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Would you buy your Nexus again or get the Incredible?

I'm not on V but anyone of those phone would be nice and if you browse around on any phone they all have some kind of problem or issues it comes don't to the buyer,research what phone you like and you will get good and bad comments but you just have go with what you want and like and forget everyone else.
 
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i can upgrade when both of these phones hits VZW but guess which one im going with?

Nexus one... why?

Sense dont really care about- 8mp camera ehh 5mp is good enough, i can root and get all the apps put on my sd card so no big deal that the incredible has 8gb internal.

i currently own the droid. i cannot say anything about the N1 or incredible but the upgrades that the incredible has are not worth the extra money.

and as for the Quaftee dispute... you are uneducated im sorry i respect your opinion but you truly are. If you have not owned the N1 you cant say you dont like it period. I cant say it is better or worse than the Incredible but i can say that i can do the same things the incredible can do for cheaper. The only downside to the N1 is buying online only.

people complained about the droids hinge getting wobbly over time mine has not so i mean how can you judge a product when you dont own it?
 
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iand as for the Qraftee dispute... you are uneducated im sorry i respect your opinion but you truly are. If you have not owned the N1 you cant say you dont like it period. I cant say it is better or worse than the Incredible but i can say that i can do the same things the incredible can do for cheaper. The only downside to the N1 is buying online only.

people complained about the droids hinge getting wobbly over time mine has not so i mean how can you judge a product when you dont own it?
First, it's QrafTee, but I guess it's an honest mistake, only two letters are in between those two letters--although you type them with a different hand.

Why do people write game/movie reviews? I don't know what's your major malfunction. Why are their device forums, blogs, and support forums? So YOU don't need to find out the hard way about a device or a piece of software.

That's the difference between you and I--I AM educated.
 
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First, it's QrafTee, but I guess it's an honest mistake, only two letters are in between those two letters--although you type them with a different hand.

Why do people write game/movie reviews? I don't know what's your major malfunction. Why are their device forums, blogs, and support forums? So YOU don't need to find out the hard way about a device or a piece of software.

That's the difference between you and I--I AM educated.

While you are entitled to your own personal opinion, I think you are slightly missing the point when you submit all these claimed faults that the Nexus One has. My point is, if you actually had the bottle to purchase one, you would more than likely find that the phone would be perfectly fine.

I have had one or two of the reported issues (touchscreen one) but actually, this is nothing to do with the hardware of the phone but is the software. Actually, if you did now your facts about the phone and read up about it, you would know that the latest Cyanogen custom ROM claims to have fixed this issue. Certainly since rooting, I have the problem very very occasionally, & not had it once since the latest Cyan ROM.

Also, bear in mind that the Incredible and the Nexus will essentially be the same hardware with a few tweaks. Most of the hardware design will be in the same location. And btw, I would rather have the antenna of the phone at the bottom where my hand MAY mask the signal at times, rather than irradiating my brain.

As to the build quality of the phone, I suspect you will find it will be not as good as the Nexus. My wife has a Desire & while it is a nice phone, the Nexus feels sturdier as the aluminium chassis also partly wraps round the back of the phone & thereby, strengthens the chassis.

So, you haven't had a Nexus, you haven't had a Droid? So, I view your opinions as less relevant as you have no direct experience of any of these phones.

Sorry, I am not flaming, but I just don't see the relevance of your posts on this subject. Yep, happy to see your personal opinions, I just think they are a bit irrelevant and are shown for what they are. Waste of time!

IMHO, the Nexus is the best phone I have ever had & as it can be rooted easily, opens up the possibility for lots of things.

Also BTW, if you don't know, the Desire has not yet been completely rooted as HTC have changed their security protocols by embedding it into the Radio file. So, it MAY be that the phone may have issues with being rooted. If so, then the same will be with the Incredible (PERHAPS).
 
