Verizon customer Nexus options

LuvMusic · Nov 6, 2013

Sandroidfan said:
Yeah, GSM is way to go with any Nexus device. CDMA phones don't play nice with Nexus. Verizon has decent coverage and some still have grandfathered unlimited. Granted that's huge thing, but everything else just sucks with them. I think they will even get rid of unlimited altogether at some point.

I agree and am one of those with grandfathered unlimited data on VZW. AND unlimited VZW data is NOT enough to keep me. Fortunately, I live in a major urban area that is well supported by TMo and that is where I'm going.

As for Verizon's coverage, yes, it is pretty good in the U.S. But CDMA bites you in the butt when you head over to Europe (or anyplace else) and I spend about 30% of my time in Europe. Another value add from TMo.

Gatman · Nov 6, 2013

LuvMusic said:
I agree and am one of those with grandfathered unlimited data on VZW. AND unlimited VZW data is NOT enough to keep me.

I said goodbye to my grandfathered unlimited data on Monday when I ported my number over to Straight Talk and activated my Nexus 5. I can't remember the last time I hit 2gb, and I have just come to hate Verizon's sales practices every time I stop in the store. I wanted a clean, unbloated phone, and was fine giving up the unlimited data to get one.

~Gary

Sandroidfan · Nov 6, 2013

Also many folks with VZW are still in firm belief their coverage is far superior to AT&T, Tmo. That may be still the case depending where you are.
But If you haven't look other carriers for last several years, you might be surprised how close others are in coverage. I didn't know how good ATT, Tmo are where I live until I started checking them.

jhawkkw · Nov 6, 2013

Sandroidfan said:
Also many folks with VZW are still in firm belief their coverage is far superior to AT&T, Tmo. That may be still the case depending where you are.
But If you haven't look other carriers for last several years, you might be surprised how close others are in coverage. I didn't know how good ATT, Tmo are where I live until I started checking them.

I was one of those people. I thought, "My city isn't that large, there's no way T-Mobile coverage here is that great" Well, I bought the Nexus 4 and tried it out thinking worse case scenario I go to AT&T because I know they're fine here. I try them out and I have HSPA or better coverage roughly 95% of the time. Two months after the switch, they turned on LTE here which my Nexus 4 could pick up. Really happy I made the switch. I can have the phones I want, free tablet data, and save $105 dollars a month while I'm at it.

zeekle · Nov 6, 2013

I am going to try ATT. right now I have a tmobile sim in my N5 and in South Nashville at my house and work I get sometimes LTE(10 meg download) but it has seems mostly to hit 1 meg hits 3g a lot. I haven't called on it enough to see how the call quality is.

Its a shame I really was wanting to support Tmobile.

krs128 · Nov 6, 2013

left Verizon and my $96.00 (15% gov discount included) unlimited data plan to head to AT&T or T-mobile. Will try my first month out on AT&T and 2nd month on T-Mobile and will make my desicion then.

will be nice saving $36-$66.00 a month, not sure why people want to stay on verizon.

Wolfedude88 · Nov 6, 2013

krs128 said:
left Verizon and my $96.00 (15% gov discount included) unlimited data plan to head to AT&T or T-mobile. Will try my first month out on AT&T and 2nd month on T-Mobile and will make my desicion then.

will be nice saving $36-$66.00 a month, not sure why people want to stay on verizon.

For me, Verizon is a little better than AT&T, and they are the exact same price as well. Tmobile is great signal wise when it goes to calls and text but most of my area is 2g only so no can do.

I get a better discount at work with Verizon so it is actually cheaper than Verizon.

I am considering switching to Straight talk though. I hate Verizon prices but AT&T is no better.

Rxpert83 · Nov 7, 2013

Wolfedude88 said:
For me, Verizon is a little better than AT&T, and they are the exact same price as well. Tmobile is great signal wise when it goes to calls and text but most of my area is 2g only so no can do.

I get a better discount at work with Verizon so it is actually cheaper than Verizon.

I am considering switching to Straight talk though. I hate Verizon prices but AT&T is no better.

It depends on your area most of the time. One carrier may be great food you or me, but horrible in a different area of the country. Its always important to check what's best in your neck of the woods.

And the nexus 5 allows you to go wherever it's best, assuming its not big red

Crude · Nov 10, 2013

krs128 said:
left Verizon and my $96.00 (15% gov discount included) unlimited data plan to head to AT&T or T-mobile. Will try my first month out on AT&T and 2nd month on T-Mobile and will make my desicion then.

will be nice saving $36-$66.00 a month, not sure why people want to stay on verizon.

