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Are you planning on getting the G3

Are you getting one?

  • Yep

    Votes: 27 55.1%
  • Nope

    Votes: 11 22.4%
  • Holding off to see if the M8/SGS5 Prime rumours are true

    Votes: 11 22.4%

  • Total voters
    49
The sample pix on the web so far look good from the G3. Good detail and light capture. I am happy with the S4 pix anyway. The M8 pix look good, but are blurry when blown up to 8X10. S4 is sharp & detailed. BTW, I prefer the pix taken by the S4 than the S5, which I did not expect. Only compared at one sitting though.

Interesting no carrier besides apparently Tmo have committed to 2/16 and or 3/32. One dark horse in all this is if the displays are a production constraint. That would put a big monkey wrench in this for carriers and customers.
 
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I was very excited after watching the live stream of the G3 event this week. As one who too often is quite verbose I'll keep this short.

It's all about the 5.5" display in a relatively compact body. Thin bezels and no Samsung style mechanical home button make this phone so sleek and simple.

A question for those of you that have experience with both 5.5" and 5.7" displays. How much will I miss the spacious 5.7" I'm presently enjoying on my Note 3?

When talking buttons, I despise the mechanical home button on my Note 3 and absolutely love the absence of it on my Nexus 5. To get rid of the dreaded home button alone and have the enjoyable touch sensitive buttons like my LG Nexus 5 is a huge attraction for me

For my purposes the G3 is the one smartphone closest to perfect there is at the present. Cost is not something that factors in. Moreover it's everything else that I find compelling.

I would value your thoughts, experiences, opinions. Other than my prior Nexus 4, and present favorite Nexus 5, I have no other experiences with LG phones.

Thank You All :)
 
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funny, I hate onscreen buttons and would love to have the capacitive buttons instead.

Those onscreen buttons eat up the screen real estate, comprendo?

True. It effectively makes it the same size as the S5 (about 5.1"). It hides for video and some apps, but not all. The main reason I liked the S3 and now the S4 is the display is not wasted. These displays are too small to waste space like this, but come from the same geniuses that killed third party apps with micro sd: Google.

I really wish the S5 had a 32GB model and the Verizon one could be rooted, specifically due to the buttons. Personal preference :)
 
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True. It effectively makes it the same size as the S5 (about 5.1"). It hides for video and some apps, but not all. The main reason I liked the S3 and now the S4 is the display is not wasted. These displays are too small to waste space like this, but come from the same geniuses that killed third party apps with micro sd: Google.

I really wish the S5 had a 32GB model and the Verizon one could be rooted, specifically due to the buttons. Personal preference :)

You would think at this point the geniuses at Google should have been able to figure it out, no? :D
 
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funny, I hate onscreen buttons and would love to have the capacitive buttons instead.

Those onscreen buttons eat up the screen real estate, comprendo?

True. It effectively makes it the same size as the S5 (about 5.1"). It hides for video and some apps, but not all.


Hopefully the G3 includes the feature to allow choosing which apps you'd like to hide the on-screen buttons,as w/the G-FLEX.A swipe-up from the bottom of the screen brings them back into view.

The FLEX does have the menu button instead of the recently opened apps button,but,I'd guess this shouldn't preclude the G3 from having the hide buttons option.

Hopefully,someone gets an A-to-Z review video posted soon,I'd guess such would mention the feature if it's present.
 
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Hopefully the G3 includes the feature to allow choosing which apps you'd like to hide the on-screen buttons,as w/the G-FLEX.A swipe-up from the bottom of the screen brings them back into view.

The FLEX does have the menu button instead of the recently opened apps button,but,I'd guess this shouldn't preclude the G3 from having the hide buttons option.

Hopefully,someone gets an A-to-Z review video posted soon,I'd guess such would mention the feature if it's present.

That's not a very elegant solution at all, as it leads to rampant swiping the navigate the device UI.

I just prefer off-screen buttons, they yield back screen real-estate and look better.
 
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That's not a very elegant solution at all, as it leads to rampant swiping the navigate the device UI.

I just prefer off-screen buttons, they yield back screen real-estate and look better.


Point taken, it's not perfect, but, I'm OK w/it.
This is one of reasons I'm interested in the OnePlus One.