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Also, bear in mind that the Incredible and the Nexus will essentially be the same hardware with a few tweaks. Most of the hardware design will be in the same location. And btw, I would rather have the antenna of the phone at the bottom where my hand MAY mask the signal at times, rather than irradiating my brain.

So, you haven't had a Nexus, you haven't had a Droid? So, I view your opinions as less relevant as you have no direct experience of any of these phones.

Sorry, I am not flaming, but I just don't see the relevance of your posts on this subject. Yep, happy to see your personal opinions, I just think they are a bit irrelevant and are shown for what they are. Waste of time!

IMHO, the Nexus is the best phone I have ever had & as it can be rooted easily, opens up the possibility for lots of things.
And you are also entitled to you opinion, but to dismiss mine and calling it "hearsay" would be wrong. Maybe you haven't been on the internet for the past 3 months or so, so let me update you on the Nexus One's multitouch issue--which comes down to the hardware.

Robert Green, an Android app developer, was trying to program for the Nexus One, but found that the multitouch gestures weren't registering correctly so he created a fairly basic app to show where the screen was registering the multiple inputs. It's suffice to say what he found wasn't good, the screen wasn't recognizing the fingers at certain times and jumped around--so multitouch gestures weren't being recognized precisely.

The app he created can be demonstrated here: YouTube - Motorola Droid vs Nexus One: Multitouch Test (I believe it's in the Android Market as well)

He posted on the Google Developer's board and got a response:

Dianne Hackborn, Android Framework Engineer, said:
Sorry I meant exactly what I said: this is how the touch screen hardware on
the Nexus One works (which is essentially the same screen as on the G1 and
myTouch). The Droid has a sensor from a different manufacturer, with
different behavior. Other phones will likewise have different sensors.
This has nothing to do with the Android platform. Please do not file bugs
about it. Android is just reporting what the hardware is capable of
reporting.
Source: Multitouch seems badly broken on Nexus One 2.1-update1 - Android Developers | Google Groups
Reported by Phandroid: Nexus One Multi-Touch Severely Flawed? | Android Phone Fans

Here's a paint program being tested on the Nexus One: YouTube - Nexus One multitouch problems / issues - misregistering

Yes, it's been discussed that better drivers and cleaner coding may offset some issues, but the... I'll just let Green's words educate you:
Luke's code cleans up some basic stuff like gestures involving
pinching but it can not fix the two independent point problem.
Currently, even with his code which filters out some noise, it is
impossible to have a reliable control system involving two independent
virtual joysticks placed along the same axis. So many iPhone games
have that and I was actually planning it for my new release but
unfortunately it will not work. I'm talking about the controls where
you've got a touchable joystick on the bottom left and another one on
the bottom right. It's very common but currently impossible on
Android because of the hardware (though I'd really like to see some
raw data because looking through the core service classes, there is a
LOT of difficult-to-read code that seems to hack up the values quite a
bit).
Ironically, your "Well I don't have this problem" IS hearsay.

Good day, sir.
 
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And you are also entitled to you opinion, but to dismiss mine and calling it "hearsay" would be wrong.

Actually, just to correct you, I never dismissed your opinion out of hand. I just said, that as you keep quoting all these articles from the internet rather than having direct experience of actually using the phone, your views are less relevant!

And lo behold, to answer my comments, you post further comments and links from other forums/locations on the internet LOL.

So, question for your, what exactly are you using as a phone at the moment? Obviously not a N1, Droid (v1)?

Whatever phone you do have, why do you keep posting to the Nexus forum.......bit confused as to what your objectives are. Either that, or you clearly have too much time on your hands - fancy coming to help me out with some gardening & house renovation.....I will pay for your flight?

Oh, hang on a sec, the bloody airports are still shut ;-)
 
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Actually, just to answer the original question......

Even though I would possibly prefer the Incredible hardware (actually, maybe not as it does not have a physical trackball - don't like the wife's trackpad on her Desire!), I don't greatly like the Sense UI long-term.

Nexus then, as it can also be rooted! Or any other improved hardware, running Stock Android & released by Google......
 
