I dont get it.. What is up with update delay?????

Robert7107 · Mar 2, 2014

The note 3 is newer then the galaxy s4 by 5 months. Why is the s4 getting 4.4.2 before note 3?
I am with at&t..

MrClean · Mar 2, 2014

Just a guess on my part, there are likely a lot more customers with the S4 than the Note3. Some carriers will want to get the update to the largest customer base first. I know nothing definite, just seems like that might be their thinking.

Rxpert83 · Mar 2, 2014

They've also had 5 months longer to be working on the update to the S4

dynomot · Mar 2, 2014

The S4 was promised the update along time ago, before the Note 3 actually retailed and the next update was still known as Key Lime Pie. They have been waiting longer than Note 3 owners anyway. That and the S4 is actually the flagship, not the Note 3 which isn't a phone but that horrible word a "phablet".

recDNA · Mar 2, 2014

Are you in a hurry to make your sd card useless?

Gomjaba · Mar 3, 2014

Worst than your carrier delay is our Unbranded International delay in the UK I think. Never happened before I don't think.

Bradyy · Mar 3, 2014

The reason for that is because the Nexus is made by Google, so updates get pushed to google phones a lot sooner.

Lateck · Mar 3, 2014

I would say it's your carrier.
I have Sprint and I have 4.4.2 on my Note 3. It is out there...... Sammy has done it's part.

Lateck,

bonerp · Mar 3, 2014

It hasn't.... I'm sim free unbranded and not got it yet :mad:

:thumbdown:

Rukbat · Mar 3, 2014

recDNA said:
Are you in a hurry to make your sd card useless?

That, and the reported wifi problems. I have the updater frozen. My phone works. I'm not in a hurry to turn it into a paperweight, even if AT&T will eventually (like in a few months) fix it.

Mingus Jim · Mar 3, 2014

Robert7107 said:
The note 3 is newer then the galaxy s4 by 5 months. Why is the s4 getting 4.4.2 before note 3?
I am with at&t..

A friend of mine has a new Galaxy S4 and has Consumer Cellular as a provider, which uses AT&T's network. He got the KitKat upgrade a few days ago and he likes it. I have a Note 3 and had an on-line chat with both Verizon, my provider, and Samsung last week. Verizon said they have not heard from Samsung on the update to KitKat and Samsung said they won't provide any idea on when the upgrade will be available to Verizon as they don't want to put out false information. Both answers were less than acceptable. Sprint and AT&T have the update and why Verizon seems to be in the dark I don't know.

Rukbat · Mar 3, 2014

Mingus Jim said:
Samsung said they won't provide any idea on when the upgrade will be available to Verizon as they don't want to put out false information. Both answers were less than acceptable.

Whether you accept them or not, that's how it is in the software development business. When you have a firm date by which the software is ready to be released, that date is "now" and you release it. Before that you don't know if fixing that last little bug will take 5 minutes or 5 weeks.

Or are you saying that they should give a firm release date even if they can't meet it? Or if they have to release a buggy ROM?

bonerp · Mar 4, 2014

...and HTC are now having kit kat issues with the One....its been pulled.

Maybe I won't bother looking for the update for a bit!

dynomot · Mar 4, 2014

bonerp said:
...and HTC are now having kit kat issues with the One....its been pulled.

Maybe I won't bother looking for the update for a bit!

Yes I am holding off on Kit Kat. I have just turned off my phone notifying me about the update OTA (wouldn't work with a rooted phone and a custom recovery anyway - be nice if it would work: no resetting up after a manual Odin flash!). I've got the new firmware, CF rooting file and new version of my chosen recovery all ready and waiting, but going from Jelly Bean to KitKat means a new bootloader and no chance of resorting a Nandroid should I A) not like it or B) get "issues".

Mingus Jim · Mar 4, 2014

Rukbat said:
Whether you accept them or not, that's how it is in the software development business. When you have a firm date by which the software is ready to be released, that date is "now" and you release it. Before that you don't know if fixing that last little bug will take 5 minutes or 5 weeks.

