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Any note 4 buyers now tempted by the 6 plus

I just want a large phone with a good camera. I spent a lot of time considering the iPhone 6+ mainly for the camera, though I do not want to give up Android. I'm really, really hoping the Note4 has a good camera. Not just the specs, but in actual usage. My Note3 is horrific with anything but perfect lighting. I don't care if it shoots 4K, it means nothing if 90% of the time my footage is grainy, blurry, soft, and lacks detail. I just can not have another phone with a camera like that....
 
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It's an absolute NO for me. Had the iphone 3g, 4, 4s, Note2, 5s, Note3, and 5s again due to problems with the Note 3. I absolutely hate the look of the iPhone 6. I saw the Note 4 yesterday at BestBuy and loved it so much that I went in for a second time to look at it again. I actually find the iPhone 5/5s to be a perfectly attractive phone, it the Note 4 has some of the same details that attracts me to it as the iPhone 5/5s. With that said, the 6+ has nothing much over the regular iphone to sucker me into buying it, let alone over the Note 4! Also, if you're going to have a protruding camera on the phone, at least center it! I hate how it tilts to one side like that. Can't wait for the N4 to come out...
 
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I agree. The n3 camera was pants. Note 2 was better IMHO at taking sharper pics without any hassle . It's the only aspect of the one plus one I currently have tat I don't like.
Camera is fine. S4 shows that. It performs better in low light with dame sensor and lens. Software on the Note 3 is noticeably worse than what is on the S4 especially for low light. It takes longer to process the images... with a beefier processor when used side by side taking pictures of the same scene at the same resolution (I tested with about 20+ captures) and the pictures always have worse color, more noise, and are blurring than the S4.

So no matter how great the hardware is I thoroughly expect Samsung to muck up the sofrware, as always.

Best to wait for reviews and in store units to see how they really compare. You can always send beam to your phone from a store unit to compare at home to the S5, Note 3, and other phones.
 
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The low-light capability of my N3 camera is my only real gripe with it. I have used my phone cameras as my main cameras for years with no problem. Was in Europe a little over two years ago and the Droid Razr I used then took excellent pictures. I have them on this laptop and when I look at them they look fine. We brought an $800 Nikon with us on that trip too, and really for most uses, the pics from the Nikon aren't that much better where it really matters.

I took thousands of pics with my Note 2 the year I used that - pics were excellent. I have taken thousands of pictures with my Note3 over the last year - pictures are fine. Went to Maui this year and the pics I took with the Note 3 are very good quality. Like I said, my only real complaint was low light is not the greatest quality. That is the one area I hope the N4 really improves upon. I expect the N4 camera to be a good upgrade to the N3 - from preliminary reports it is a very good upgrade. We will know more once the phone is in peoples hands and real world use and examples are shown. In any case, I expect the camera to be one of the best offerings on a smartphone. The Xperia Z3, Lumina and new iphones may be slightly better, but not enough to matter to me.
 
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The low-light capability of my N3 camera is my only real gripe with it. I have used my phone cameras as my main cameras for years with no problem. Was in Europe a little over two years ago and the Droid Razr I used then took excellent pictures. I have them on this laptop and when I look at them they look fine. We brought an $800 Nikon with us on that trip too, and really for most uses, the pics from the Nikon aren't that much better where it really matters.

I took thousands of pics with my Note 2 the year I used that - pics were excellent. I have taken thousands of pictures with my Note3 over the last year - pictures are fine. Went to Maui this year and the pics I took with the Note 3 are very good quality. Like I said, my only real complaint was low light is not the greatest quality. That is the one area I hope the N4 really improves upon. I expect the N4 camera to be a good upgrade to the N3 - from preliminary reports it is a very good upgrade. We will know more once the phone is in peoples hands and real world use and examples are shown. In any case, I expect the camera to be one of the best offerings on a smartphone. The Xperia Z3, Lumina and new iphones may be slightly better, but not enough to matter to me.

To be frank, the day light pictures I took with my Galaxy S3 were better than my Note 3, and this phone is only better in low light in that it has a bit better light sensitivity. The S3 was Sharper in Low Light Mode than the N3 is in Smart Stabilization.

The camera was the most surprising "downgrade" on this phone, but it's still more than serviceable in daylight, and it's still baller for video - which is mostly what I do with my phone, anyways.