I've spent the last month mapping Verizon's singnal and speed tests in my state. Recently some friends got the new n5 and they have been doing the same for a local company called iwireless. While Verizon generally had better data coverage in weird rural areas especially, it was rediculously slow. I averaged just over 3mbps with a high of 8mbps once in a while. Iwireless had almost no 4g but their 3g speeds almost always exceeded 10mbps. And while their coverage was worse off data wise they never have had a dropped call. Iwireless has great coverage in all of my states major cities as well as major highways.
Finally, a prepaid plan with iwireless was just $55 a month per line for unlimited everything making my bill just $110 for two lines. On the flip side Verizon has been getting$155 a month (after %18 corporate discount) from me and that does not include SMS on one line and a total of 700 shared minutes.
I'm currently waiting for an upgrade on my DSL and 2 N5s to show up for a total monthly savings of $40. On top of that I paid only $760 for two phones where with verizon I was looking at $1200 for two phones to keep my much needed unlimited data. In the first year alone I will save $920 and of I can agree to an AOL with some one I might be able to add a few more $ in savings.
The lesson I think is valuable here is LTE is not always better then hspa+.

recDNA · Nov 10, 2013

LuvMusic said:
FYI, Verizon has the G2 which the N5 is based off of. That said, I'm leaving Verizon for TMo. You can use the N5 on just about any carrier in the U.S. EXCEPT Verizon! Google to Verizon = :eviltongue:

If the G2 buttons were where they belong I would have one.

recDNA · Nov 10, 2013

krs128 said:
left Verizon and my $96.00 (15% gov discount included) unlimited data plan to head to AT&T or T-mobile. Will try my first month out on AT&T and 2nd month on T-Mobile and will make my desicion then.

will be nice saving $36-$66.00 a month, not sure why people want to stay on verizon.

Better reception.

Rxpert83 · Nov 10, 2013

recDNA said:
Better reception.

But like everything carrier related, that depends entirely on the on local factors in the area.

alostpacket · Nov 10, 2013

Signal

Have a look at 3G and 4G LTE Cell Coverage Map - OpenSignal and zoom into the 50-60 mile area where your probably spend 95% of your time. Click on Advanced View to get a clear picture (and then download their app to help them spread the word

)

Note that the graph is based on self reported signal, so it will be biased towards highways, trains, airports, and wherever people actually go.

You can see VZW has a clear lead nationally and has the best midwest coverage. ATT is not far behind. TMO and Sprint look like they're are way behind -- but I suspect a lot of that is misleading. VZW and ATT have roughly 2x the number of customers as TMO and Sprint. (approx 120M, 110M, 60M, 50M respectively [source] ).

Nevertheless, if you are near a medium to large city (200K-1M+) You will very likely get coverage from all 4 of the majors. They all do well in the east, especially the Northeast. And most do well in the OH valley thru Chicago, IL and surrounding area. All seem to cover CA and TX cities well, as well as Seattle, WA and surrounding.

Phones

As for phones, it's not a Nexus, but the VZW Moto X is an awesome device (I have used one), although in my town my TMO Moto X smoked the VZW Moto X in LTE speed. (but that's very dependent on where you are).

FWIW, you can also get a dev edition Moto X for VZW. If you want more battery (I like the Moto X battery), you can look at the Moto Droid Maxx with X8 (it should be kinda similar to the Moto X)

HTH!

/Acronym over-usage FTW.

alostpacket · Nov 10, 2013

Also personally I left VZW @ $90/month for TMO @ $30/m and I get better speeds and more reliable signal now.

Here's a thread where I wrote up all the costs and speeds: http://androidforums.com/motorola-moto-x/766416-pulled-trigger-tmo.html

ConnType	Download	Upload	Latency
Lte	16381	2710	51
Lte	4084	1844	51
Lte	20109	8354	49
Lte	16474	9892	97
Lte	21340	7359	91
Lte	18021	6277	99
Lte	9626	7380	88
Lte	7132	7188	109
Lte	12334	4719	101
Lte	23589	5979	87
Lte	14214	1474	100
Cell	12204	1590	105
Cell	8020	1082	452
Cell	11770	287	65
Lte	13284	8418	43
Lte	12096	9714	50
Lte	9207	6756	49
Lte	8759	4262	40
Lte	8715	9152	47
Hspa	3116	911	106
Cell	6772	665	440
Hspa	5192	876	447
Cell	5150	658	458
Wifi	39644	25401	44
Lte	17299	8838	38
Lte	12595	8200	45
Lte	11549	3370	88
Lte	9404	2058	96

LoyalServant · Nov 10, 2013

If you had to stick with verizon a moto x is probably a good compromise.

