Root [Boost Mobile] [ROM] DroidSmith 1.7.3 Update and Full

jimsmith80 · May 24, 2013

Look at debian. Its the base for most modern Linux distros. Their philosophy is share and share a like. A dev should never worry about personal recognition. Its all about the advancement of the community

Doc · May 25, 2013

jimsmith80 said:
Look at debian. Its the base for most modern Linux distros. Their philosophy is share and share a like. A dev should never worry about personal recognition. Its all about the advancement of the community

Very well said sir...........

hate · May 25, 2013

mercury0x000d said:
Lol! Well maybe I should explain a little further. The option is functional, unless you hate a network time source available... which with 3G on is just about always If I recall correctly, this option becomes available if you have no service on the device. However, if you modify the settings menu's XML files as I did in Warp OEM, you can make the time zone option available anyway, regardless of the system's auto-time-set stupidity, however I don't recall if you can make the time set option available or not.

The details of doing said modification is a little involved for the scope of this post, but if you decide to tackle this, feel free to reference the WOEM settings APK and reverse engineer it to see all the modifications I made to it and how they work. I would post some screenshots, but I'm right in the middle of editing some smali in VTS and I really don't wanna close the project right this second lol

If you need more info, though, I'll be happy to go into more detail at a later date

tyvm for explaining. i'm just being picky about having options available and wanted to see if it was something that i could fix on my own... don't want to bother you guys with silly stuff.

jimsmith80 · May 25, 2013

hate said:
tyvm for explaining. i'm just being picky about having options available and wanted to see if it was something that i could fix on my own... don't want to bother you guys with silly stuff.

Its not a bother at all. If you had not have said anything I might have completely over looked it. User input is critical to development

BLVCKHVLO · May 25, 2013

jimsmith80 said:
Look at debian. Its the base for most modern Linux distros. Their philosophy is share and share a like. A dev should never worry about personal recognition. Its all about the advancement of the community

Pretty much. As far as I'm concerned people can do whatever they like with anything I have done so long as they give some cred if I came up with the original idea, this only being because I have seen so many projects start out as free, but end up with patents with no recognition or control over their own product- that is where I draw the line when it comes to recognition- I don't care as long as the idea constantly evolves, but if it ends up in somebody profiting, but not sharing? I want my piece of the pie.

Outside of that there are only two things that spur innovation when it comes to technology, and that is money/competition or unbarred sharing of ideas sans intellectual properties.

I'm not making money off of this, so libre, libre.

Don't get me wrong though, when it does indeed come to money I'm a bit of a wolf

but this just isn't one of those places. I view this sort of thing as a playground for creativity and learning and a way to keep my mind sharp. It's just puzzles for me... unfortunately it creates a bad habit of being disconnected with my outer world if I get too involved with this stuff.

TimeofDeath · May 25, 2013

jimsmith80 said:
Look at debian. Its the base for most modern Linux distros. Their philosophy is share and share a like. A dev should never worry about personal recognition. Its all about the advancement of the community

Exactly right! There are no patents on roms, that is why some roms could be completed but for some reason people dont put the good of the community ahead of themselves.

jimsmith80 · May 25, 2013

BLVCKHVLO said:
Pretty much. As far as I'm concerned people can do whatever they like with anything I have done so long as they give some cred if I came up with the original idea, this only being because I have seen so many projects start out as free, but end up with patents with no recognition or control over their own product- that is where I draw the line when it comes to recognition- I don't care as long as the idea constantly evolves, but if it ends up in somebody profiting, but not sharing? I want my piece of the pie.

Outside of that there are only two things that spur innovation when it comes to technology, and that is money/competition or unbarred sharing of ideas sans intellectual properties.

I'm not making money off of this, so libre, libre.

Don't get me wrong though, when it does indeed come to money I'm a bit of a wolf but this just isn't one of those places. I view this sort of thing as a playground for creativity and learning and a way to keep my mind sharp. It's just puzzles for me... unfortunately it creates a bad habit of being disconnected with my outer world if I get too involved with this stuff.

I have to agree with that. If someoone was to directly profit of our work I would be a little hurt.

mercury0x000d · May 25, 2013

In keeping with this discussion, does anyone know if we can legally sell or trademark our ROMs? A friend of mine and I were disputing this the other day; my view is, since we only modified someone else's (Google's) product, we couldn't sell or patent it ourselves, correct?