It has both, & I'm guessing there's a way to fine tune which apps have on-screen buttons & which get capacitive input.
 
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Also, can someone explain to me why a removable battery is so important to some people?

You can use it exactly like a phone with a non-removable battery.

But it also gives you options.

1. Your phone stays out of the landfill and remains useful much longer.
- Pass if on after two years to someone else, who can use it for four years more.
- Use an old phone as a media player/book reader (like the Samsung Galaxy Player).
- Use an old phone as a dashcam with DailyRoads Voyager app.
- Use an old phone as a OBD II auto diagnostics tool with Torque Pro app.
- Use an old Nokia Windows phone with free offline Nokia Here maps as a GPS.
[Middle 3 above are real examples for me. 1st and last are future examples for me.]

2. Your spare power comes in a much smaller package.
- I go into the city occasionally with nothing but phone and wallet. So a teensie spare battery fits in any small pocket, while a power pack would be bigger.
- You can carry days and days of power (like 6 or 8 batteries on a camping trip) in the size of a deck of cards.
[Above are real examples for me.]

3. You can charge the batteries separately.
- Instantly have full power with no extra bulk when you need it.
- Becomes especially useful if your micro USB charging port on your phone is broken, and you don't have wireless charging.
[1st above is real example for me.]

4. Some phones offer additional features with a removable back:
- wireless charging back
- extended battery
- flip case that replaces the back.
[1st two above are real examples for me.]


Possible Drawbacks:
- may be thicker than one with a non-removable battery
- depending on the phone construction, the back might come off easily when the phone is dropped.
 
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Hopefully the G3 includes the feature to allow choosing which apps you'd like to hide the on-screen buttons,as w/the G-FLEX.A swipe-up from the bottom of the screen brings them back into view.

The FLEX does have the menu button instead of the recently opened apps button,but,I'd guess this shouldn't preclude the G3 from having the hide buttons option.

Hopefully,someone gets an A-to-Z review video posted soon,I'd guess such would mention the feature if it's present.

How does that work for games? Some games and emulators would use that type of swipe action. Is there an option to disable this function with apps?

Looking forward to test to see if it will be a problem. My main concern now is throttling. I have seen several mentions of this from a few hands-on and a review. Hoping LG's solution for battery management of the display is not dynamic throttling. For web and movies that would not be an issue, but for games it would be.

Not seeing how you can have a bigger and higher res display with the same size battery, with the same 28 micron design and not have less battery life. Nothing is for free ;)

And No, I will not trust a bunch of folks that just bought the device, since they will be blinded by new device pixie dust- the Ultimate bias of objectivity ;) For fanboys it is forever and for the others about two weeks to wear off :)
 
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You can use it exactly like a phone with a non-removable battery.

But it also gives you options.

1. Your phone stays out of the landfill and remains useful much longer.
- Pass if on after two years to someone else, who can use it for four years more.
- Use an old phone as a media player/book reader (like the Samsung Galaxy Player).
- Use an old phone as a dashcam with DailyRoads Voyager app.
- Use an old phone as a OBD II auto diagnostics tool with Torque Pro app.
- Use an old Nokia Windows phone with free offline Nokia Here maps as a GPS.
[Middle 3 above are real examples for me. 1st and last are future examples for me.]

2. Your spare power comes in a much smaller package.
- I go into the city occasionally with nothing but phone and wallet. So a teensie spare battery fits in any small pocket, while a power pack would be bigger.
- You can carry days and days of power (like 6 or 8 batteries on a camping trip) in the size of a deck of cards.
[Above are real examples for me.]

3. You can charge the batteries separately.
- Instantly have full power with no extra bulk when you need it.
- Becomes especially useful if your micro USB charging port on your phone is broken, and you don't have wireless charging.
[1st above is real example for me.]

4. Some phones offer additional features with a removable back:
- wireless charging back
- extended battery
- flip case that replaces the back.
[1st two above are real examples for me.]


Possible Drawbacks:
- may be thicker than one with a non-removable battery
- depending on the phone construction, the back might come off easily when the phone is dropped.

I think the debate is missing the bigger picture: Removeable batteries offer, literally, no benefit whatsoever to about 95% of the people who buy smartphones.