LuvMusic · Nov 10, 2013

If I was going to stay with VZW (with them now.....leaving ASAP), I'd be looking at the G2 or Note 3.

recDNA · Nov 21, 2013

LoyalServant said:
If you had to stick with verizon a moto x is probably a good compromise.

The hardware doesn't compare.

LoyalServant · Nov 21, 2013

No... But its a compromise.
On Verizon you can't have everything... Just what they say.

recDNA · Nov 23, 2013

LoyalServant said:
No... But its a compromise.
On Verizon you can't have everything... Just what they say.

I'd rather compromise with a G2 or Note 3. I don't want to encourage Motorola to continue to use outdated processors.

steveu694 · Nov 23, 2013

I just left Verizon because they won't carry the n5. Paid $210 to get out of contract. I'm very happy with my nexus. Google and Verizon don't mix. I won't be going back.

HanSolo · Nov 25, 2013

I just switched from Verizon to T-Mobile, not to get the N5, but because I'm sick of Verizon's crappy business practices and the fact that all the best phones either never show up on Verizon, or they usually appear months after everyone else.

Being on T-Mobile, I decided to go with the Nexus 5. If I ever had any doubts about leaving Verizon, this beast blew them away.

LTE is much faster than Verizon, no nasty bloatware, and customer service is awesome.

Verizon sucks.

LoyalServant · Nov 25, 2013

I guess the common thread here is that everyone knows that your not going to get a Nexus on Verizon and the answer is to dump Verizon.

They made things so hard for me with the Galaxy Nexus that I have been determined to never ever deal with them again. I don't care if the next Nexus device is an exclusive.. I will not give Verizon a red cent.

I have taken 7 customers from Verizon in the last year and a half and I will keep doing it until they decide to stop being a schoolyard bully.
All of you that took the plunge and jumped off Verizon AND got what you wanted by voting with your dollars.
You got your Nexus... and your happy.

If only more people actually voted with their dollars then we would have no issue with Nexus devices and Verizon.

jj14x · Nov 26, 2013

Crude said:
While Verizon generally had better data coverage in weird rural areas especially, it was rediculously slow. I averaged just over 3mbps with a high of 8mbps once in a while.

Over here on Sprint, 3mbps is close to the average LTE speed I've encountered in the DFW area since they launched LTE :mad:

Deleted User · Nov 26, 2013

I was with Verizon for something like 7 or 8 years but I just switched to straight talk. My fears about switching were that (1) I would miss Verizon's coverage and (2) I would miss my grandfathered-unlimited data plan.

So far (1 month) my coverage with Straight Talk (AT&T network) has been great, and I realize I really don't use that much data. Having a great phone is also nice... Oh yeah saving money is also good.

SO bottom line is that I'm really happy I switched, now I need to get my wife and her parents to switch so I can stop paying for this Verizon family plan...

LoyalServant said:
I guess the common thread here is that everyone knows that your not going to get a Nexus on Verizon and the answer is to dump Verizon.

They made things so hard for me with the Galaxy Nexus that I have been determined to never ever deal with them again. I don't care if the next Nexus device is an exclusive.. I will not give Verizon a red cent.

I have taken 7 customers from Verizon in the last year and a half and I will keep doing it until they decide to stop being a schoolyard bully.
All of you that took the plunge and jumped off Verizon AND got what you wanted by voting with your dollars.
You got your Nexus... and your happy.

If only more people actually voted with their dollars then we would have no issue with Nexus devices and Verizon.

LoyalServant · Nov 26, 2013

mpapazog said:
I was with Verizon for something like 7 or 8 years but I just switched to straight talk. My fears about switching were that (1) I would miss Verizon's coverage and (2) I would miss my grandfathered-unlimited data plan.

So far (1 month) my coverage with Straight Talk (AT&T network) has been great, and I realize I really don't use that much data. Having a great phone is also nice... Oh yeah saving money is also good.

SO bottom line is that I'm really happy I switched, now I need to get my wife and her parents to switch so I can stop paying for this Verizon family plan...

I had severe reservations about it myself but I was pleasantly surprised.
I think all of the carriers are inherently evil you just have to pick your level of evil.

What I hope is that T-Mobile keeps pushing the envelope like they are and doing well
and that will force the hand of Verizon. I just want to see Lowell and Fran squirm.

What I have been told by the insiders that I know is that they are exploring IMEI blocking so when the time comes they can maintain control over the handsets. They make a fair bit of money from their handset control racket.
So, when the CDMA network is decommissioned in the next 7-8 years and the thought of bringing that Nexus 12 godmode edition to Verizon because it does LTE-huffalump and VoLTE enters your mind.... take it back out

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