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And you are also entitled to you opinion, but to dismiss mine and calling it "hearsay" would be wrong. Maybe you haven't been on the internet for the past 3 months or so, so let me update you on the Nexus One's multitouch issue--which comes down to the hardware.

Robert Green, an Android app developer, was trying to program for the Nexus One, but found that the multitouch gestures weren't registering correctly so he created a fairly basic app to show where the screen was registering the multiple inputs. It's suffice to say what he found wasn't good, the screen wasn't recognizing the fingers at certain times and jumped around--so multitouch gestures weren't being recognized precisely.

The app he created can be demonstrated here: YouTube - Motorola Droid vs Nexus One: Multitouch Test (I believe it's in the Android Market as well)

He posted on the Google Developer's board and got a response:

Dianne Hackborn, Android Framework Engineer, said: Source: Multitouch seems badly broken on Nexus One 2.1-update1 - Android Developers | Google Groups
Reported by Phandroid: Nexus One Multi-Touch Severely Flawed? | Android Phone Fans

Here's a paint program being tested on the Nexus One: YouTube - Nexus One multitouch problems / issues - misregistering

Yes, it's been discussed that better drivers and cleaner coding may offset some issues, but the... I'll just let Green's words educate you: Ironically, your "Well I don't have this problem" IS hearsay.

Good day, sir.

i dont care what these videos show (yes i've installed that multitouch app and tested out the problem for myself), that means absolutely nothing when it comes to using the phone day to day. pinch to zoom works just perfectly, exactly like an iphone, and there is no issues with it whatsoever. these videos you posted show an inherent flaw in the hardware chosen and how it would relate to using 3 or more touch points for games and such. so sure, if that means something to you, then the nexus isnt the phone for you. but posting these videos does not mean anything because the phone works perfectly fine. if you owned a nexus one you would understand that this issue is really non-existent.
 
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So I got to play with an incredible today, here are my thoughts:

Screen is MUCH brighter and clearer. Details looked amazing. My phone next to it made the N1 looks almost fuzzy. Granted I have my screen setting to auto and as low as possible but thats because it eats the battery life like crazy.

In regards to the battery life. I was at around the same battery usage as the incredible so I looked up the battery stats. AMAZiNG! Guess what WASNT the top battery user....right, the screen. Actually it was the system use that was draining most of the battery. The actual battery use was a paltry 18%. Mine at the same time next to it was a whopping 58%!!!

I dont really plan on rooting mine so if it came down to stock OS, I honestly like the sense better. The multi-screen pattern shape was nicer than having to flip side to side to get to the other home screens. Plus the weather and time app really gets me going on the Sense.

What I didnt like. First off, its on Verizon. I dont plan on switching from ATT anytime soon and doubt I ever will. Therefore, the Incredible is out right away. However, in terms of phone vs. phone build quality the nod jumps wayyyy in favor of the Nexus. The nexus reeks of high class. The Incredible was purely plastic and it felt like it in your hand. There was nothing substantial about it. Its also much less organic feeling. What I mean is it definitely felt more rectangular with edges whereas the Nexus feels svelte and much more modern.

Thats all I got for now but Im still really happy with the N1. About all the stupid videos above, who really uses both their fingers to draw lines like that? I have yet to find a time when I would be using both my fingers at the same time.
 
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Actually, just to correct you, I never dismissed your opinion out of hand. I just said, that as you keep quoting all these articles from the internet rather than having direct experience of actually using the phone, your views are less relevant!

And lo behold, to answer my comments, you post further comments and links from other forums/locations on the internet LOL.

So, question for your, what exactly are you using as a phone at the moment? Obviously not a N1, Droid (v1)?

Whatever phone you do have, why do you keep posting to the Nexus forum.......bit confused as to what your objectives are. Either that, or you clearly have too much time on your hands - fancy coming to help me out with some gardening & house renovation.....I will pay for your flight?

