Help JB Update Makes GTN7000 very slow

What do you mean by slow?

I have not noticed any slowdown, but if you give an example of an operation and timings perhaps we can make direct comparisons.

Hi my note is also extremely slow after installing JB for example:
when doing a google search the keyboard used to pop up instantly and all keys would appear as typed, now tthe keyboard takes 90secs to appear and there is a 5-10sec delay on each character appearing after its typed. its the same with maps too, to find a destination before took seconds, now minutes. Is anyone else struggling or is it just me?

No delays or slowness like you are describing here. Something unusual must be causing that problem.

my phone has had a major slow down as well from updating,

Online forums indicate a lot of people are in the same boat (ie slow). I tried everything to speed mine up a bit including factory resets etc but the only thing that has made a slight bit of difference is turning off Google Now.

Im now considering ditching my Note for something else

Clearly something is not normal - my understanding is that Notes are widely covered by a 2 year warranty; with luck yours will be and you can get it sorted by Samsung.

alfie-gee said:

Online forums indicate a lot of people are in the same boat (ie slow)... ...Im now considering ditching my Note for something else

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This is the situation I found myself in too; it has been elsewhere suggested there are settings that need to be wiped/cleared, but they're not, so far as I'm aware, accessible without 'rooting' and some advanced meddling with the software.

Not something I think should be required, and not something I felt the desire to get involved with.

It's interesting to hear more and more people having the same poor experience since upgrading to JB.

Some people on these forums have previously seemed incredulous when they've heard such reports, maybe as the weight of reports mount they, and maybe Samsung might take them seriously!

Mine has slowed right down and freezes when I try to swipe pages. Using the phone and message log is slow quite often leaving a blank screen for a few seconds before anything happens. I've backed up everything via KIES and done a hard reset. What I didn't realise was KIES doesn't back up apps, so I've lost the b****y lot and my memory is not what it used to be!

Crewmeal said:

Mine has slowed right down and freezes when I try to swipe pages. Using the phone and message log is slow quite often leaving a blank screen for a few seconds before anything happens. I've backed up everything via KIES and done a hard reset. What I didn't realise was KIES doesn't back up apps, so I've lost the b****y lot and my memory is not what it used to be!

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The apps you got from Google Play or Market will be there. Just log in and re-install.

Did the hard reset cure your problems?

Since I am not unhappy with the performance of my Note with stock JB I thought I'd shoot a video to show how mine performs. Maybe some people will regard the performance as "laggy" while others may feel it is no worse than ICS. Certainly I haven't noticed degraded performance with mine compared to ICS.

Original Samsung Galaxy Note running stock Jelly Bean - YouTube

As for battery life, a couple of hours after shooting that video, and with 49 minutes screen time, here's how things look with the original 18 month old battery....

I think your battery stamina is better than mine but the responsiveness of the screen is similar to mine - you beat me to it as I was thinking of doing a video too

ifb-online said:

I think your battery stamina is better than mine but the responsiveness of the screen is similar to mine - you beat me to it as I was thinking of doing a video too

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If a picture paints a thousand words I guess a video paints a million.

Unfortunately, while I don't doubt that there are people facing problems, they provide so little diagnostic data that it is hard to help them. There are so many ways in which the phone's performance could be compromised, and so many individual ways to tweak and tailor the phone to improve things, but a brief few words to say "It's laggy after the upgrade." are hardly the basis for understanding what is wrong and what can be done to improve matters.

I wouldn't say that my own experience was without problems, but my grumbles were down to battery life rather than operational speed. Now I seem to have overcome that hurdle, but my approach was to go back to absolute basics - full factory reset and install no further apps apart from stock. I also disabled the bloatware I have no interest in and will never use - stuff that is well known to waste data and suck power such as Flipboard, Google+ and a myriad other bloaty apps. I also binned all the stock home screens and set a single, widget free home screen with black, static wallpaper. I've tried Google Now, but I'm unimpressed so far and have disabled that. Basically the phone is only running what I want it to and not the things Samsung (or Google) thinks I might like.