These debates always disregard the psychology of the matter. People are more likely to change the way they use the device to compromise before they'll put themselves through the trouble of removing an otterbox defender from their phone 2-3x a day to swap batteries, remembering to charge the battery and carry it everywhere; and it's not exactly something you want to keep in the glove compartment of a car in the summer in many places.

This is the way things have always been, and the complaining about phone camera quality is a good second example of it. No matter how much someone says "get a DSLR or P&S" it doesn't matter. The average person will dumb Phone X for Phone Y because of the better camera simply because they will make the concessions necessary to avoid burdening themselves with carrying extra equipment or having a more complicated use case.

Fact and the matter is, modern flagships aren't like 2010 phones that died in the middle of the day routinely. These phones barrel through days of 5+ hour screen on time moderate use without issues, consistently and reliably.

The removeable batteries are certainly something SOME users want and even NEED, but the fact that a phone with 32GB of internal storage is missing an External SD card is not going to hurt its sales all that much, and the fact that a phone has an embedded battery is not going to hurt its sales all that much.

You may think so, reading a forum like this, but this is not indicative of the real world - or even close to it. On these forums people are often digging for ways to justify a device purchase so you often see these things brought up. In a carrier store, that is *not* usually the case. Most people that I see buy phones in carrier store never even ask about this stuff. They're actually more concerned with user experience than specs, and those coming from Feature Phones tend to not even ask about battery life because they've been using dumber phones for ages and never had an issue with it...

Also Wireless charging doesn't need a removeable battery, and tends to be cheaper if the battery is embedded since the OEMs like to ship devices with a normal back and then charge you for the wireless charging cover (not the case always, but usually). Nevermind, that Qi charger isn't free.

Removeable Batteries, SD Cards, Wireless Covers, Wireless Chargers, etc. all drive the overall cost of the device up. Consumers are price sensitive and base specs tend to sell better to them than add-ons like that. The average person doesn't spend money on possibilities; they spend money on reality.
 
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I think the debate is missing the bigger picture: Removeable batteries offer, literally, no benefit whatsoever to about 95% of the people who buy smartphones.

These debates always disregard the psychology of the matter. People are more likely to change the way they use the device to compromise before they'll put themselves through the trouble of removing an otterbox defender from their phone 2-3x a day to swap batteries, remembering to charge the battery and carry it everywhere; and it's not exactly something you want to keep in the glove compartment of a car in the summer in many places.

This is the way things have always been, and the complaining about phone camera quality is a good second example of it. No matter how much someone says "get a DSLR or P&S" it doesn't matter. The average person will dumb Phone X for Phone Y because of the better camera simply because they will make the concessions necessary to avoid burdening themselves with carrying extra equipment or having a more complicated use case.

Fact and the matter is, modern flagships aren't like 2010 phones that died in the middle of the day routinely. These phones barrel through days of 5+ hour screen on time moderate use without issues, consistently and reliably.

The removeable batteries are certainly something SOME users want and even NEED, but the fact that a phone with 32GB of internal storage is missing an External SD card is not going to hurt its sales all that much, and the fact that a phone has an embedded battery is not going to hurt its sales all that much.

You may think so, reading a forum like this, but this is not indicative of the real world - or even close to it. On these forums people are often digging for ways to justify a device purchase so you often see these things brought up. In a carrier store, that is *not* usually the case. Most people that I see buy phones in carrier store never even ask about this stuff. They're actually more concerned with user experience than specs, and those coming from Feature Phones tend to not even ask about battery life because they've been using dumber phones for ages and never had an issue with it...

Also Wireless charging doesn't need a removeable battery, and tends to be cheaper if the battery is embedded since the OEMs like to ship devices with a normal back and then charge you for the wireless charging cover (not the case always, but usually). Nevermind, that Qi charger isn't free.

Removeable Batteries, SD Cards, Wireless Covers, Wireless Chargers, etc. all drive the overall cost of the device up. Consumers are price sensitive and base specs tend to sell better to them than add-ons like that. The average person doesn't spend money on possibilities; they spend money on reality.

