What I like least about my Note 4 is . . .

Old Member · Dec 4, 2014

Palmetto Fellow said:
I think it's because engineers tend to think they are the BOMB and whatever they feel should be adopted by all. What they fail to realize is that people like to have options, and don't like to be told what to do. In the end, they don't really care what we think as long as we like the product enough to buy it. For them, it's not about taking pride in the fact that they made the best phone they could make...but that they made a phone that sells well. Unfortunate really.

Wireless charging (or lack thereof) is one of my biggest gripes. Since it's not standard, the add-on makes cases not fit. Samsung should have made the Note 4 come standard with wireless charging, but they wanted to cut that corner. Now, it's a fragmented solution which causes all sorts of problems when implemented. I truly hate them for this, but I'll still buy the phone. I feel in another generation or two, they will have to include wireless charging stock, as they will start to see lost sales when all the other phones are doing it. People will start asking "why" this isn't a standard feature.

I have the wireless charging back and a case with no problems. This is the case and this is the back. Wireless charging works beautifully even with the case. I agree that Samsung SHOULD have included it out of the box, however we could be like iPhone users and not even have the option.

Palmetto Fellow · Dec 4, 2014

Cincybearcatfan said:
I have the wireless charging back and a case with no problems. This is the case and this is the back. Wireless charging works beautifully even with the case. I agree that Samsung SHOULD have included it out of the box, however we could be like iPhone users and not even have the option.

How does that work? Are the buttons lined up perfectly? Does that case fit loosely without the charging cover, and tightly with it? I bought a white phone, and would really like to keep my case white as well. I'll probably grab the charging back soon, and maybe buy a case that I can modify with a dremmel to give a little extra room. I'm pretty sure my Speck case won't fit right.

Bearcats · Dec 4, 2014

Its still surprised me that such a flagship touted phone does not have wireless charging. I saw a review of the Edge and it showed a Wireless charging battery. So they give you the battery NFC charge ability and then shortcut the cast (transfer mechanism)?

Old Member · Dec 4, 2014

Palmetto Fellow said:
How does that work? Are the buttons lined up perfectly? Does that case fit loosely without the charging cover, and tightly with it? I bought a white phone, and would really like to keep my case white as well. I'll probably grab the charging back soon, and maybe buy a case that I can modify with a dremmel to give a little extra room. I'm pretty sure my Speck case won't fit right.

Yes, everything lines up perfectly. It fits pretty snugly. I haven't tried it without the charging cover. I'm not sure if there is a white one or not, but I don't remember seeing one. The colors that I remember are pink, mint, black and grey. I think there are other colors though.

You shouldn't need to modify anything to get this case to work and fit perfectly with the wireless charging back.

I really like the grip on the sides and back of the case too. I'll attach photos later tonight.

Bearcats · Dec 4, 2014

I just looked up the specs on that cover...certainly its not an inch tall....??

Product Dimensions: 6 x 3.5 x 1 inches

Palmetto Fellow · Dec 4, 2014

Bearcats said:
I just looked up the specs on that cover...certainly its not an inch tall....??

Product Dimensions: 6 x 3.5 x 1 inches

Maybe the product box...certainly not the cover. My Note 4 in a case is like 3.25" wide, so there's no way the cover is 3.5" wide. I may order one anyway as I really want wireless charging. I'm just not sure I can use it until I come up with a case solution I'm happy with.

Cincybearcatfan said:
Yes, everything lines up perfectly. It fits pretty snugly. I haven't tried it without the charging cover. I'm not sure if there is a white one or not, but I don't remember seeing one. The colors that I remember are pink, mint, black and grey. I think there are other colors though.

You shouldn't need to modify anything to get this case to work and fit perfectly with the wireless charging back.

I really like the grip on the sides and back of the case too. I'll attach photos later tonight.

Do you by chance have calipers? Can you give us a thickness reading with the standard and QI covers so we can determine how much deeper it is? I'm talking overall thickness (screen to back cover), not just the thickness of the cover. We can subtract to determine the exact thickness difference. The concavity may make it difficult to accurately measure the thickness of the covers.

Old Member · Dec 4, 2014

Palmetto Fellow said:
Maybe the product box...certainly not the cover. My Note 4 in a case is like 3.25" wide, so there's no way the cover is 3.5" wide. I may order one anyway as I really want wireless charging. I'm just not sure I can use it until I come up with a case solution I'm happy with.

Do you by chance have calipers? Can you give us a thickness reading with the standard and QI covers so we can determine how much deeper it is? I'm talking overall thickness (screen to back cover), not just the thickness of the cover. We can subtract to determine the exact thickness difference. The concavity may make it difficult to accurately measure the thickness of the covers.

I don't have calipers. Sorry.

KOLIO · Dec 4, 2014

[QUOTE="Palmetto Fellow, post: 6810148, member: 270966"
Do you by chance have calipers? Can you give us a thickness reading with the standard and QI covers so we can determine how much deeper it is? I'm talking overall thickness (screen to back cover), not just the thickness of the cover. We can subtract to determine the exact thickness difference. The concavity may make it difficult to accurately measure the thickness of the covers.[/QUOTE]

It (The OEM QI Charging Battery Cover) is .060" wider than the non-charging back.

Old Member · Dec 4, 2014

mikedt · Dec 5, 2014

AnonGuy said:
Yea, when I went into the Verizon store expecting to get it. It took about 30 seconds before passing on it after I seen how loaded it was. I was flabbergasted. It has like 3.5 ecosystems preloaded on it, and like 2-3 apps that perform the same functions in about 7-10 app categories... I can only imagine how confusing this can be for a new user who gets their devices.