LilBit · May 25, 2013

El Correcto senior

jimsmith80 · May 25, 2013

I'm not going to pretend to have a full understanding of the GPL, but look a honeycomb. It's closed source. Mac OSX is also built off of FreeBSS 4.4, and is a closed source for profit software.

BLVCKHVLO · May 25, 2013

jimsmith80 said:
I'm not going to pretend to have a full understanding of the GPL, but look a honeycomb. It's closed source. Mac OSX is also built off of FreeBSS 4.4, and is a closed source for profit software.

well I think this most likely delves into proprietary hardware and branding. They have intellectual rights to the hardware and other stuff that it's embedded into the open source code that is functionally patentable. Ie Apple sued the ever living Christ out of Samsung for similar trademarked and patented functions in the interface.

TimeofDeath · May 25, 2013

mercury0x000d said:
In keeping with this discussion, does anyone know if we can legally sell or trademark our ROMs? A friend of mine and I were disputing this the other day; my view is, since we only modified someone else's (Google's) product, we couldn't sell or patent it ourselves, correct?

You are correct, but you could purchase a licensing Agreement from Google and then sell. Would cost a fortune tho!

BLVCKHVLO · May 25, 2013

TimeofDeath said:
You are correct, but you could purchase a licensing Agreement from Google and then sell. Would cost a fortune tho!

Right. So to patent a Rom you would do this and then trademark and copy right any original new code or functionality (ie TouchWiz).

LilBit · May 25, 2013

BLVCKHVLO said:
Right. So to patent a Rom you would do this and then trademark and copy right any original new code or functionality (ie TouchWiz).

Better get your wallet out, or contact the bank for a loan!!

BLVCKHVLO · May 25, 2013

LilBit said:
Better get your wallet out, or contact the bank for a loan!!

If I thought I had an idea and a working prototype with enough interest I certainly would. This or I would find investors or simply sell a patent to an interested party. I just don't see this as being to profitable without unique hardware. The only way I could see something like this as being profitable ifs of one simply made a whole new os or source code to sell to manufacturers. Otherwise you are better off simply developing apps.

LilBit · May 25, 2013

BLVCKHVLO said:
If I thought I had an idea and a working prototype with enough interest I certainly would. This or I would find investors or simply sell a patent to an interested party. I just don't see this as being to profitable without unique hardware. The only way I could see something like this as being profitable ifs of one simply made a whole new os or source code to sell to manufacturers. Otherwise you are better off simply developing apps.

Simple apps have made people Millionaires!!

Ever wonder what the dev's of Angry Birds ended up making?

Or a completely mindless app that made gross gas noises? Sold on the market for $1.00, Downloaded by millions of people!!!

The list goes on

BLVCKHVLO · May 25, 2013

LilBit said:
Simple apps have made people Millionaires!! Ever wonder what the dev's of Angry Birds ended up making?

Or a completely mindless app that made gross gas noises? Sold on the market for $1.00, Downloaded by millions of people!!!

The list goes on

Exactly!

LilBit · May 25, 2013

BLVCKHVLO said:
Exactly!

Remember me when you hit the big time!! LOL!!!

Vic_30 · May 26, 2013

Been using this rom for two weeks thanks to yo.. I installed the 1.4 then installed the 1.5 and had to install all my app over again where do I install this 1.5.5 as an update don't want to go inatall everything again

jimsmith80 · May 26, 2013

Thank you. Glad you like it. The updater script formats the data partition by defualt, so current version will also wipe all of your app from the device on install. You can however backup your data partition in recovery, and reflash it after install. I've done that with TWRP several times.

Vic_30 · May 26, 2013

Ah ok ill do that thanks again

jimsmith80 · May 26, 2013

No problem. Please let be know what you think of the latest version

jimsmith80 · May 28, 2013

Unreal. First my USB port and now the ear piece speaker is going out. My wife's warp is also dying. Well as long as it turns on DroidSmith is alive and well. My work on the new web browser looks to be almost done, so a new update should be coming soon.

LilBit · May 28, 2013

jimsmith80 said:
Unreal. First my USB port and now the ear piece speaker is going out. My wife's warp is also dying. Well as long as it turns on DroidSmith is alive and well. My work on the new web browser looks to be almost done, so a new update should be coming soon.

Looking forward to it!!

LilBit · May 30, 2013

Flashing again and running it for a while.

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