12 killed in Navy Yard shooting rampage; suspects may be on loose - CNN.com
12 dead so far.
One of three gunmen dead. Sketchy info atm.
12 dead so far.
One of three gunmen dead. Sketchy info atm.
Maybe, but also queue both the NRA and the anti-"Personal Gun Ownership" groups to politicize the event before anyone's even had time to mourn their lost ones.
Another (rather large) piece of the puzzle...
"The man identified as the shooter in the Washington Navy Yard slayings had been arrested in Seattle in 2004 for shooting out the tires of a parked car in what he described as an anger-fueled "black out.""
"Seattle police said in a statement Monday that detectives later spoke with Alexis' father, who told police Alexis had anger management problems associated with PTSD, and had participated in rescue attempts on Sept. 11th, 2001."
Navy Yard suspect arrested in '04 Seattle shooting | US National Headlines | Comcast
Maybe if someone had intervened after his anger blackout in Seattle things could have turned out differently. He should have had an opportunity for treatment and should have been barred from owning a firearm back in 2004. The government dropped the ball on this.
It's becoming impossible to post about this case without bringing up access to firearms
Really, this and Sandy Hill demonstrate how big of a problem we have with the way we treat mental 'illness' in this country and that should be a bigger issue to address, seeing how much stigma we attach to it and how much we discourage talking about or getting help for problems.
Ronald Reagan. Thanks to Reagan we have alot of current issues his administration implemented. He believed in the old English myth, Robbing Da Hood, steal from the poor and give to the rich!Interesting that you brought that up. Quick pop quiz: who was the President who basically emptied the mental health hospitals ("insane asylums") a few decades back? Bonus points for making a connection between that action and the gradual increase in mass shootings and other heinious crimes we're seeing in the U.S.
I say "gradual" because I'm of the mind that it takes a generation or so for a political/social change to "take," making the kids and grandkids of those first impacted the ones we see doing the deeds caused by those changes.
We live in capitalist country. It's all about money. If we ban guns, imagine how much tax money government will lose. If you enforce $500 fees on all gun licenses (background check, metal check, family background check, training etc.) again, government is going to have very hard time passing it and again there won't be as much tax money, because some will bail out on it.
Every few months there is a mass shooting somewhere. How do you expect to stop it if no one changes any laws?
so we know security at least had weapons on premises... as far as any other type of weapon privs I would have to guess there were policies against any type of weapon.....
other than another shooting with multiple victims in a zone with numerous highly trained and well armed guards who were unable to stop the slaughter
Why does everyone in the media always want to focus on the gun, and not on the mind altering medication that the shooter was taking????
We have a proven mentally unstable man on psychoactive drugs- should he have had guns? I'll not lie, he shouldn't have, but then, there's a lot of things here that shouldn't have happened prior to that as well, going back a few years from what I understand regarding him.
This isn't about guns as much as the gun grabbing nut jobs want it to be though. This is about a crazy person on mind altering prescription drugs killing people on a base where our service members have been disarmed and unable to protect themselves, even though they risk their lives to protect this country.
To be fair, though, some of the groups grabbing their guns are theo nes grabbing them to 'defend' them. A lot of those FOR the private ownership of guns are crazy, too. I've heard a lot of bad arguments supporting gun ownership.
Back to the discussion at hand, so it is confirmed that it was only one, and not three, gunmen?
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