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Hay if you have to carry around a custom app with database and it saves you from having to carry another device ( laptop ).... 1k could be worth it.

The dig against Moto-X here is if they had an SD, 32g would be fine for apps... with an sd the user buys what he / she thinks they need. But if you're not going to supply an SD slot, you better be able to provide the customer with what they need internal.
 
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I have a question. And maybe, just maybe it's my age showing here, but why is there such a premium placed on storage in a smart phone? I have the 32 GB original X and I have yet to fill it.

Now the old part...

I remember when there was no internal storage, everything was floppy disks and we talked in megabytes not gigabytes, much less terabytes.

Regardless, there are multiple options for additional space when a SD card is not available, cloud storage (Google drive anyone?) And yea it costs data and takes time, and streaming your own content sucks but if you are on WiFi it's a fine option. If not....how bout a Bluetooth drive? They work just fine too, there are options.

Moto X is about the experience.
 
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When i went in to att to talk to them i asked if they were even going to have the 32g in store. The answer i got was they probably would not. the reason is because it did not sell well. so.....with that said if a 32g does not sell well in the store why on earth would they try and sell a 64g at all. Do you know if the 64g orginal sold well? Sounds to me like there is very little intrest in 64g. I personally only know like 1 person that has a 64g phone and that is mostly because they refuse to pay more for cloud storage. that 64 is taken up by mostly pictures. this phone to me is more about experience as well. I like what i get from it. I like all the apps that moto has come up with to make the phone easier to use and safer. i dont have to get some second hand app to get the phone to do what i want it to do. it already does it.
 
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>>Moto X is about the experience.

Give me a #$@&ing break. I think most here are moto fans ( including me ) but the lack of thought that went into this phone is mind boggling. I mean why the heck offer 64g on the Gen 1 and not on the Gen 2. Right now for me the Moto X is an example of IQ loss.

I certainly didn't mean to offend. Look here's the thing most people don't think about. It takes up space to have a bigger battery, a bigger screen, add SD support on and on.

I don't like BIG phones. Here let me say this again, I DO NOT LIKE BIG PHONES, PHABLETS, WHAT EVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM. Maybe I am in the minority here, maybe I'm not. I tend to think at least a solid number of the buying public wants reasonably sized phones or Apple would have omitted the smaller Iphone 6 and just done the plus sized. I digress.

The original X with all it's draw backs, all it's perceived flaws, has been the single best phone I have ever owned. (And I have owned Motorolas, HTCs, Samsungs and I have been able to use an Iphone for extended periods.) If you are replacing a laptop with your phone I tend to think you are in the minority because tablets and laptops are still being made which means they speak to a large market segment. I want a PHONE first and foremost that works well as a phone (Check - Motorola makes in my opinion the best phone hardware in the business) I want internet access (check) I want to be able to use GPS and navigation (check) I want email and messaging (check) a nice camera is a plus (check again) oh and then add in the personal nature of the Moto X - ie being able to make it look and feel the way I want, it catering to my needs with always on voice commands, driving options, screen notifications. And then Moto is able to wrap all that up in a package that's pocketable and comfortable in the hand, oh and you can operate it with one hand. Crazy I know, just such silly things for the lion share of phone users to enjoy.

The only reason I am waiting to see the Nexus X is because Motorola is rumored to be the manufacturer. Otherwise I'd on this phone like a duck on a June bug. :D

I am just confused by the fact that most threads started on here are negative. If you've paid attention over the past 18 months this is what Motorola does, they make phones for the "everyman" not the power user, not the laptop replacer.

Sorry if I messed with your rhubarb.
 
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Every phone is a compromise. There is no single phone that is perfect for everyone.

I'm on Verizon. I had a Verizon-only option.

When I looked at the original Moto-X two things were a detraction. The back was not flat. The screen was a little small for my taste.

I went with the Droid Maxx ... identical hardware ... larger screen ... longest lasting battery in the world ... wireless charging ... 32GB.

Many people find the size and weight of the Droid Maxx to be major detractions.

My recommendation ... thinking of buying any phone ... go to the carrier and handle it ... when you pick it up you will know in 10 seconds if it is right for you ... if you don't ... don't buy it.

External SD slots in in the past were a problem ... extra opening ... mechanical failure ... required you insert card a specific way ... water penetration. That's why they were phased out.

... Thom
 
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Ok, let me try to explain a little better why I was disappointed with the lack of larger internal mem options.

