Android 4.4 are you serious?

kolosus · Apr 28, 2014

I've been living in the land of android past. Just recently have I taken a look at 4.4 kk. My phone has had kk for a bit but I was fine with JB and didn't try it. Recently I was getting tired of the JB rom that I was running and it was time to flash something else. So I thought why not try kk.

Tried a few different varieties. I even tried CM. Guess what?

On android 4.4 you can only delete the entire call log. Deleting only certain calls/numbers are not allowed.

Wait. What happened? Why? Why would something like that be taken away? Correct me if I'm wrong. Is this a feature of open source roms only or is this the new feature that's going to be in android kk onwards?

I'd like to hear what others have to say about this? I know this is not a feature that everyone uses but I use it almost everyday. I delete certain calls from my phone history and nobody has access to look up the calls that I've placed from my carrier website.

Let's get a discussion going on why this was removed, how it can be put back and who do I talk to about getting this feature back into kk?

El Presidente · Apr 28, 2014

Might be something specific for your device. If I long press any of the dialled numbers in my call log, I get the option to delete (Xperia Z1).

Rukbat · Apr 28, 2014

kolosus said:
I'd like to hear what others have to say about this?

I say 4.3. There are just too many things wrong with 4.4 for me to consider updating without a clear downgrade path back to 4.3. (And on the AT&T Note 3, that's impossible if you accept the official update.)

funkylogik · Apr 28, 2014

El Presidente said:
Might be something specific for your device. If I long press any of the dialled numbers in my call log, I get the option to delete (Xperia Z1).

on mine (stock android kitkat dialer [the app is called "phone"]) you just tap the log entry, hit menu, "remove from call log" so its definitely possible in kitkat, whether a manufacturer has messed with that is a different story.
What dialer app are you using OP?
P.s, its a function ive never had to use until testing it just now lol

Hadron · Apr 29, 2014

At the risk of being "me too" it's possible on my HTC One (4.4.2) as well.

You list quite quite a few devices. Which one has this problem?

GrenW · Apr 29, 2014

Vanilla android 4.4 has this option too. Go to call log, click on the call you want to remove and then hit the menu button and choose delete this call from log.

SulkyAndroid17 · Apr 29, 2014

funkylogik said:
on mine (stock android kitkat dialer [the app is called "phone"]) you just tap the log entry, hit menu, "remove from call log" so its definitely possible in kitkat, whether a manufacturer has messed with that is a different story.

GrenW said:
Vanilla android 4.4 has this option too. Go to call log, click on the call you want to remove and then hit the menu button and choose delete this call from log.

This works for me.

kolosus · Apr 29, 2014

Thanks for the ideas folks. I have gone back to 4.3 and now the problem is gone. Cleaning out my phone log is very necessary for me. I cannot live without it. And having a completely clean call log is very suspicious.

Anyway. My device is the Galaxy S3. From Sprint. I've used CM. SlimKat and a few others. I encountered this in all the variations. Possibly because it is in the CM for my device and that all the roms that I've tried are based off CM. There is no official rom support for my device yet for 4.4.

GrenW said:
Vanilla android 4.4 has this option too. Go to call log, click on the call you want to remove and then hit the menu button and choose delete this call from log.

I haven't tried this and since I'm back to 4.3 I cant try it right now. I'll make a backup of my current setup (which I started from scratch) and then reflash 4.4 and see if that's possible.

I'm having a hard time adjusting to some other features of 4.4 too. I have my contacts backed up to my gmail and I have a bunch of people on my Google Voice. I install the app when necessary and call and text through that. When I'm done using Google voice I uninstall the app and clean out my phone log. Google's idea of merging voice into the "experience" is going to have to make me get a different phone or a secondary phone.

I also saw that 4.4 has "profiles". Haven't tried it yet but is it something where you can have one "identity" as profile 1 and another as profile 2. Call logs and text messages and contacts are not merged? And no. It is not secret spy stuff that I dabble in.

funkylogik · Apr 30, 2014

I cant remember if the "phone" app is part of the rom or in the 4.4 gapps..anyone?
And you could probably find the old jellybean dialer as a flashable zip or apk. I know some people still prefer it. Actually i could maybe get hold of the apk if you want.

I think you should persevere with kitkat a bit. Im on the s3 too (international variant though) and the phone has never felt so alive, especially if you enable the new Android Run Time (ART).
CM is fine but Liquid is better or Validus or Carbon (im running Carbon) :beer:

funkylogik · Apr 30, 2014

And the profile thing, do you mean user accounts?

kolosus · Apr 30, 2014

funkylogik said:
I think you should persevere with kitkat a bit. Im on the s3 too (international variant though) and the phone has never felt so alive, especially if you enable the new Android Run Time (ART).
CM is fine but Liquid is better or Validus or Carbon (im running Carbon)

Not sure what the profiles are. I'll look up the exact term used once I reflash 4.4. In the mean time, have you tried SlimKat? I really liked that. Do they have an international version of that?

How do I enable ART?

GrenW · Apr 30, 2014

funkylogik said:
I cant remember if the "phone" app is part of the rom or in the 4.4 gapps..anyone?

It's part of the rom I use - AOKP. Some Gapps may include/delete/replace the dialer.

Tsepz_GP · Apr 30, 2014

On my Galaxy S4 with Samsung's 4.4 KitKat I just long press the contact in the log and it has the option to delete that particular entry.

funkylogik · Apr 30, 2014

kolosus said:
Not sure what the profiles are. I'll look up the exact term used once I reflash 4.4. In the mean time, have you tried SlimKat? I really liked that. Do they have an international version of that?

How do I enable ART?

in developer options, "select run time".
When you switch it to ART it reboots and takes a LONG time to boot while optimising the apps so don't panic.
If developer options are hidden, in "about phone" tap "build number" 7 times to unhide them :thumbup:

Mayhem · Apr 30, 2014

I'm running 4.4.2 (XenonHD ROM) on my Nexus and I see that option as well..

kolosus · Apr 30, 2014

Tsepz_GP said:
On my Galaxy S4 with Samsung's 4.4 KitKat I just long press the contact in the log and it has the option to delete that particular entry.

Long press is certainly not an option. That's the first thing I tried. I'm still on 4.3 and haven't had time to make a backup yet.

kolosus · May 1, 2014

GrenW said:
Vanilla android 4.4 has this option too. Go to call log, click on the call you want to remove and then hit the menu button and choose delete this call from log.

I finally flashed back to 4.4 and tried this. It worked. Thanks a bunch. When long press didn't work I threw in the towel. Should've tried a little harder.

funkylogik said:
CM is fine but Liquid is better or Validus or Carbon (im running Carbon)

I'm on Liquid now. It is nice.

funkylogik · May 1, 2014

4.4.2? The wife has liquid on her s3.she had problems with the camera crashing but the latest update (Monday's I think) seems perfect

kolosus · May 2, 2014

funkylogik said:
4.4.2? The wife has liquid on her s3.she had problems with the camera crashing but the latest update (Monday's I think) seems perfect

I've been using it for a bit now. No complaints. Only thing I noticed is that if you install a bunch of apps from Play the phone gets wonky. I had to pull the battery twice. But I dont usually install that many apps at one time.

No problems with the camera but I do miss the burst camera shots that was part of the TW roms.

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