Help Jellybean

ship69 · May 11, 2013

Hi

I have applied my Jellybean (4.1.2) update "over the air" - i.e. without using KIES (which persistently failed, btw) and now my Samsung Galaxy Note is hideously SLOW.

e.g. After a reboot it still takes
3 seconds to open 'Phone'
4 seconds to open Contacts
3 seconds to open Messaging
3 seconds to open Google

Now, to be fair re-opening these things is fast - about 1 to 1.5 seconds, but still not instant. And this becomes irritating.

- Any suggestions? (Short of uninstall Jellybeans completely!)

J

P.S. To be honest I am now thinking of blowing

iTzKPanda · May 11, 2013

Usually after a big upgrade such as ICS to Jellybean, a factory reset would fix your issues.
It's been proven to work with the Galaxy S2, so it might work for you.

ship69 · May 11, 2013

iTzKPanda said:
Usually after a big upgrade such as ICS to Jellybean, a factory reset would fix your issues.
It's been proven to work with the Galaxy S2, so it might work for you.

- If I do a "factory reset" will I still keep the Jellybean upgrade?

- Either way, presumably I will lose all my downloaded apps, yes?

- Will I also lose all my data too - such as photos and application settings for apps that came with the phone?

J

iTzKPanda · May 11, 2013

ship69 said:
- If I do a "factory reset" will I still keep the Jellybean upgrade?

- Either way, presumably I will lose all my downloaded apps, yes?

- Will I also lose all my data too - such as photos and application settings for apps that came with the phone?

J

-Yes
-yes, but you can backup your app data.
-you can back those up as well.

ship69 · May 11, 2013

iTzKPanda said:
-Yes
-yes, but you can backup your app data.
-you can back those up as well.

Sorry to be dim, but how do I back up my app data and apps? i.e. How do I back up and reinstall my entire phone? (Please tell me it's not using the dreaded KIES!)

And if I do that are we still thinking that this might help speed it up?

J

ship69 · May 12, 2013

P.S. Getting KIES (on Windows 7 x64) to connect to my Galaxy Note 1 is EXTREMELY flaky.
It seems that the only way to get KIES to connect is to make sure that the phone is locked, at which point KIES tells me that my phone is locked ant then asks me enter the password... and ONLY THEN will KIES connect. Otherwise it simply says (after about 5 minutes) that it cant connect!

On my previous version of the o/s (i.e. ICS), after a few initial eventual connections, KIES completely and utterly failed to connect to my phone. I tried completely uninstalling KIES and ran the utility that re-installed the Samsung driver but nothing worked.

For such a large company it really is AWFUL how back KIES is.

To be honest it reminds of about 10 years ago when I had the top mobile phone a Sony Ericsson smartphone thing that could surf the net, do emails and had a little flip down keypad. It was brilliant! (for the time) but the software for connecting and sync-ing with a PC was utterly, utterly awful. So bad and so flaky that I swore I would never EVER buy another Sony Ericsson phone. I'm starting to feel the same way about Samsung thanks to KIES.

Sony Ericsson? And where are they now....

andyheer · May 12, 2013

I've found the same thing, you press the Contacts icon and sit staring at a blank screen for several seconds and the same with some of the other apps.

I wonder if the phone is simply running out of memory. With Jellybean came about 50Mb of large and unwanted apps such as Google Play Books, Google Play Magazines, Google Play Music, Google Play Movies.

I'm thinking of rooting my phone simply to delete them.

ship69 · May 12, 2013

andyheer said:
I'm thinking of rooting my phone simply to delete them.

OK so "rooting", is like "jailbreaking" on iOS device, yes?

The latest development is not only is my phone incredibly slow but it is now absolutely murdering power. e.g. Following a reboot and *just* having GoogleMaps open today I lost about 40% of my phones power in 2 hours.

I managed to get KIES to connect and I managed to back "everything" up and I now I think I need to do a factory reset.

- Anyone know how to do a factory reset?

- And more to the point anyone know if that is likely to sort out my problems? (particularly if I restore all using KIES...)

J

PiscesCloud · May 12, 2013

ship69 said:
OK so "rooting", is like "jailbreaking" on iOS device, yes?

The latest development is not only is my phone incredibly slow but it is now absolutely murdering power. e.g. Following a reboot and *just* having GoogleMaps open today I lost about 40% of my phones power in 2 hours.