Oh, hang on a sec, the bloody airports are still shut ;-)
Um because I express interest in the device? How else do you do research and become an informed consumer? By sitting down at home twiddling your thumbs and buy a device you know nothing about? No, you might work that way, but I don't.

And no, I don't have neither devices, but my friends have Droids--which I do use--I have a Samsung Alias that I am very ready to part with.
i dont care what these videos show (yes i've installed that multitouch app and tested out the problem for myself), that means absolutely nothing when it comes to using the phone day to day. pinch to zoom works just perfectly, exactly like an iphone, and there is no issues with it whatsoever. these videos you posted show an inherent flaw in the hardware chosen and how it would relate to using 3 or more touch points for games and such. so sure, if that means something to you, then the nexus isnt the phone for you. but posting these videos does not mean anything because the phone works perfectly fine. if you owned a nexus one you would understand that this issue is really non-existent.
Yes, I understand that. But you need to understand that the Android Market won't evolve if this issue persists. I would like to be able to play more complex games on my device so that's why it is important. Many Android developers want to better utilize "high-end" devices like the N1, but cannot fully do it because of the hardware limitations.

Can it be used? Yes, definitely. I'm not saying that it's been rendered useless--obviously it still works in its core purpose: voice phone, internet browser, media player, etc.
 
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And no, I don't have neither devices, but my friends have Droids--which I do use--I have a Samsung Alias that I am very ready to part with.

@QrafTee = Fail!

Must admit, I am slightly gobsmacked by your post!

You post comments about the Nexus on the Android Forums website, pertaining that you have knowledge about the phones, when actually you have just read up about it/Android on the internet.

What annoys me even more is that you use this "knowledge" you have acquired to advise others in what to do about their choice of phone, whether it be Nexus, Desire, or whatever.

What made me laugh is that your Alias doesn't even have Android on it (unless I am very much mistaken), so how on earth you think you are in a position to offer advice to people, god only knows.

I will not respond any further to your posts, as to be honest, it is not worth spending valuable time replying to them as they have no merit or value based on user-experience whatsoever.

Sorry, but you are now on my ignore list.

Right, I am off to find a Ferrari owners forum to advise them with what to do & issues relating to the latest cars, even though I have no experience of owning one (have driven one though)!

All the best otherwise,
DaffyDuck
 
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@QrafTee = Fail!

Must admit, I am slightly gobsmacked by your post!

You post comments about the Nexus on the Android Forums website, pertaining that you have knowledge about the phones, when actually you have just read up about it/Android on the internet.

What annoys me even more is that you use this "knowledge" you have acquired to advise others in what to do about their choice of phone, whether it be Nexus, Desire, or whatever.

What made me laugh is that your Alias doesn't even have Android on it (unless I am very much mistaken), so how on earth you think you are in a position to offer advice to people, god only knows.

I will not respond any further to your posts, as to be honest, it is not worth spending valuable time replying to them as they have no merit or value based on user-experience whatsoever.

Sorry, but you are now on my ignore list.

Right, I am off to find a Ferrari owners forum to advise them with what to do & issues relating to the latest cars, even though I have no experience of owning one (have driven one though)!

All the best otherwise,
DaffyDuck
I never said my Alias has Android loaded onto it.

How do I know about Android? I did... wait for it... research. I've also used the Droid and Droid Eris. So yeah, I would think I know a bit about the OS.

Daffy, it seems you have finally understood that you have no basis for your argument. All you have is hearsay while I actually have an argument backed by proof and experts--you have nothing, but "Well I use it and it works so there's nothing wrong with [feature of Nexus One]." I know this because you've yet to prove me wrong at any point in this thread. Good day to you sir. May knowledge smile upon you from elsewhere.
 
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I never said my Alias has Android loaded onto it.

How do I know about Android? I did... wait for it... research. I've also used the Droid and Droid Eris. So yeah, I would think I know a bit about the OS.

