No more Nexus?

Slug · Feb 5, 2014

Shocky said:
Being able to switch overlays would make allot of enthusiasts very happy, but the average user probably wouldn't care.

At first maybe. If they had the option there on the handset though, I bet many more would try it than currently install a third-party launcher.

More importantly from the enthusiast's pov, if the overlay was switchable then it should be removable on a rooted device without breaking anything else.

Anyway, it would be sad to see the Nexus line go purely because you couldn't buy a device with the Nexus 5 specs for the same price

What's that old adage, "nature abhors a vacuum"? If there's a market for a Nexus-type device, and therefore money to be made, somebody will step in.

funkylogik · Feb 5, 2014

Are the nexus (phones not tabs) making enough money for an OEM to be interested in filling that void though?
Google are great at giving us stuff for "free"

Rxpert83 · Feb 5, 2014

You bring up a good point.

On one hand, they don't need a huge team of software devs if they aren't drastically changing the overlay, which would decrease cost

On the other, it would be made by a company who made their money off only the handset.

IMO It likely wouldn't be priced the same, or if it is...it wouldn't be speccd the same. Which is to say they'd cut costs elsewhere.

dibblebill · Feb 5, 2014

Didn't I read somewhere that Google takes a loss on every Nexus 5 sold from the Play Store? Amazon and Google might be able to pull that off, but not everybody has that kind of app backing to do it.

rui-no-onna · Feb 5, 2014

Slug said:
What's that old adage, "nature abhors a vacuum"? If there's a market for a Nexus-type device, and therefore money to be made, somebody will step in.

Most Chinese phones and tablets are pretty much stock Android. Alas, they're GSM only, likely no LTE, practically no warranty support and they tend to have poor battery life.

That said, I just received my Verizon prepaid Motorola Moto G ($100) and I'm liking how Motorola just kept practically everything stock. I'm hoping they will continue this trend even now that they've been bought by Lenovo.

GandalfTehGray · Feb 5, 2014

funkylogik said:
D'oh. I recently bought a 1st gen lol.
Would that prevent 3rd party updates too?

Not likely, imo.

Yeah I realized after I posted this I had 50+ more messages to read, forgot I was on page 1. Hopefully Google will support it a while because I've only rooted mine. Haven't bothered with any Roms yet after nearly 2 years now.

funkylogik · Feb 5, 2014

Yeah it doesnt need a rom yet mate. Stock kitkat rom is lovely (with a few lil tweaks)

GandalfTehGray · Feb 5, 2014

funkylogik said:
Yeah it doesnt need a rom yet mate. Stock kitkat rom is lovely (with a few lil tweaks)

All I got is gmd gesture control honestly, I mean Titianium is installed but doesn't really do anything for me atm.
I kinda want to get into Gravitybox or whatever on the N7 before I give it a go on Moto X. Since its easy to fix the N7 if something went wrong.

funkylogik · Feb 6, 2014

I might get into trouble for goin off topic but we are talkin about a nexus

I have a couple of topics about Xposed Framework in the nexus 7 root forum. Its highly recommended. And to boost performance a bit, Franko Kernel

zipred · Feb 6, 2014

Slug said:
Here's a thought... if Google axe the Nexus, perhaps it will be with the proviso that OEMs at last provide users with the option to switch off their own overlay in favour of the stock UI. Iirc this was mooted in the past but never came to fruition - this could be the opportunity.

Brilliant Thinking!

Should this come true I'd be so happy... I wouldn't know how to act

ImpKali · Feb 7, 2014

My first Nexus device (Well, not a true Nexus device, but a Google Experience Device) was a Motorola Xoom Wi-Fi edition. To date it has been the single best Android device I've owned, with stellar build quality, hardware that is still more than adequate for me nearly three years later, and a wonderful community that has kept this thing up to date even now into Android 4.4.2.

In that time I've had a Galaxy S1 (Showcase), and two Galaxy S3s, one of which is my primary phone, the other an MP3 player. Neither have that premium feel or build quality I adore so much about my Xoom and Samsung's implementation of Android is, for lack of a better word, utter garbage. We need Nexus devices to show the other OEMs how it's done, and in my opinion, I'm going with only Nexus devices from here on out. I'm patiently waiting for the Nexus 10 2, and my next phone's gonna be whatever implementation they have when my contract's up in a year.

davoid · Feb 7, 2014

Aren't they going to stop producing nexus devices because they've screwed up their naming policy and have no more numbers left they can use?

Because they short-sightedly named their nexus tablets according to the size of their screens the next phone cannot be called the nexus 7.

They obviously cannot call it a nexus 6 because of Philip K Dick's estate, so where can they go with it?

dibblebill · Feb 7, 2014

davoid said:
Aren't they going to stop producing nexus devices because they've screwed up their naming policy and have no more numbers left they can use?

Because they short-sightedly named their nexus tablets according to the size of their screens the next phone cannot be called the nexus 7.

They obviously cannot call it a nexus 6 because of Philip K Dick's estate, so where can they go with it?

Nexus 5 (2014)

jhawkkw · Feb 7, 2014

davoid said:
Aren't they going to stop producing nexus devices because they've screwed up their naming policy and have no more numbers left they can use?

Because they short-sightedly named their nexus tablets according to the size of their screens the next phone cannot be called the nexus 7.

They obviously cannot call it a nexus 6 because of Philip K Dick's estate, so where can they go with it?

They didn't explicitly call the 2nd or 3rd generation nexus phones the Nexus 2 or Nexus 3, so they could begin a new scheme with letters or something else entirely.

dibblebill · Feb 7, 2014

They did call the new Nexus 7 the Nexus 7 2013...

davoid · Feb 7, 2014

dibblebill said:
They did call the new Nexus 7 the Nexus 7 2013...

An inelegant workaround (in my opinion

)

funkylogik · Feb 7, 2014

Wonder what theyll call the rumoured 8" tab

I think they should just name each phone "Nexus 20xx" and tablet "Nexus Tab 20xx"

Rxpert83 · Feb 7, 2014

They just advertised it as the all new nexus 7. I think that works just fine.

Retailers and forums slapped the year on there for clarity

GandalfTehGray · Feb 7, 2014

funkylogik said:
I might get into trouble for goin off topic but we are talkin about a nexus
I have a couple of topics about Xposed Framework in the nexus 7 root forum. Its highly recommended. And to boost performance a bit, Franko Kernel

2012 or 2013?

funkylogik · Feb 7, 2014

GandalfTehGray said:
2012 or 2013?

2012 mate

dibblebill · Feb 8, 2014

davoid said:
An inelegant workaround (in my opinion )

I thought they were borrowing that from the automotive industry

Gmash · Feb 8, 2014

I think it is ridiculous. They were trying to be like Apple again. (The "new" iPad)

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