The original moto-x was not designed to be in the "flagship" product class... the gen 2 is... so now it's in the league where it is competing with the other flagships.

I'm sure the 64g option on the Gen 1 didn't sell well for a few reasons... late to the game, not in the store and also not on a "flagship" phone.

The people that will dish out the bucks for 64g also want flagship performance.

I'm not replacing a laptop ( my alienware with a 1TB SSD drive does just fine thank you.) But I am someone who carries a lot of custom apps ( not pictures, not vids )... when you develop software, sometimes you carry many versions of the product you're creating....but to tell you the truth... that's not really my main point.

The main reason I wanted a 64g option was so that the phone would be able to compete in the flagship class and be a success... If Moto doesn't compete well with this, I doubt you'll see many more "flagship" class phones out of them cause the new parent is into numbers... not quality.

IMO, Moto went halfway on this phone and it would have taken no effort to go all the way.
 
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As a long time thinpad owner, Moto phone user and ex stockholder ( I don't have any lenovo stock )... Let me give you a clue. Products get improved by people's "whine". There's a lot of power in sales... if people get what they want, they buy... if they don't, then they don't buy. All I'm trying to add here are some hints for their success.

I personally know at least 5 people who would have jumped with either an SD slot or 64g That's 6 sales they didn't get. Maybe next time. In the meantime, I'll suffer with the Atrix cauase there isn't a perfect phone out there.
 
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I have to agree with some folks here. The Moto X is designed for a particular market. I do believe its the everyday person. Power users have other options. If the Moto X doesn't fit your need, then you move onto a different device that does meet your needs. I highly doubt Motorola decided on this phone on half a thought. Their philosophy has been to make a phone that works - not to make a phone that replaces your laptop, etc.

This phone IS about the experience. If it wasn't, and it didn't have SD or higher storage options, would you even be wasting time to whine about it? I doubt it. I find it rude that you dismissed the "experience" comments of others with all those $%&-#! when the experience is what draws you to it. If it was about specs you'd be looking elsewhere, everyone here knows that the specs aren't the very best - but that's not why we're here, is it?
 
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Gee zetroc, If what you say is true, does that mean the Moto-X gen one was meant for power users ( since it has a 64gig option ) and the Gen 2 with larger and better screen, better camera, better CPU isn't meant for the same audience?

I have problems with people that check their IQ at the door. Why would moto move forward with everything but the internal memory and that moves backwords. Just answer that for me will you?

I'll give you one possibility.... they want to dump the 16/32 units first before coming out with a 64g option... just like they did with Gen one. ( and they wonder why they're not selling more )
 
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It is probably more like what I stated before. It did not sell well therefore they are not brining it back again. That has nothing to do with leaving ones IQ at the door. To me that shows they are using their brains and knowing what will sell their phone. With companies like this 6 sells is noting to them. That will not make a break the company because you and your 5 friends want a 64g phone. You seem to be in the minority on this page about it. Maybe if everyone one here said they wanted 64g and people on other forums said the same thing then maybe they would listen, but since you have been the only person on any forum i have seen complaining about it i doubt they are going to listen to just one person.
 
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Very true on that... it's just a shame they improved everything else on the phone and went backwards on the storage capability. In two respects, the Gen one is a better package. One hand usability and the internal storage.

If you look at the changes they made, they definitely were aiming at a higher level audience... just read any review out there if you don't believe me... and the higher audience is going to be turned off by a lack of SD and or 64g internal ( whether they need it or not ).

Power users are going to compare features and specs.... that's just the way it is.
 
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I never meant to start a (*******) match.

Look, I love America for a lot of reasons, one of them is we get our own opinion. The trouble with that is opinions are like toilets, we all got one and sometimes it's full of (****). :D

I digress.

As more leaks appear about the Nexus X (or Moto S?) it's looking like a 5.9 inch screen, WAY WAY WAY too big for me) so I will be ordering a new Moto X in November for a birthday gift to myself.

It is 100% hands down (get it hands down cause you can use it 100% hands free ;) ) about the experience for me. I really love my current X and honestly if I was not a tech geek that likes to have new and shiny goodies regularly, well I might keep this phone till it simply wouldn't work anymore or I broke it or something like that. I mean seriously, I like tech, but I have never been emotionally connected to a cell phone before and I really love my X. The form factor is delightful, the functionality is superb, the thoughtfulness with which this phone was conceived and executed is kind of amazing in this day an age where it's easy to believe corporate America is not listening, doesn't care and at times even seems to purposefully try to make consumers uncomfortable. Perhaps it's my emotional connection (and others it seems) that makes me take exception with comments about Motorola not thinking or being foolish or planning poorly, when in reality, they are thinking, planning and making phones for us, and not YOU.