Yep, so you offer a good-better-best option, or a good-best so the CUSTOMER can decide and price ACCORDINGLY so they are at least margin neutral. No harm to customer or seller. There is a market for that segmentation and is not a paradigm to the consumer or the industry.

Added: Customers flock to the S3 , S4 and Note and is not just due to Samsung. They do enough surveys that suggest a lot of people DO like replaceable batteries and DO like sd cards. This is per one of their own corporate regional sales reps.

Why would Samsung sells this way if not? They are not exactly a small poorly ran organization.
 
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Yep, so you over a good-better-best option, or a good-best so the CUSTOMER can decide and price ACCORDINGLY so they are at least margin neutral. No harm to customer or seller. There is a market for that segmentation and is not a paradigm to the consumer or the industry.

That costs a lot for the OEM to manufacture and market and you end up with three basically equivalent phones all cannibalizing each others sales.

It's better to have one model and just forget about the minority of purchasers who have fringe or niche needs from the device.

This is what Samsung did with their plastic phones and despite people calling them worse than a competitors they still are #Winning.

Most things tend to get overblown when talking about tech on forums or tech blogs these days.
 
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That costs a lot for the OEM to manufacture and market and you end up with three basically equivalent phones all cannibalizing each others sales.

It's better to have one model and just forget about the minority of purchasers who have fringe or niche needs from the device.

This is what Samsung did with their plastic phones and despite people calling them worse than a competitors they still are #Winning.

Most things tend to get overblown when talking about tech on forums or tech blogs these days.


And they have sd card and replaceable batteries ;)
 
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Your post is vague. You said good better best. I'm saying not every OEM wants three phones out there and not every carrier wants to carry three fairly insignificantly differing variants of the same phone.

SD and Removable battery is on the phone it isn't coming out. And I didn't say it shouldn't have it.

You're reasoning against it is flawed for those needing the convenience of removable batteries.

This may not be 2010, but fringe reception can easily eat a full charge quickly.

People used to that often prefer to swap batteries.

Your views and opinions are welcome.

Your on-going criticisms of how people think and communicate on forums is hereby at an end.

The debate, discussion, whatever, is pointless about the battery.

As you noted, it's there.

The question why was asked and answered.

Per the rules that everyone agreed to at registration, I'm closing the sidetrack on the battery. It's time to move on.

The horse is dead. Further beatings will be deleted.

Cheers, thanks! :)
 
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Hopefully the G3 includes the feature to allow choosing which apps you'd like to hide the on-screen buttons,as w/the G-FLEX.A swipe-up from the bottom of the screen brings them back into view.

How does that work for games? Some games and emulators would use that type of swipe action. Is there an option to disable this function with apps?

The setting on the G-FLEX to select which apps have the buttons hidden is listed in SETTINGS > DISPLAY > ADVANCED SETTINGS > FRONT TOUCH BUTTONS > ADVANCED SETTINGS > HIDE FRONT TOUCH BUTTONS.

It lists each app in the app drawer & you can select which are hidden & which aren't.

Little U/I touches like this are why I'm looking at getting my 4th LG device within the last 6 -7 months.
 
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When talking buttons, I despise the mechanical home button on my Note 3 and absolutely love the absence of it on my Nexus 5.

funny, I hate onscreen buttons and would love to have the capacitive buttons instead.

True. It effectively makes it the same size as the S5 (about 5.1").

Hopefully the G3 includes the feature to allow choosing which apps you'd like to hide the on-screen buttons,as w/the G-FLEX.A swipe-up from the bottom of the screen brings them back into view.

How does that work for games? Some games and emulators would use that type of swipe action. Is there an option to disable this function with apps?

Looking forward to test to see if it will be a problem.

The setting on the G-FLEX to select which apps have the buttons hidden is listed in SETTINGS > DISPLAY > ADVANCED SETTINGS > FRONT TOUCH BUTTONS > ADVANCED SETTINGS > HIDE FRONT TOUCH BUTTONS.

It lists each app in the app drawer & you can select which are hidden & which aren't.

Fast-forward to about 5:20 in the video here:

http://androidforums.com/6596198-post1918.html

Freeze @ 5:22 & you'll see the G3 does indeed have the "Hide Home Touch Buttons"feature.

SCHWEEEEEET! :rock:
 
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