if you run out of the 100 minutes and need more, you can still top up for 10c a minute. So you come out to around $50 a month if you need 300 minutes like VM, but with 5 GB of data and unlimited texting of course, IF you need that many minutes that month. This seems like the best deal overall.

Droidula · Jul 25, 2012

metal571 said:
If you don't need much talk time, the $30 a month plan can't be beat. My GF had a good point in that even if you run out of the 100 minutes and need more, you can still top up for 10c a minute. So you come out to around $50 a month if you need 300 minutes like VM, but with 5 GB of data and unlimited texting of course, IF you need that many minutes that month. This seems like the best deal overall.

Oh for sure, it can definitely be a great plan for some people.

I am not a huge talker, I'd actually prefer to text. There are some months when I don't use that many minutes, and some when I use way way more than 300 minutes. I have a few friends that never hang up if you start talking to them.

That aside though, I feel too much pressure with really low minute amounts. I find myself not wanting to use my own phone to check voicemail, call friends, call work, the doctor, school, customer service, the pizza store, etc. The minutes do kinda add up sometimes. And I hate that feeling of watching my few minutes like a hawk, so I don't think I'd go with a plan with such a low minute amount.

I check plans again every so often to see if anything has changed, but haven't found anything amazing yet. I've been watching Straight Talk and T-Mobile, hoping they would offer a plan that would make sense for me, so I can get a phone I like or a Nexus, and be set for a while.

In the meantime, I am thinking that if I decide to give up on the Evo V (I have still been having text error messages all night tonight, and signal fluctuations), it will be to cave in and pay more for a plan, or go back to Boost. I've tried Boost, VM, and Cricket out of the no-contract market. Cricket was by far the worst. Virgin mobile wasn't horrible, but I did have some reception/text delay issues sometimes, and they seem to have outages every so often. I remember one that rendered my phone basically useless from Friday through Monday. To be sure, I have had some issues with Boost as well, but for the most part, aside from my sloooooow 3G speeds, they have been pretty stable. And they have shrinkage. (And I just gave up my progress when switching for this Evo. Boo.)

euphan1555 · Jul 25, 2012

i been on the walmart(tmobile) plan since november and also been throttled every month.you will get between 50-80 kpbs which actually is fine for surfing the web.if you need to dl something its another story.expect between 7-10 actual download speeds.now back when i did play swtor i could mostly play that lag free on 2g even warzones for some reason.something i cant even do on 4g on the evo.

while the nexus is a great phone and i loved mine the 5 days i had it it isnt the only option.if you dont want to pay around 390 shipped check your local craigslist.you can find plenty of good phones you can use on t mobile for a lot less.

Rolo42 · Jul 25, 2012

hchen42 said:
Phones mentioned in this thread : Motorola Photon, Samsung Moment, Evo 3D, Evo Shift, Evo 4G.

Do all these share the same radio/radio manufacturer?

JWhipple · Jul 25, 2012

I posted a new thread over on HowardForums addressed at the iPhone users to see if they are having the same issue - initial response is looking good.

Question for Virgin Mobile USA iPhone users

Austrie · Jul 25, 2012

What about asking the htc one v user?

JWhipple · Jul 25, 2012

Austrie said:
What about asking the htc one v user?

Already did - check this thread:

http://androidforums.com/device-car...ne-v-htc-evo-v-4g-virgin-mobile-new-post.html

Austrie · Jul 25, 2012

Most One v users are at xda.

euphan1555 · Jul 25, 2012

i had the no service error once last night and again this morning.i decided that the next time i see a s2 on my local craigslist for around $200 to buy it and just use my evo as a modem.

metal571 · Jul 25, 2012

euphan1555 said:
i been on the walmart(tmobile) plan since november and also been throttled every month.you will get between 50-80 kpbs which actually is fine for surfing the web.if you need to dl something its another story.expect between 7-10 actual download speeds.now back when i did play swtor i could mostly play that lag free on 2g even warzones for some reason.something i cant even do on 4g on the evo.

while the nexus is a great phone and i loved mine the 5 days i had it it isnt the only option.if you dont want to pay around 390 shipped check your local craigslist.you can find plenty of good phones you can use on t mobile for a lot less.

Wow, no idea how I'd personally ever break 5 gigs a month.

superman28 · Jul 25, 2012

Austrie said:
What about asking the htc one v user?

As far as I can tell from google searches, it seems that they aren't having this problem. And if they are, it isn't nearly as widespread. So instead of jumping ship from my $35 plan, I could exchange the Evo V for the One V, stop the error messages and save myself $100. But it would be at the expense of a large screen and internal performance. I'd still love to know if there are people out there who aren't having the Radio Interface errors with their Evo V's, because if so, I will keep exchanging Evo V's until i get a good one.

metal571 · Jul 25, 2012

superman28 said:
As far as I can tell from google searches, it seems that they aren't having this problem. And if they are, it isn't nearly as widespread. So instead of jumping ship from my $35 plan, I could exchange the Evo V for the One V, stop the error messages and save myself $100. But it would be at the expense of a large screen and internal performance. I'd still love to know if there are people out there who aren't having the Radio Interface errors with their Evo V's, because if so, I will keep exchanging Evo V's until i get a good one.