I'm likely going to wait another month to see what reviews say about the Note 4 before making a purchase, because I don't really "need" a new phone right now. However, I'm leaning towards the iPhone 6+ largely because of the software and the camera experience. Samsung didn't really innovate on that software end much, and really it's way overdue for them to give their customers some of the same conveniences that Apple gives theirs in their software.

I also don't like that it's launching with Android 4.4.4 and I don't think Google will do much for Camera API surface in Android L. On iOS, developers like Ubersense and Coach's Eye are going to be supporting 240 fps recording in their analysis apps (if they aren't already). These apps are doing 30 or less at times on beastly Android flagships (like the Note 3) and downscaling video to 480p becuase the developers don't really have the APIs needed to bring it to feature parity with their iOS versions. I really need something a bit higher quality, now.

It's hard to scrub complicated meneuvers that happen in half a second when you don't have enough frames in the video, and it's hard to see what's happening from far off if the video is getting downscaled to 480 to display on a 1080p resolution display (it kills the sharpness of the video).

If the Note 3 allows recording 1x 720p video @ 120 FPS, then that would fix that issue, but currently they are requiring you to "pre-select" a slowed speed which defeats the purpose of having a 120 FPS video capture (never mind the extra work you have to do if you want to share it at 1x speed, none of Samsung's built-in software currently allows you to adjust the speed of Slow Motion Recordings, unless I missed something). It's a complete productivity killer when you pay a coach for training and you're wasting valuable minutes doing something that should not have to be done on the device.

Google.... Implement some standard Camera Video APIs, please!
 
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All I know is that I played around with the N4's camera at BestBuy, and it was very quick to take clear pictures. The image stabilizing feature was also VERY noticeable when aiming the phone and moving it around. I took plenty of photos and videos, and they all looked great. I know I was disappointed with the N3's camera when upgrading from the N2, but I think I will be very happy with the N4's camera.

Oh yeah...just ordered mine last night:)
 
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All I know is that I played around with the N4's camera at BestBuy, and it was very quick to take clear pictures. The image stabilizing feature was also VERY noticeable when aiming the phone and moving it around. I took plenty of photos and videos, and they all looked great. I know I was disappointed with the N3's camera when upgrading from the N2, but I think I will be very happy with the N4's camera.

Oh yeah...just ordered mine last night:)
 
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Did you see the gap issue which has been reported?

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oops, just seen that you addressed this query in another post. Thank you.

That is ok :) Did not notice a credit card edge- wide gap, or any really. Seemed a tight design for the time I looked at it. Maybe a hair wide? Not a defined gap by any stretch.

Maybe they have not had time for the "parts to move" like Samsung said ;)
 
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After having been an Android user for over 7 years from Motorola, to HTC, to Samsung Galaxy and Note devices, I was contemplating picking up a Note 4 when it was released. I have been irritated by the poor customer support of Samsung, buggy/laggy/glitchy Android OS, updates by Google messing up the phones further and horrible battery life no matter how I managed it.

I decided to give Apple a try for the first time and picked up a 64GB silver iPhone 6 from Verizon. The OS is so much better and efficient. Hardware is outstanding and feels like quality. Everything is much clearer and louder than on any Android device i've had. And battery life is impressive. I took my phone off the charger this morning around 6:30 am, used it for about 20 minutes or so. It is now past 9:30 and this is my battery usage so far on LTE (and sync and location services are turned on!). Just did a screenshot:



 
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I have a Galaxy Note 3 and I get absolutely incredible battery life out of it. Never found it laggy or glitchy.

One problem with the comparison is that Apple has one high end phone while Android has tons of phones - low end, mid, and high.

So you have to compare the best Android to an iphone imo to be fair.

From my experience, the Galaxy Nexus was a disaster but the Galaxy Note 3 is absolutely incredible. So ya, there are some bad Androids out there.. you have to pick the right one.
 
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I also think this thread should be moved. Probably into the Device/Carrier Comparisons sub-thread. Has nothing to do with the Note 4 and just a praise for the IP6.

Nothing wrong with that, just stick it into the proper forum it should belong to... ;)

Sounds like the OP found their perfect phone, which is great. But not everyone will share the same view.

I, personally, want to try Windows Phone. Heard good things about it (both pros and cons). But there's not a huge selection here in Canada.
 
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