That's terrible, can see why new users might want to look at an iPhone, there's only one ecosystem to deal with. Samsungs here only have one ecosystem, Samsung, mainly because there's no Google, and carriers don't bloat them out, because what they supply are unsubsidised and unlocked. Pay full prices, no contract commitment.

Canesfan · Dec 5, 2014

AnonGuy said:
Yea, when I went into the Verizon store ex.......... It took about 30 seconds before passing on it after I seen how loaded it was.........

Should be....."passing on it after I SAW how loaded it was...."

(Offered as a friendly correction, no offense intended.

rushmore · Dec 5, 2014

Cincybearcatfan said:
The good news is you can buy up to 128GB of expanded memory for it because of the sd card slot.

Can't put apps on SD and Lollipop will take 20% more of the internal storage we have now.

rushmore · Dec 5, 2014

Not getting the bloat concerns since most can be disabled and only takes up about 150mb of storage. Lollipop will take away a LOT more than that for everyone.

If we could not disable the stuff, then I would get it.

jaj324 · Dec 5, 2014

rushmore said:
Not getting the bloat concerns since most can be disabled and only takes up about 150mb of storage. Lollipop will take away a LOT more than that for everyone.

If we could not disable the stuff, then I would get it.

Many cannot be disabled. The newest one, Evernote, being one of them. Quick Connect, Knox, Music, Scrapbook....

jaj324 · Dec 5, 2014

And the stock browser!! There was a time when you could disable the stock browser and just use Chrome. Not anymore.

Old Member · Dec 5, 2014

rushmore said:
Can't put apps on SD and Lollipop will take 20% more of the internal storage we have now.

I can put apps on my SD.

TrueFangz · Dec 5, 2014

Palmetto Fellow said:
You could if it was rooted.

I never have this problem, and like that I have two ways to turn the screen on. I'd rather not wear out a single button by turning the screen on 50+ times a day. I like load balancing

Also, if you lock the screen, the phone will be on for what...10 seconds?

I knew this was coming

I never have rooted, and since my phone is a company phone, it's IT's policy that we aren't allowed to root.

Anyhow, I've noticed, that when this happens, sometimes I'm guessing the pull down notification bar is vulnerable and being triggered by me walking or something because there are times when I'll pull my phone out of my pocket, and a bunch of stuff has occured while the phone was in my pocket. an email has been composed with a bunch of crazyness, though luckily nothing ever got sent. Another time many device settings got changed, such as my time zone, and a few of the quick settings got toggled. Luckily I've never pocket dialed anyone!

The only way I can get around this is if I switch from basic swipe to unlock to using a pin or pattern, but then I can't unlock my phone as quickly as a swipe :thinking:

Yeah, I know. I have issues LOL

AnonGuy · Dec 6, 2014

Cincybearcatfan said:
I can put apps on my SD.

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The issue isn't if things can be moved to the SD Card.

It's HOW MUCH data you can actually recover by moving them. In many cases, not much.

Especially for apps that have huge data packs that cannot be moved to the SD Card, or build up large caches on the internal storage.

AnonGuy · Dec 6, 2014

rushmore said:
Not getting the bloat concerns since most can be disabled and only takes up about 150mb of storage. Lollipop will take away a LOT more than that for everyone.

If we could not disable the stuff, then I would get it.

Enough of it cannot be disabled.
You're getting app sizes from App Info on disabled app, which is totally inaccurate and shouldn't be used as a reference.
Apply any MINOR update to any of those preloads and the device will then give you the true app size.

S Health is a 40MB+ install.

Amazon Kindle is like a 30MB install.

Amazon's Flagship app is like a 30MB install.

Verizon Messages+ is like a 70MB+ install.

There is a ton of preloads on this phone. If you seriously think it only takes up 150 MB of storage than either you find most of it useful, or you're using a totally incorrect reference (like App Info on disabled Preloads) to derive at that number.

And that's not even counting the amount of extra code in the phone to tie services into various stock apps, etc.
There is too much stuff on the device that doesn't need to be there.

It's not an issue that is new to Samsung (Galaxy S4 anyone?) and it's not an issue that Samsung (or Verizon, for that matter) isn't totally aware of. They just. don't. care.

Disabling dozens of app should not be a prerequisite to a decent user experience on a smartphone... Some of these apps run background services have an impact on device performance and battery endurance. It's not an issue I can personally ignore.

And I have another Android phone, so I didn't feel some overwhelming compelling reason to settle for that stuff.

Palmetto Fellow · Dec 6, 2014

AnonGuy said:
Disabling dozens of app should not be a prerequisite to a decent user experience on a smartphone...

One's definition of "decent" may differ from another's. If a lack of bloat is a requirement for you to have a "decent experience", get a rootable phone, or iPhone. Or try another carrier who bloats less.

It's probably easier to redefine your personal definition of "decent experience" than it is to convince them to change the devices.

jaj324 · Dec 6, 2014

I have an idea for the carriers and Samsung. If you want people to use your apps make them awesome. Then you want have to force them on anyone. They're doing it wrong.

G2Smooth · Dec 10, 2014

The default messenger app doesn't play any alert tone after its opened forcing you to constantly look at the screen to see if your text partner has replied.

G2Smooth · Dec 10, 2014

That I frequently open an app when I intended to hit the return key

Unforgiven · Dec 12, 2014

Thread cleaned. If your likes and desires don't line up with another members, that does not make them wrong.

I know it's new forum software, but the report button still works.

ilovethebeach · Dec 12, 2014

App drawer, no googlemarks, no way to diable the health app, it asks me every 2 hrs to walk a walk. I do, but without my phone, no 3x3 contact widget. I amsure there are a few more

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