Verizon home button - first world problems?

wyndslash said:

So I'm guessing Verizon will be getting a lot of emails then? :-D

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They should.... whatever reached those that play a role in these poor decisions. No harassing the customer service reps.

I should add that while we should be happy they are going to carry it at all... they do need to hear from their customers as much as possible. They obviously grudgingly carry the GS3 and Note 2 because they know they will lose customers if they don't. Samsung is too big to ignore. Still... they do it with arrogance. They need to be put in their place and learn they cannot continue as they have. They must evolve or risk losing customers in droves as the other carriers catch up and service evolves to where network quality is less of an issue. It was a big change for them to adopt the DROID line... but change doesn't stop there. They simply will be unable to sustain an iron grip peddling their brand... peddle your network, not the device.

wyndslash said:

So I'm guessing Verizon will be getting a lot of emails then? :-D

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Definitely did that here!

What really bursts my bubble is that we are almost 5 years from when the 700mhz spectrum was auctioned off and almost 3 years into Verizon's use of the C-Block spectrum for their LTE network and we are still 100% unable to find a consumer device that is compatible with that network available for sale through Verizon's open device initiative that was technically launched 4.5 years ago as you can see in the article below.

This open device initiative was all a big farce as it's quite obvious any large OEM is largely banned from selling their own nonVZW branded versions of VZW branded stuff through this initiative. They basically lied when this was announced. The only seemingly consumer smartphone type device that was ever touted to eventually happen through this initiative has never seen the light of day even though it still shows up on the portal and it's manufacturer still has a website and such.

The fact of the matter is that Samsung, HTC, Moto, LG, and all the rest should be able to easily sell devices that you have ZERO Verizon software, update approval or any such nonsense happening if they were sold after esn and imei's and such were passed through this portal setup rather than through verizon retail effort. They are not for the simple fact Verizon does not want them to be. If you were samsung, what would have against a few VZW configured devices getting sold unlocked from Amazon or where ever with no verizon branding?? The only thing it would change is that software updates could be pushed like it was an international unlocked phone at some point before VZW had approved what you were working on for the VZW molested ones. These would have not verizon branding or software and really the only difference other than that would be you couldn't get them at subsidized prices.

Verizon's Open-Door Policy: What It Actually Means

Device Showcase: Open Network Devices | Verizon Wireless

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PetiePal said:

This. Is not like all the carriers did it...why did Verizon have to do it? We all know whose network were using believe me

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Yes it's ugly. But seriously guys - is anybody surprised they did this? This I is SO stereotypical Verizon - (1) releasing it later than everybody else and (2) stamping their stupid logo all over the phone.

C'mon - I know half of you expected this...

I for one don't really care. It's a phone - I want it to work well and function. Yes is prefer not to have the logo but whoopdie doo - it's still a great phone.

Wangta said:

I for one don't really care. It's a phone - I want it to work well and function. Yes is prefer not to have the logo but whoopdie doo - it's still a great phone.

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Exactly. After learning you can't surf the web & talk on the Note 2 at the same time w/ the Sprint version, but you can on the Verizon Note 2...complaining about logo on the home button should be the least of our concerns that this point. I'd rather have all the features we can possibly have on this device w/ the logo, then not have the features & no logo.

Why can't you on the sprint version? That makes no sense to me.

Their other phones have it

Rxpert83 said:

Why can't you on the sprint version? That makes no sense to me.

Their other phones have it

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Twospirits explains it here : http://androidforums.com/5130218-post75.html regarding the Sprint Note 2.

He did later confirm ( sorry can't find that post ) that you can surf & talk on the Verizon Note 2.

Tapatalk isn't playing nice with that link. Let me get to my PC

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HMM very strange. This is the first LTE phone I'm aware of missing it

Yeah, the Sprint version does not have SVDO (see external link) and looking over the FCC docs for the Verizon unit it does.

TS

twospirits said:

Yeah, the Sprint version does not have SVDO (see external link) and looking over the FCC docs for the Verizon unit it does.

TS

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TS : don't want to get this thread off topic, but with the Sprint version you can't do wireless charging, correct ? Have we learned if you can w/ the Verizon version of this device ?

treb1797 said:

TS : don't want to get this thread off topic, but with the Sprint version you can't do wireless charging, correct ? Have we learned if you can w/ the Verizon version of this device ?

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In the Sprint section I posted the photo of the International version that has numerous pins. I'll post it below as well. There are two pins close to where the SIM card is. Those are for NFC, then you see two more at the right of the battery. I am assuming these pins are for wireless charging. Look at the Verizon version and if if has the extra pins, then yes, if they don't then no. (Providing someone has one to open up)

This is the International version, see the extra pins.

It also has a round thingy. Anyone know what that might be?

TS

twospirits said:

In the Sprint section I posted the photo of the International version that has numerous pins. I'll post it below as well. There are two pins close to where the SIM card is. Those are for NFC, then you see two more at the right of the battery. I am assuming these pins are for wireless charging. Look at the Verizon version and if if has the extra pins, then yes, if they don't then no. (Providing someone has one to open up)

This is the International version, see the extra pins.

It also has a round thingy. Anyone know what that might be?

TS

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The round thingy looks like a small coaxial connector. These are usually used to connect an external antenna or a scope/meter, mainly for testing & troubleshooting.

I could be wrong, so if anyone else knows for sure, please chime in.

nlitenme said:

The round thingy looks like a small coaxial connector. These are usually used to connect an external antenna or a scope/meter, mainly for testing & troubleshooting.

I could be wrong, so if anyone else knows for sure, please chime in.

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It's for testing the radio. While it is in line with the internal antenna, it's best to not attach an external antenna to it. It is possible to fry the radio pretty easily doing this.

treb1797 said:

Twospirits explains it here : http://androidforums.com/5130218-post75.html regarding the Sprint Note 2.

He did later confirm ( sorry can't find that post ) that you can surf & talk on the Verizon Note 2.

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Oh REALLY? You can surf and Talk on the VZW? Is that bc the voice calls are still on 3g right?

PetiePal said:

This. Is not like all the carriers did it...why did Verizon have to do it? We all know whose network were using believe me

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And as trivial as it is, I guarantee they had to pay extra and change the manufacturing process to accommodate it!
Really! even if it was .001 cents to do it times 10,000 devices, they paid to have it done! Stupid VZW.
Especially if the phone is on all other providers, do you think someone will go, VZW on the button, guess it's a VZW exclusive. I'll go to VZW from provider whoever so I can have this phone? Maybe.

well after a long hiatus my GN2 is back to wearing her silver (hide the Verizon logo) home button LOL


20130501_105431 by Ceva321, on Flickr

ceva321 said:

well after a long hiatus my GN2 is back to wearing her silver (hide the Verizon logo) home button LOL
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20130501_105431 by Ceva321, on Flickr

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This is from Spigen 3-pack? Btw, for anybody interested MIME offers a different color (silver, black, gold, pink) home replacement aluminum buttons for $2.50 each: Aluminum Home Button for Note 2

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YES, this is from the Spiegen aluminum Home Button 3 pack in silver, black and pink.

i bought it back in dec 2012, i dont remember exactly how much i paid, i think it was $10.


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