Or are you saying that they should give a firm release date even if they can't meet it? Or if they have to release a buggy ROM?

Having been a software developer for AT&T Bell Labs/Lucent Technologies, I know something about schedules and updates. There is no way Samsung does not have a schedule on its releases, so there is no way they are unable to give some idea on when a particular update will be released to a particular provider. The KitKat update has been released to Sprint and AT&T, so they can't tell me they have no idea when it will be released to Verizon customers. No word on the update for my wife's Galaxy S4 yet, either.

dynomot · Mar 4, 2014

Mingus Jim said:
Having been a software developer for AT&T Bell Labs/Lucent Technologies, I know something about schedules and updates. There is no way Samsung does not have a schedule on its releases, so there is no way they are unable to give some idea on when a particular update will be released to a particular provider. The KitKat update has been released to Sprint and AT&T, so they can't tell me they have no idea when it will be released to Verizon customers. No word on the update for my wife's Galaxy S4 yet, either.

Surely once the firmware is given to carriers it is out of Samsung's hands? It is up to the carrier if and when their users get it.

Gomjaba · Mar 5, 2014

Where do the unbranded / unlocked / international ones though ? Still nowhere to be seen and no carrier involved.

dynomot · Mar 5, 2014

Gomjaba said:
Where do the unbranded / unlocked / international ones though ? Still nowhere to be seen and no carrier involved.

In the UK, Car Phone Warehouse , Phones4U, Amazon, to name but three.

Samsung Note 3 Black | Note 3 Black Deals

Samsung Galaxy Note 3 sim only deals & offers | The Carphone Warehouse

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/s/ref...ree+unlocked&sprefix=samsung+galaxy+note+3+si

Scootmien · Mar 5, 2014

recDNA said:
Are you in a hurry to make your sd card useless?

Yep, this happened to mine. I await an update to correct this frustrating problem.

Gomjaba · Mar 5, 2014

dynomot said:
In the UK, Car Phone Warehouse , Phones4U, Amazon, to name but three.

Samsung Note 3 Black | Note 3 Black Deals

Samsung Galaxy Note 3 sim only deals & offers | The Carphone Warehouse

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/s/ref...ree+unlocked&sprefix=samsung+galaxy+note+3+si

You talked about carrier. Those aren't. Those are just independent shops. Doubt they have anything to do with software updates.

evohicks · Mar 5, 2014

Scootmien said:
Yep, this happened to mine. I await an update to correct this frustrating problem.

What happened?
I updated fine no problems with my card, what's the issue here?

Hazerade · Mar 5, 2014

recDNA said:
Are you in a hurry to make your sd card useless?

Is the new update bricking your ability to use your sd card? Haven't heard of this until now. I'm with Verizon.

jamsterdm · Mar 6, 2014

Still nothing for uk unbranded. Seems to be pretty much everywhere else now

Gomjaba · Mar 7, 2014

jamsterdm said:
Still nothing for uk unbranded. Seems to be pretty much everywhere else now

Even US carriers which is really unusual.

drexappeal · Mar 7, 2014

Everyone that is worried about not having received the Kitkat update yet, be glad. There is a bug on the Kitkat update, that is causing excessive battery drain. Apparently, it has some sort of connection to the camera/qualcomm processor combination. Chris Chavez had mentioned it on the Phandroid podcast.

Initially, my update on Sprint was fine, but I started experiencing the battery drain issue yesterday, so hopefully Google releases their update to all the manufacturers (Samsung, in our case) soon, and it doesn't take too long for the carriers to pass it through also.

For those that are unbranded, but still haven't received the Kitkat update, definitely be thankful because a carrier won't delay the update even longer.

BTW, another thing I thought about (for those unbranded)...if you're really in such a rush to get Kitkat, I'd also try checking through Kies (actually connecting, not using wireless connection). I remember, when I had my international Note 2, that was the only way I actually received an update that had been released (but never showed up as an OTA update). Otherwise, if you don't need it right now, I'd highly suggest waiting until Google releases the revision to 4.4.2 (or update to 4.4.3).

I dont get it.. What is up with update delay?????

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