I managed to get KIES to connect and I managed to back "everything" up and I now I think I need to do a factory reset.

- Anyone know how to do a factory reset?

- And more to the point anyone know if that is likely to sort out my problems? (particularly if I restore all using KIES...)

J

Probably the best way to do a hard reset is as described by NeoGrandizer's posts #6 and #16 at the following link.

http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-note-2/687561-4-1-2-updated-battery-drain.html

Personally, being ultra cautious, I'd remove both SIM and SD cards before doing so.

No guarantees but I'm hopeful that a HR will improve matters for you; it seems to do so quite often.

Galaxynote_guy · May 13, 2013

I'm not saying it's wrong or anything, just playing devils advocate, but I don't see how a hard reset would sort anything. If the phone was ok before the update, all that has changed is the version of Android. No idea but I'm guessing that the update entails the removal of the old system and the installation of the new. I doubt that the phone keeps both versions on it. Was there much of a difference in size between ICS and JB?
I think folk dive for the hard reset buttons tooo quickly these days

Just saying

Let us know how you get on sir

bluenova · May 13, 2013

Regarding removing Samsung bloatware, you don't need to root and delete. From the Application Manager in Settings you can simply disable them. If you've installed an update to a particular app you will need to uninstall the update first then go back in and you'll get the option to disable.

+1 on a factory reset, ICS to JB is a big change. You will not lose anything stored on you internal or external memory, you will lose all your apps and app data that is not stored in internal/external memory.

Something you can check before before going down the factory reset path is what is using your memory, check in Settings > Battery and Settings > Application Manager > Running.

Some people have found that the Media Scanner has been constantly running after the JB upgrade. To try to rectify this you can try clearing data for Media Storage and rebooting also Google Magazine/Currents has been found to be a culprit for keeping Media Scanner running, so uninstalling/disabling those would probably help.

PiscesCloud · May 13, 2013

Galaxynote_guy said:
I'm not saying it's wrong or anything, just playing devils advocate, but I don't see how a hard reset would sort anything. If the phone was ok before the update, all that has changed is the version of Android. No idea but I'm guessing that the update entails the removal of the old system and the installation of the new. I doubt that the phone keeps both versions on it. Was there much of a difference in size between ICS and JB?
I think folk dive for the hard reset buttons tooo quickly these days Just saying
Let us know how you get on sir

Fair comment but a FR seems to work!

NeoGrandizer explains it well at post #16 of the link I quoted above. In essence it removes any residual data and files that the previous OS required but may cause the new OS to malfunction if accessed. One might expect a well designed installer to initialise its own constants etc in its data storage area but it would appear one can not rely on that being done thoroughly.

grneyedgemini · May 14, 2013

What does over the air mean? I tried the upgrade from kies but it failed repeatedly. Which I'm grateful now for because after reading some posts on the site maybe its not a good choice for me?

ifb-online · May 15, 2013

My understanding is that iOS jail-breaking is hacking the OS to enable apps to be installed from outside the app store.

Google already provide this as an option for Android Users without the need to hack anything.

ship69 · May 17, 2013

I am a newbie. But my understanding is that "over the air" is when your phone (via your network provider?) triggers the O/S to ask you if you want to upgrade, without you using the dreaded KIES.

I did this "over the air thing" myself. (KIES was totally flaky and failed to effing connect not matter what). Interestingly KIES is now working again post JB update!

I then managed to do a Factory Reset (FR). This was a mild disaster because I lost about half my settings (strangely not all!) and my Google Play account seemed to have forgotten which Apps I had downloaded. BL**DY irritating, particularly as some of them I had actually paid for. Which it still knew... so I didnt actually have to pay again. But I cant remember what many of them actually where!

BL**DY google. They spy on us all, reading all our gmail emails, they know every site you visit (if it is using Google Analytics which most of them now are)... but when you come to give them actual money and want to use what you paid for, it's: Ooops we lost your data. Would you like to pay for something else. IMHO, Google are evil idiots.

Meanwhile, although I did a full FR my Galaxy Note 1 is still somewhat slow. Things take a second or two to open. And over time this becomes extremely irritating. I am now seriously considering buying an HTC One instead, which does seem to keep getting great reviews. The trouble is that I do rather like that large screen on my Note.

But can anyone else tell me how to speed up my Galaxy Note One? (which is running Jellybeans 4.1.2).

e.g. Will uninstalling bloatware actually help?

J

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