So all that said, nothing personal, I get what you're saying, we've all been there. You want something, wish it was a certain way and it's not and you're disappointed. We apologize for that. But we are going to keep dancing around gleefully with the prospect of a wonderful, thoughtful, well designed device that we all want. :party:
 
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Not sure if you're talking to me...but if you are, you're way off base. I have HAD moto phones for the last 10 years.... my wife still carries my old razr <g>. I'm here trying to help the cause, not complain about it.

It will be interesting to see what you think of the Gen 2 with the larger size. I think in some respects the Gen one was a much better package and I think your comments prove that.
 
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I don't see what's wrong with expressing dissatisfaction over the storage options of the Moto X. I still plan on getting the phone, but no doubt the storage limitations make the decision feel like more of a compromise than it would have. Maybe not for everyone, but being limited to 32gb absolutely effects the overall experience; on top of knowing I'll have to actively switch out apps and media, flash storage just plain works faster and smoother when it has a decent portion of free space. If you pay attention to comment sections of reviews, you'll see the storage is in fact a very common complaint.

The group it affects may not be the majority market, but they're often the most enthusiastic about their devices and can be an effective element of grassroots marketing. Considering Moto Maker phones aren't being assembled until after the orders are placed, its hard not to see the lack of an option as a mistake.
 
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As more leaks appear about the Nexus X (or Moto S?) it's looking like a 5.9 inch screen, WAY WAY WAY too big for me) so I will be ordering a new Moto X in November for a birthday gift to myself.

By that time there will hopefully be more info on the Droid Turbo so you might still need to make a decision. According to leaks it will have a 4.6" quad-HD display, Snapdragon 805 processor, 3GB RAM, 32GB storage (probably no SD card slot), and 20 MP rear camera.
 
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I don't see what's wrong with expressing dissatisfaction over the storage options of the Moto X. I still plan on getting the phone, but no doubt the storage limitations make the decision feel like more of a compromise than it would have. Maybe not for everyone, but being limited to 32gb absolutely effects the overall experience; on top of knowing I'll have to actively switch out apps and media, flash storage just plain works faster and smoother when it has a decent portion of free space. If you pay attention to comment sections of reviews, you'll see the storage is in fact a very common complaint.


The group it affects may not be the majority market, but they're often the most enthusiastic about their devices and can be an effective element of grassroots marketing. Considering Moto Maker phones aren't being assembled until after the orders are placed, its hard not to see the lack of an option as a mistake.


Nothing is wrong with it at all. As I said it's the strength of America, we all get our say, both sides, all sides, not just you are right, not just me, not anyone. We're all right for expressing how we feel and how we want it. That's what's awesome. What else is awesome is that Motorola is making phones worthy of spirited discussion. :D

apjans,

Thanks for your comments.... it's good to know there's at least some sanity around here <g>.

Sanity abounds dude. :D

By that time there will hopefully be more info on the Droid Turbo so you might still need to make a decision. According to leaks it will have a 4.6" quad-HD display, Snapdragon 805 processor, 3GB RAM, 32GB storage (probably no SD card slot), and 20 MP rear camera.

I am stuck on the death star, no big red for me, so no droids, they aren't the ones I'm looking for anyway. :D

I'm a tad bit worried about the 5.2 inch screen size too, in fact I am going to the ATT Corporate store near my place of business on lunch as they now have them in stock so I can check it out in person. (As I did with the original X prior to purchase.)

Oh yea, they are in stores today if anyone else wants to go see them in person.
 
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Thanks for the tip... I'll go look at one. I also worry about the 5.2 will be interested in what you think.

I hope they don't feel as bad as the S5s... if I wanted a phone that takes two hands to use, I'd just use the laptop and skype <g>.

I think the perfect X would have been a screen around 4.6 to 4.8 with the guts the gen2s have and 64 and 128g options. Man that would have been a killer.
 
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upside on the att web site you can do the find in store option and it will tell you who has them so you dont have to go all over the place looking. of course the store closest to my house does not have it, but the next one does. now i just have to get off work so i can go see. has anyone gone yet? and if so do they have a 32 in the store to sell like they did the gen 1? if so i am walking out with that bad boy today.
 
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