Daffy, it seems you have finally understood that you have no basis for your argument. All you have is hearsay while I actually have an argument backed by proof and experts--you have nothing, but "Well I use it and it works so there's nothing wrong with [feature of Nexus One]." I know this because you've yet to prove me wrong at any point in this thread. Good day to you sir. May knowledge smile upon you from elsewhere.

Suppose we had better agree to disagree on this topic - bye ;-)
 
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Well after reading all the reviews out for the droid incredible i am impressed with it, however i will be sticking with my Nexus one for several reasons. 1) I would like to receive updates as soon as they are available from google, HTC has yet to update any of thier previously released sense phones (hero, eris, tattoo, etc.). I know that froyo and ginger bread will attempt to fix the fragmentation issue but as a previous behold2 owner who was highly bothered by the release of google nav(its still to this day not available on the behold 2,cliq, cliqxt, hero or eris) i will not be waiting and hoping for updates anymore. 2) ever since 2.1 eclair Im not a huge fan of sense, i can see why people are especially people who use thier phone for work, it just doesnt call my attention anymore, i do like the ability to switch profiles. 3) I dont like verizon i feel that they overcharge for everything. There are rumors that it may come to Tmobile but even then im not sure that i would grab one 4) The boost on mega pixels and the internal memory are nice but not enough to get me to jump from my nexus one, Plus their are still issues that need to be worked out with the memory being registered to certain apps 5) The build quality and materials on the incredible just dont do it for me.
I can see why verizon held off on the release of the nexus for the incredible the phones are pretty evenly matched, it will all come down to personal taste but ill stick with the nexus. for those of you on verizon there are definetly some exciting choices to be made
 
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Um because I express interest in the device? How else do you do research and become an informed consumer? By sitting down at home twiddling your thumbs and buy a device you know nothing about? No, you might work that way, but I don't.

INM not so HO, I do not find your interests in N1 sincere. One could say, and from the reactions to your posts and history that you have an agenga. I always do research before I commit on a purchase. What "I" don't do is to come on forums making posts nick picking, pointing out any flaw I can find and call it "because I'm doing research so that I may purchase it."

And no, I don't have neither devices, but my friends have Droids--which I do use--I have a Samsung Alias that I am very ready to part with.

Which IMO should be a limiting factor in some of your comments regarding the N1. How you word your posts reflects as though it's coming from an actual user. Owning or at least using an N1 for a while would give you more credibility to the type of comments you post and would garner less negative reactions.

Yes, I understand that. But you need to understand that the Android Market won't evolve if this issue persists. I would like to be able to play more complex games on my device so that's why it is important. Many Android developers want to better utilize "high-end" devices like the N1, but cannot fully do it because of the hardware limitations.

This issue does not affect the market at all. Unlike you, some of us like to have more robust, quality applications than games. The form factor severely limits it's use as a "game machine" anyway. Get a PSP or DS for that. I don't wan't Android to be know as a gaming OS. That would surely kill Android just like what happened to the Amiga (AmigaOS), Commodore's gaffs non withstanding.
 
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I never said my Alias has Android loaded onto it.

How do I know about Android? I did... wait for it... research. I've also used the Droid and Droid Eris. So yeah, I would think I know a bit about the OS.

"I would think I know a bit about the OS"

Sorry I had to quote it again. :p

That would be like me saying, I know a bit about Linux or say Subaru engines and then go on their forums to give out advice and knowledge just because I "read" about them!:)

Sorry, that was a smack+down+global=FAIL on you part, sir.:D
 
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To stay on topic. I would stay with the N1 because the Incredible is just an incremental improvement. Having a better touch sensor screen and 8mp camera is not enough to make me switch. I'm waiting for the next generation Android (hopefully Google) phones that will have the 1.5Ghz QSD8672 chipset later in the year.

If I never had an N1, I would get an Incredible only if it was GSM.

I'll never get ANY phone using CDMA.:rolleyes:

I'll never use Verizon as a carrier. :p I never like them since their Bell Atlantic days.
 
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