Me too. I hope at least someone says theirs is working perfectly cause that's the next step for me too.

hchen42 · Jul 25, 2012

Curious, has anyone here been able to consistently reproduce this error?

I found I can produce this problem by sending texts in quick succession.

I haven't had any text issues since Friday the 20th. Of course, I haven't text much. So I tried to text to my google voice number in rapid succession - 5 texts in 30 seconds. Each message is a time stamp with a sequence number after (4 characters). First 5 msgs went through. I was going, yeah!!! Then sent another 5, hmmm, seems to be struggling, 3G jumps to 1X. Sent another 5 texts... then the infamous error message came back on about the 12th messages. Profile/PRL reset, and texts can be sent again.

Signals were great.

Any other "method"?

Droidula · Jul 25, 2012

I got to tier 3 tech support, they are way better than the tech you get through calling the main number. They all say they can fix that radio interface text error, but as we all can plainly see, it doesn't fix it. They are under the impression that this is a network-side issue, not phone specific, so it doesn't seem like exchanging phones will do anything. The agent I spoke with did say that they know about this and are working on a fix, which should probably(?) be released as a PRL update, but she gave no timeframe. In the meantime, my messaging has been better today, but my signal is still wildly jumping all over the place. She escalated my issue to engineering, I believe it was.

metal571 · Jul 25, 2012

Droidula said:
I got to tier 3 tech support, they are way better than the tech you get through calling the main number. They all say they can fix that radio interface text error, but as we all can plainly see, it doesn't fix it. They are under the impression that this is a network-side issue, not phone specific, so it doesn't seem like exchanging phones will do anything. The agent I spoke with did say that they know about this and are working on a fix, which should probably(?) be released as a PRL update, but she gave no timeframe. In the meantime, my messaging has been better today, but my signal is still wildly jumping all over the place. She escalated my issue to engineering, I believe it was.

Yeah, mine was supposed to be escalated too to engineering. No reply yet. I've also been contacting HTC directly, and not surprisingly they are still blaming VM. That's BS, it's the software that's causing the issue. Their software. The 3Ds on Sprint don't really have this issue, or at least it is resolvable by using the ##CLEAR# method.

Droidula · Jul 25, 2012

metal571 said:
Yeah, mine was supposed to be escalated too to engineering. No reply yet. I've also been contacting HTC directly, and not surprisingly they are still blaming VM. That's BS, it's the software that's causing the issue. Their software. The 3Ds on Sprint don't really have this issue, or at least it is resolvable by using the ##CLEAR# method.

How long have you been waiting for? They got back to me within a day for the first callback, so hopefully the engineering dept. will be quick as well.

They seemed pretty sure that this error was a network thing. I'm not sure anymore, but I should contact HTC just to be another nagging voice. Did you contact them through email, or is there a number?

metal571 · Jul 25, 2012

Droidula said:
How long have you been waiting for? They got back to me within a day for the first callback, so hopefully the engineering dept. will be quick as well.

They seemed pretty sure that this error was a network thing. I'm not sure anymore, but I should contact HTC just to be another nagging voice. Did you contact them through email, or is there a number?

For engineering it's been several business days and more than that including weekends. Stupid stuff.

I did it using their online form but if you go to the HTC support site you should be able to find a number also. Never tried it.

RichL27 · Jul 25, 2012

Today I spent 1 hour on the phone with VM technical support with no results. Their engineering team will be contacting me within 24 hours and hopefully I will have some sort of answer for this " Radio Interface Resource Shortage ". I will update as soon as I have any information.

metal571 · Jul 25, 2012

RichL27 said:
Today I spent 1 hour on the phone with VM technical support with no results. Their engineering team will be contacting me within 24 hours and hopefully I will have some sort of answer for this " Radio Interface Resource Shortage ". I will update as soon as I have any information.

Awesome, just make sure to bitch them out if they don't respond in 24 hours because if they don't then you'll be in my boat with no idea when they'll call so persevere to the greatest extent. I'm tired of this problem and if it's not fixed by the end of my billing cycle on 8/20 I'm going to forcefully switch to t-mo

Rolo42 · Jul 25, 2012

metal571 said:
I'm going to forcefully switch to t-mo

You gonna bring a MAC-10 to the store wit' you?
hehe

Wife and I are getting a slew of 64's today. ##CLEAR# didn't fix it. In fact, the error popped up during the [re]activation!

I'm on hold with tech support. I'm thinking this will facilitate my decision as well. This hold music is almost enough to make me return these now...what IS this garbage!?

Edit: Oy. They need me to call from another phone to do that voodoo that they do and my wife isn't home. :/

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