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What if iphones stayed small screen??

EXACTLY, but I feel as if my posts were not on topic, even uncalled for, and should be removed to keep the thread going as it should, this thread should not be turning into arguments, but instead talking about the original topic in a civilized and orderly manner.
That's very generous of you, and I thank you.

Maybe I will. Drop me a line if insist after reading the rest of this.

Please be aware that unlike our other forums, this is the Lounge, where you put up your feet, kick your heels, let your hair down, and talk about anything you want.

This is the Lounge where anything can happen and often does.

Here's an excellent example of our uncanny ability to stay on topic here, common when iAnything comes up -

http://androidforums.com/threads/android-ios.897984/

The best part, hope you enjoy it, was when we got into the philosophies involved. OK, best until Lordvincent90 dropped his dog on us.

PS - I didn't delete Dan's post where he accused some guy (no idea who) of being drunk - hardly civilized lol.
 
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Yes, but now they are so much more than just a tool, they can serve many more, less important, functions now, this thing is my connection to the rest of the world, my gps, my handheld game system, my pocketable tv, my assistant, my camera, my flashlight, and so much more, ......

I get that, and don't feel any differently. But the point on value is the same. I can compare all of that functionality across major cell phone OS's and manufacturers. I've used them all. I've not found one that is so much better that I would pay a lot more for it.

To borrow a line from the automotive industry from years ago, Perception = Reality
 
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I get that, and don't feel any differently. But the point on value is the same. I can compare all of that functionality across major cell phone OS's and manufacturers. I've used them all. I've not found one that is so much better that I would pay a lot more for it.

To borrow a line from the automotive industry from years ago, Perception = Reality

I completely agree, but the great thing about android is diversity, if you want something a certain way, you can, whereas iPhone is one size fits all, which, for a man of my size, often doesn't fit me.

For me, I need:

≈5.0" or more (chubby fingers and small screens don't mix).

Removable battery so I can swap them out and get to a full charge in under 60 seconds.

Expandable storage so all my stuff stays with me when I switch phones.

Physical buttons

<= 8mp camera with a flash

And most importantly root, twrp, and maybe a few ROMs

Luckily for me, quite a few android devices meet those minimum requirements.
 
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Indeed,

What values do you find essential in your guyses phones? You've heard mine.
Call quality.

Sound quality.

Battery life.

^ Essential

Everything else is nice but no matter how superior other features are compared between devices, for me those three factors are essential in a phone.

Highly preferred -

Big but not too big screen.

Good camera.

Sufficient storage.

Good multitasking.

Good apps out of the box so I don't have to run off and fart around making sure I have everything this time.

Goes without saying -

Unlock-able bootloader because it's my phone.
 
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Indeed,

What values do you find essential in your guyses phones? You've heard mine.

Good call quality and signal.

Good build quality and robustness.

Good battery life for when travelling.

Nice camera.

Removable expandable storage.

Rootable without voiding warranty, so I just have the stuff I want.

Size, 5.5in seems to be a good for my uses. Don't need anything bigger.

Value for money.
 
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If I may put my 2¢ in...

When I was struggling with Boost Mobile and Sprint by extension, due to their utter failure to provide anything resembling adequate service as of last year, I was on the warpath with them, but also keeping an eye out for what to get for an unlocked phone. It was around this time that one of my circle of friends was then offering me their iPhone 5, on account that once they get on with a new provider, it would have no usability for them anymore, and they were quite satisfied with the iOS experience. At least from everything I'd read and understood, even though it started as a Sprint iPhone 5, there was nothing technically stopping it from being properly unlocked, and usable with my new carrier (T-Mobile).

Though I couldn't wait anymore, and got myself a(n international) Galaxy Note 3, I did receive the iPhone 5 not much later. It already came with iOS 8.1 on it.

Before this, I never really had any hands-on experience with an iOS or Apple device outside of either the Apple Store demo products, and at computer labs in school. I never had anything objectively against iOS in particular. I just knew that I would feel a lot better about a phone that let me have a larger battery installed... ergo, I would have likely given the iPhone a try sooner if it were possible to replace the tiny original battery with an extended battery, even if it made the phone thicker.

Fast-forward, the iPhone is still SIM-locked to Sprint, and they're being jack-asses and refusing to unlock it, even after numerous FCC and BBB complaints on the matter. The phone is bought and paid for in full; and my account with Sprint had gone on in good standing for four consecutive years. As such, there is no legal nor technical reason they can't unlock it either. They apparently would rather face federal charges than do so, however.

Even so though, having it in hands and getting to use it for more than minutes at a time, it has actually provided a positive first impression for me. Even with what should be very modest specs for the price, the iOS environment simply performs extremely fluidly at all times, even when I make a point to tax it as much as I could. And though the mAh rating on the battery is tiny, it can last... so long as I'm not doing season marathons on Netflix. :rolleyes: And even without any kind of help manual or checking any online guides, I managed to figure out how to use most everything quite easily. Some things are arguably laid out more common sense than in most Android devices, I must confess. Is it better than a premium Android now? nah. But I went into the experience with it totally blind and unknowing of what it'd be like.

I can at least safely say that if I ever had to give up or upgrade from my Note 3, an iPhone is not out of the question. It's just harder to justify because of the battery and lack of ability to use Flash Player at all... but that might also be the same thing with Android Lollipop, since official i nstall ended with Android 4.0 and many of the hacks to get it working on 4.4 pretty much leave you locked to Dolphin browser from what I've currently seen. Given the talks of the increased security on Lollipop, who knows if any of that will still work. :(
 
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