i noticed that if you kdz to ver c firmware, and then flash a loki recovery and ver f aboot, you can't get into recovery at all. i was thinking that aboot controlled getting into recovery but evidently i was wrong because it doesn't matter what ver aboot or kernel or recovery you use. you still can't get into recovery. so evidently some other partition controls the key combo to get into recovery. because i still have to do the back and home combo to get to recovery but it then freezes on lg logo instead of going to recovery even with f aboot. before flashing the custom recovery i flashed just f aboot and i still had to do the back and home combo instead of volume down and power. so i don't think aboot is the partition causing the data wipe in loki recovery. since the spirit is so close to the motion in hardware, maybe if i figure out which partition causes this, we can use the partition from the spirit to fix recovery since recovery works on spirit. just a thought.