After a couple of days without drama I started adding back a few of my own apps, like CoPilot, but really cutting back on the apps I seldom/never use. So far so good.

It's anybody's guess what might be wrong with the more troublesome machines out there, because none of us but the owner has a clue what they've actually done with the phone. And let's face it, some of these devices could be well and truly clogged up with a mire of dreadful apps which hog resources and cause problems which have nothing to do with Samsung or the JB upgrade. Conceivably the JB upgrade may have made things worse, or perhaps it simply did not turn out to be the silver bullet that people were expecting. As upgrades go there doesn't seem to be a lot to tempt me. The most interesting thing for me is the customisable notification bar toggle widget, which I'm sure ICS did not have. Apart from that I am ambivalent about any other "improvements" brought by JB.

We have very different set-ups; my Note has never had a factory reset and it is chock full of apps, I have filled every home screen and several have large widgets and I run several IMAP email accounts as well as a gmail account. And I have animated wallpaper

I don't get anywhere near the battery life you do but my Note is definitely working harder so that's no surprise. Importantly, I don't think the battery life has suffered from the JB update. If I do a power reset then for a few minutes things are slow and laggy but that's probably when all the apps and system routines are at their busiest. After that things are mostly smooth and responsive.

Certainly, it can be distressing when things seem to not work as well as they used to, but there is almost always an explanation and a solution. Even if not most Notes are still under Samsung's 2 year warranty and can probably be sent for service. I think most of those who post here seemingly at their wits' end have probably fallen out of love with their Notes and are hankering after an excuse to get something newer and more exciting.

It's good to hear that your Note is holding up well to the demands on it. You may also well be right about the psychology of those who are itching for something newer and more powerful. The thing is, if they switch to a new phone they will have all the pain of reconfiguring it that they would face following a factory reset of their own Note, so the question then becomes - What have they got to lose by performing a factory reset and starting over?

For me personally the Note still does just as much today as it did 18 months ago and still delivers performance which meets my needs. As it is I paid

Did the hard reset cure your problems?

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No difference at all. There is a 10sec lag when you press phone and contacts or logs. Thinking about going back to an iphone.

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No difference at all. There is a 10sec lag when you press phone and contacts or logs. Thinking about going back to an iphone.

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Yup, same here, and not just when switching to contacts, it also happens when I switch to camera

My friend has similar problems on his Note1, and his update was via Kies, while my update was done with Odin...
Also JellyBean is killing my battery:
1) battery life is shorter overall, it's like an iphone now, have to be plugged in every chance I get, can no longer last the day without charging it midday
2) sometimes it goes "nuts" and heats up, I suspect it's running an app or something hard and just using up crazy amounts of cpu, when this happens I can lose as much at 50% battery charge in ~30mins....

ifb-online said:

...I think most of those who post here seemingly at their wits' end have probably fallen out of love with their Notes and are hankering after an excuse to get something newer and more exciting.

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Noticeable slower performance than the day before an OS upgrade is hardly 'hankering after an excuse'!

tdodd said:

...You may also well be right about the psychology of those who are itching for something newer and more powerful...

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I can't say that that is what I've experienced, or what I'm reading in these and other forums.

I'm pleased for those who've experienced positive performance gains and or no negative experiences on upgrading, and I'd expect them to be pleased.

Likewise I sympathize with those who've had negative experiences on upgrading, and I'd expect them to be unhappy with Samsung and or Google (with the caveat that they've followed reasonable troubleshooting before getting too annoyed)

But those people just dismissing these as 'falling out of love' or 'hankerings' etc. should consider whether they're only 'in love' and content with their Note as 'fair weather' users; psychologically I wonder why they feel 'love' or the need to jump to the defense of a technology product?!

The video posted was really interesting as it allowed me to confirm that I wasn't being greedy in hoping that the update would make my Note smoother and less laggy as some people have been lucky enough to experience. I tried the same apps as tdodd and unfortunately, rather than the instant opening of apps and smooth scrolling, it took a count of 13 to open both Phone and GMail and at least 3-4 secs to open many other apps. If I then shut and re-open Phone it will open instantly, incidentally.

I can't say that this down to Jellybean as I had the problem beforehand. I can't really tell if it's any worse but it's disappointing as I was hoping that JB would make the phone easier to use. Battery life is certainly no better.

I'm definitely not hankering after a new phone. I won't be changing my Note (barring accidents) until my contract runs out in July 2014. I still really enjoy using it but it would be great if I'd seen the sorts of improvements others clearly have.

After charging to 100% by 10pm last night, it fell to 51% by this morning and I hadn't even used it it. Maybe a point to remember is that the hardware can't cope with JB and it's onmly designed for faster processors. Is this a case of stuff the Note 1 users, move on and buy the next one? Come on Samsung do something to help those of us who have forked out around

mpw said:

But those people just dismissing these as 'falling out of love' or 'hankerings' etc. should consider whether they're only 'in love' and content with their Note as 'fair weather' users; psychologically I wonder why they feel 'love' or the need to jump to the defense of a technology product?!

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It's not "defending" the Note. It's presenting a balanced picture of the facts. People rarely post to say how wonderfully well everything is going. Usually they post when they have a problem, and then more people join in with complaints. But where does that get us?

I'm certainly not making my posts to brag about my Note, to defend it or to rub salt into the wounds of those who are struggling. I'm posting to show what the Note could be like and should be like. If yours is not performing properly right now then consider that there is some hope - they certainly haven't all gone tits up - but resolving the problem may not be easy. You can't fix something until you know what's wrong in the first place. Just generalising that "the JB update broke it" is not helpful in the sense that it doesn't get to the bottom of why it all went horribly wrong and what it will take to fix it.

If you can't diagnose the problem then one logical option is to start back at the beginning, with a full wipe, clean install and slowly reconfiguring the machine and adding apps back gradually, one by one. I would strongly recommend not to restore apps or settings, but to install clean and then set them up from afresh. You may also want to leave the micro-SD card out for a while, in case that is causing problems or has corrupted data on it which might be detrimental. Basically, start from the simplest possible beginning and then work your way up towards a fully functioning machine. If/when things start to go horribly wrong perhaps you will be better placed to identify the problem cause.

p.s. To get my Note working as it is now I did go back to basics, with a full wipe, clean install and restored nothing. I even wiped all storage - both internal and external - so that there would be no hangovers from the past to upset the future. Anything now on the phone has been freshly installed and configured from scratch. It can be a pain, of course, to do that, but if it means a properly functioning device then perhaps it is worth it. It was for me.

p.p.s And if you really can't get JB working to your satisfaction then maybe go back to ICS. Better to to lose a couple of minor functional enhancements from Jelly Bean in order have a fully functioning device with good performance and battery life. It's really not like you'll be missing much, and you don't really miss what you never had in the first place.

My point is that tdodd, myself, and others - many of whom have not contributed to the debat, have perfectly good performance from our Notes. So by implication something is wrong and should be fixable with Notes that aren't working properly. It's not ideal that people find themselves saddled with problems but these devices are incredibly complex and problems will, from time to time happen. What I dislike is some people lambasting Samsung and the Note because theirs won't work properly and seemingly not interested in making a practical stab at fixing the problem.

And to continue from ifb's post....

have you looked to see if you have wakelocks preventing the phone (CPU) from entering deep sleep? This free app should help find the villain....

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uzumapps.wakelockdetector

Here's a sample screen print from my Note after 12 hours on battery. It's been in deep sleep mode most of the time (as was I for seven of those hours. ).